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2006-10-13 10:50:32 PM
Yeah, it's a Federal offense. It happened to a grade school kid when Eisenhower was president too.
 
2006-10-13 11:10:42 PM
What a great use of tax dollars.

/common sense surrendered a looong time ago
 
2006-10-13 11:12:49 PM
From the article:

The 14-year-old freshman at Sacramento's McClatchy High School was taken out of class Wednesday and questioned for about 15 minutes by two Secret Service agents. The incident has upset her parents, who said the agents should have included them when they questioned their daughter.

Julia Wilson said the agents threatened her by saying she could be sent to juvenile hall for making the threat.

"They yelled at me a lot," she said. "They were unnecessarily mean."

Julia and her parents said the agents were justified in questioning her over her MySpace.com posting. But they said they believe agents went too far by not waiting until she was out of school and questioning her without a parent present.


Can they legally do this? "Question" and threaten a 14 year-old without parents present?
 
2006-10-13 11:16:00 PM
Bete Noire: Can they legally do this? "Question" and threaten a 14 year-old without parents present?

Since when has the government cared about legality these past six years?
 
2006-10-13 11:19:43 PM
Howie_Feltersnatch

Bete Noire: Can they legally do this? "Question" and threaten a 14 year-old without parents present?

Since when has the government cared about legality these past six years?


After reading my own comment afterward I almost posted the same reply.

Maybe one day we will return to the days where such a thing is considered an outrage rather than business-as-usual.
 
2006-10-14 12:15:02 AM
kill the poor, eat the rich
 
2006-10-14 12:56:14 AM
Too bad the US govt couldn't do as good a job monitoring nuclear bomb blasts in North Korea as they do what 14 y.o.s post on Myspace.
 
2006-10-14 01:00:10 AM
kidakita: Yeah, it's a Federal offense. It happened to a grade school kid when Eisenhower was president too.

REMEMBER THE U.S.S. MYSPACE!
 
2006-10-14 01:06:30 AM
Julia Wilson said the agents threatened her by saying she could be sent to juvenile hall for making the threat.

dear god....what have we come to?
 
2006-10-14 01:09:09 AM
No matter how much you don't like the guy (and I REALLY don't), it's just not smart to go around calling for the president's death. Sounds like the poor kid wasn't aware it's a federal offense, but I'm sure she knows now.
 
2006-10-14 01:12:38 AM
Tabatha Static: Too bad the US govt couldn't do as good a job monitoring nuclear bomb blasts in North Korea as they do what 14 y.o.s post on Myspace.

Or catching that Osama guy... Weren't we going after him at one point? I thought I heard Dubya say, "Dead or alive." Then next thing you know we're being told the most dangerous guy on the planet is Saddam Hussein.
 
2006-10-14 01:13:25 AM
George W. Bush has so many myspace pages. (Go and check.) How does he ever get any work done?
 
2006-10-14 01:17:30 AM
Stereolab: George W. Bush has so many myspace pages. (Go and check.) How does he ever get any work done?

Work? Done?
 
2006-10-14 01:18:05 AM
Bete Noire: Can they legally do this? "Question" and threaten a 14 year-old without parents present?

not according to Law & Order. But what do they know?
 
2006-10-14 01:20:50 AM
When are we going to hear about the secret service questioning people in regards to death threats against ordinary citizens?

This is the country where "all men are created equal", right? Why does one guy get his own private police force?
 
2006-10-14 01:21:24 AM
I don't know - with all the school shootings going on I'd be concerned about a 14 year old making threats.
 
2006-10-14 02:18:35 AM
Epsilon: Sounds like the poor kid wasn't aware it's a federal offense, but I'm sure she knows now.

Let's call it Darwin. Fark sake, I remember getting up at 2:00am for a 9:00am Bush press juncket at Hood. They marched 22,000 troops down to see him make a 15 minute speech. The funniest party was we all waved to the Sniper Detail for the Secret Service... LOL... What we got throught the metal detectors. Thank God!! I needed a smoke or 20.
 
2006-10-14 02:32:25 AM
vgss: "This is the country where "all men are created equal", right? Why does one guy get his own private police force?"

Dunno, perhaps it's because the Secret Service takes remarks about the death of a sitting president - regardless of party - VERY seriously. This has been the law for decades and is nothing new.

Sure, everyone is created equal, but it makes sense to protect the POTUS and investigate any and all possible threats or statements which could be construed as such. To do so otherwise would be the height of ignorance.
 
2006-10-14 02:43:17 AM
Anyone else notice that once the mom finds out the SS wants to talk to her daughter due to what she posted about the President, she then text messages her with the same words that will get you flagged?

Apple, tree...not far.
 
2006-10-14 02:45:02 AM

From the article:

Her mother, Kirstie Wilson, said two agents showed up at the family's home in the city's upscale Land Park neighborhood Wednesday afternoon, questioned her and promised to return once her daughter was home from school.

IOW, the agents lied to the mother. On top of that, they interrogated a minor without her parents' presence. Nice to know they are now above the law and that the school administration doesn't have the balls to call them on it.

While what the kid did was incredibly stupid, this is just a huge over-reaction and greatly troubling.

 
2006-10-14 02:52:21 AM
Aulus

While I agree to much of that, reread the article. Who is to say they wouldn't just wait until she returned. Odds are they were monitoring her cell phone.
Her mother should have just said "come straight home from school, I need you here. Not emergency" or something. But based on the text she said she sent, they would have been chewed out no doubt if the girl was tipped off and bolted as soon as school let out (or before) Or hell, if I was that girl and knew the men in black were waiting for me,I wouldn't need to be planning something sinister..I would haul ass as far away from home as possible until I thought the coast was clear.

Again though, I agree with you as to the overreaction of the situation. But hindsight really is much more clear;)
 
2006-10-14 02:59:21 AM
Sweater Girl: While I agree

Damn I wish you had email in profile. Answered your question in the IRT Iraq thread.
 
2006-10-14 03:10:39 AM
vgss: Why does one guy get his own private police force?

The Secret Service does much more than act as the presidential police force.Wiki should pop

I'm surprised that the parents are just pissed that they questioned the girl behind their backs, not over the whole thing. Kudos to them for that actually.

"She obviously is not a threat to society, if you look at her age, her family background, the cartoonish nature of the MySpace page,"
Why would any of those mean she isn't "a threat to society"? (just sayin)

"Are you serious!?!? omg. Am I in a lot of trouble?" her daughter wrote back, using shorthand for "Oh, my God."
Gotta laugh at that.

Dumbass kid shoulda had her profile private anyways, at 13/14.

My question is this: if they took her outta class, where did they take her? The hall? Or an empty classroom. Cause if there were two guys *yelling* in a hall, wouldn't most teachers stick their head out and yell at them to STFU? A better question is why didn't the principal accompany them.

Aulus: While what the kid did was incredibly stupid, this is just a huge over-reaction and greatly troubling.

Or SOP...but hey, whats the diff?
 
2006-10-14 03:15:14 AM
TheXerox: Sure, everyone is created equal, but it makes sense to protect the POTUS and investigate any and all possible threats or statements which could be construed as such. To do so otherwise would be the height of ignorance.

By POTUS you mean "People of the United States", right?

Interestingly enough, we'd be hard-pressed to find anyone in government opposed to your statement with my acronym.
 
2006-10-14 03:16:45 AM
Julia and her parents said the agents were justified in questioning her over her MySpace.com posting

Come on submitter. Even this 14 year old thinks your latest Outrage O' the Day is misplaced.
 
2006-10-14 03:17:39 AM
www.laobserved.com

"Are you serious!?!? omg. Am I in a lot of trouble?" her daughter wrote back, using shorthand for "Oh, my God."
 
2006-10-14 03:18:58 AM
The whole family ought to be sent to one of those secret rehabilitation camps.

Seriously though, it's one thing to demonstrate or question the administration, but quite another to threaten the president.

They don't take too kindly to that.
 
2006-10-14 03:20:16 AM
vgss: Why does one guy get his own private police force?

Assassinated presidents
* Abraham Lincoln - assassinated by John Wilkes Booth
* James Garfield - assassinated by Charles J. Guiteau
* William McKinley - assassinated by Leon F. Czolgosz
* John Kennedy - assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald

Presidents who suffered attempted assassinations
* Andrew Jackson - would-be assassin: Richard Lawrence (both derringers misfired)
* Harry Truman - Oscar Collazo and Griselio Torresola attempted to storm Blair House, residence of Truman
* Gerald Ford - would be assassins: Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme and Sara Jane Moore, in two separate incidences
* Ronald Reagan - shot and wounded by John W. Hinkley, Jr
 
2006-10-14 03:20:23 AM
Hey morons:

"There is no legal requirement that parents be notified."

\R (ALL) TFA
 
2006-10-14 03:20:26 AM
Jesse Misskelley's private interrogation at age 15 landed him a prison sentence for life + 40 years.. and put two other boys behind bars. Later it was found his testimony was coerced, but it was too late by then.

They do it. It's not right. I'm not sure of it's legality.

West Memphis Three for more information. It's a tragedy.

I hate the law often.
 
2006-10-14 03:20:56 AM
"They yelled at me a lot," she said. "They were unnecessarily mean."

...unneccessarily mean? Is it just me, or does anyone else think that getting away with an illegal scolding by the spooks is more than fair?

/should've at least taken a finger
 
2006-10-14 03:22:17 AM
Agent #2041 your mission at 0500 hours, change Hillbillies's diaper. He shiat himself again drinking a bottle of wiskey...we'll tell Laura he is reviewing a military objective in North Korea, over and out.
www.rapidcityjournal.com
 
2006-10-14 03:24:07 AM
log_jammin: Assassinated presidents

STFU!!!!

Oh, it all makes sense. We have to actually PRESERVE the government we elect. Even if we disagree it provides stability.

You sneaky bastage.
 
2006-10-14 03:24:45 AM
Saying "So-and-so should die!" and posting photoshopped pictures of them dead is a death threat. Free speech is one thing, but threatening the life of another person is a crime.

A warning is all the girl really needed, since what she was did was illegal.
 
2006-10-14 03:26:03 AM
I bet the Bushies found a way to make sure they got rid of all the secrect service guys that dont drink the kool-aid.
 
2006-10-14 03:26:38 AM
I feel bad for the kid.


LOL, not really.
 
2006-10-14 03:26:50 AM
Why would any of those mean she isn't "a threat to society"? (just sayin)

fair 'nough, but truly, what 13/14 year old is a threat to society unless they have a gun? seriously, she is a little kid, she is no threat, i can agree fully that it is the SS's job to check up on threats to the POTUS, but still, a young high school girl? i realize racial profiling is 'wrong', but a little girl? come one, there are limits to reason.


/i've have quite a few, and i find "SS's" pretty funny at this point.
 
2006-10-14 03:27:25 AM
"She replaced the page last spring after learning in her eighth-grade history class that such threats are a federal offense.
Too late.
Federal authorities had found the page and placed her on their checklist. They finally reached her this week in her molecular biology class."

...it's taking them 6 months? or is that a year and 6 months? Guess there's a lot of people on the list of people who they find vaguely threatening.
 
2006-10-14 03:29:29 AM
totalsecurity

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2006-10-14 03:31:01 AM
 
2006-10-14 03:31:10 AM
Threatening the Prez is a fed offense. Even the tards riding the short bus know this.

But I love how the SF Gate portrays this stupid idiot girl as so innocent. "Oh, gee whiz, threatening to kill the Prez on the internet makes Secret Service guys come interview me?? OMG like no way!!"
 
2006-10-14 03:31:33 AM
Just imagine how many millions of dollars each year must be spent in order to investigate every single possible threat. With the number of people who hate the current president, the sheer number of "potential threats" must be staggering. Also, with the amount of time it apparently takes to complete an investigation (the stuff was removed from the page well over a year ago), it kind of seems like carrying one out would be entirely futile in many cases. By the time the secret service got around to questioning that girl, she could have easily been in Washington with a gun to the president's head.

Now imagine how much money could be saved by just using a little common sense.
 
2006-10-14 03:35:32 AM
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2006-10-14 03:36:43 AM
Funny, this girl could get a SS visit for what she did, yet Pat Robertson can get away with calling for a foreign head of state to be taken out.
 
2006-10-14 03:36:56 AM
Jack Torrence: Threatening the Prez is a fed offense. Even the tards riding the short bus know this.

But I love how the SF Gate portrays this stupid idiot girl as so innocent. "Oh, gee whiz, threatening to kill the Prez on the internet makes Secret Service guys come interview me?? OMG like no way!!"


the page was made by a thirteen year old girl/

but don't let that stop you from being a kool-aid drinking douche bag.


/posted by a real conservative, who thinks bush is a fascist
 
2006-10-14 03:37:20 AM
Newsflash: Clinton received plenty of threats, too. And the SS investigated them all.

The difference is that (1) middle- and high-school kids back then were smart enough to not make death threats against the Prez based on the misinformation they heard from their commie teachers and from CNN, and (2) the liberal mainstream media didn't write slanted articles about the investigations.
 
2006-10-14 03:40:19 AM
Jack Torrence: The difference is that (1) middle- and high-school kids back then were smart enough to not make death threats against the Prez based on the misinformation they heard from their commie teachers and from CNN, and (2) the liberal mainstream media didn't write slanted articles about the investigations.



This is a Joke right? or are you that retarded
 
2006-10-14 03:40:31 AM
shiat! my bad, I'm loaded, i don't usually drop tags, and i sure as shiat didn't do it on purpose, but i missed the . in my </b> tag, my bust, sorry.

/tear into me, i deserve it.
 
2006-10-14 03:41:43 AM
Rob4127

Do you know where I can find the actual articles from those Fark threads? The first one is dead and the second one isn't what it's supposed to be.

I wasn't around at that time and so I have no idea what happened (but would like to know).
 
2006-10-14 03:42:29 AM
Just saw that NewportBarGuy thank you :) Thank you for serving, as well.

I wonder why this girl's family notified the press when they even said they understood why she was questioned.
Maybe she'll write a book or something.
 
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