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(NPR)   Illegal cellphones becoming so prevalent in prisons that convicts' mothers are calling wardens and demanding to know why reception is so poor inside the facility   (npr.org) divider line 70
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2006-10-13 02:41:20 AM
Why don't they just set up jammers?
 
2006-10-13 10:18:52 AM
mardidavril: Why don't they just set up jammers?

The expense. Jails are supposed to be as cheap as possible.

That, and it'll be pretty obvious who's got a cellphone with the whole "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?" schtick.

And the reception, like they said, prolly sucks.

Though I suppose if the state asked the cellphone company real nice-like, they could lower the power of the cell towers near the prisons.
 
2006-10-13 12:10:42 PM
mardidavril: Why don't they just set up jammers?

FTA: "That's one way to keep cell phones out of prisons. Another is to jam all cell-phone signals, but officials have found that usually interferes with officers' radios and other critical equipment."
 
2006-10-13 01:36:34 PM
Wow. Just...wow....
 
2006-10-13 01:36:50 PM
HELLO!

I'M IN A PRISON CELL!!!
 
2006-10-13 01:37:40 PM
"Poor reception, ma'am? Hmmm... I'm not sure why. I have a question for you though, why couldn't keep your legs closed or raise your kid right? Thanks for calling"
 
2006-10-13 01:38:24 PM
There was an article on FARK a couple weeks ago about some prison dude that was hiding a cell phone up his ass.

Gives a new meaning to the term "cell phone jammer."

/Oy, I'll be here all week
 
2006-10-13 01:38:40 PM
Why don't they just set up jammers?

Yeah, just tell the inmates that if they get caught with a cell phone they'll have to share a cell with the jammer - and he ain't gonna be jammin' signals, if you know what I mean.
 
2006-10-13 01:39:22 PM
Why don't they just set up jammers?

San Quentin Jammers?
www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com
 
2006-10-13 01:39:39 PM
Or monitor that shiat. Since the phones are illegal monitoring the conversations should not be.
 
2006-10-13 01:40:47 PM
Lutalo, speaking from a prison pay phone, says inmates merely have to pay a one-time fee of $500 to a corrupt correctional officer.

z.about.com

//Bellick wants your $500
 
2006-10-13 01:41:11 PM
On a more serious note -- I imagine that this kind of news is absolutely terrifying for witnesses if they knew that even jail isn't going to stop people from communicating outside to hire a hitman, etc.

(Not that it's stopped anyone before, of course)
 
2006-10-13 01:41:56 PM
They need to stop the farking racket of charging $8 a minute for collect calls from prison.
 
2006-10-13 01:43:22 PM
There was an article on FARK a couple weeks ago about some prison dude that was hiding a cell phone up his ass.
www.gonemovies.com

Bet he had trouble Walken.

/try the waitress, tip your veal
 
2006-10-13 01:45:04 PM
we_hates: They need to stop the farking racket of charging $8 a minute for collect calls from prison.

Or, people could stop getting arrested and wouldn't have to pay $8 a minute.

/whoodathunkit
 
MN8
2006-10-13 01:45:38 PM
Does anyone have the actual text of the Walken speech from Pulp Fiction?
 
2006-10-13 01:47:06 PM
Mr-Wunderful: Or monitor that shiat. Since the phones are illegal monitoring the conversations should not be.

Sets a bad precedent. Is also a pain in the ass to do properly.

Just have the telco turn down the power on the cell towers nearest the prison.
 
2006-10-13 01:47:15 PM
See, if they were all wearing pink jammies out in the middle of the Arizona desert, we wouldn't have to worry abuot this.

/no reception in the desert, either
 
2006-10-13 01:49:27 PM
ROFLOL

"Thanks for your feedback ma'am, we'll immediately address this problem. Why don't you tell me the name of your son so we can go measure the signal strength in his cell?"

(promptly goes and arrests the asshat with the retarded parents)


we_hates
They need to stop the farking racket of charging $8 a minute for collect calls from prison.


You're absolutely correct... In fact, why don't we completely eliminate ALL phone calls from convicted prisoners, and they can rely on letter writing to communicate instead. After all, there's no right to phone calls in the constitution...
 
2006-10-13 01:49:32 PM
JTorres176
Or, people could stop getting arrested and wouldn't have to pay $8 a minute.

What about the innocent guys who were falsely convicted?
 
2006-10-13 01:50:37 PM
slimshaydee: What about the innocent guys who were falsely convicted?

Or the guilty guys who got a scheister to get them off?
 
2006-10-13 01:50:57 PM
MN8

The way your dad looked at it, this watch was your birthright. He'd be damned if any of the slopes were gonna get their greasy yellow hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide something: his ass. Five long years, he wore this watch up his ass. Then when he died of dysentery, he gave me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable piece of metal up my ass for two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little man, I give the watch to you.
 
2006-10-13 01:53:02 PM
Hello Dad? I'm in JAIL!
 
2006-10-13 01:55:08 PM
JTorres176: Or, people could stop getting arrested and wouldn't have to pay $8 a minute.

I should have known the farksticks here wouldn't be able to think beyond their hatred. I point out that there's a huge scam going on and people don't care so long as some contemptable scum gets burned.

fark that. A scam is a scam and should be eliminated. Want to limit calls for inmates, fine, limit them, but let some farking telco get rich in the process. There are legitimate reasons for prisoners to make phone calls, including talking to their appellate attorneys. We should probably get rid of those, too, though.
 
2006-10-13 01:55:28 PM
Hmmnnn... If they catch you breaking the law in jail, is it still getting arrested when they catch you and charge you?
 
2006-10-13 01:58:09 PM
JTorres176
Or the guilty guys who got a scheister to get them off?

They aren't in jail so they don't pay $8 per minute for a collect call.
 
2006-10-13 01:59:41 PM
...in other news, the success rate of the witness protection program and of plea-bargaining offers has declined sharply
 
2006-10-13 02:00:27 PM
we_hates: There are legitimate reasons for prisoners to make phone calls, including talking to their appellate attorneys. We should probably get rid of those, too, though.

They can drive there and see them for free, there's no charge for that and unlimited visitation rights for attorneys. Wait, attorneys probably don't want to sit in jail either while talking to them. Nevermind, just shoot them on their first arrest and get it over with. Death penalty for all offenses.

/that is what you want me to say, right?
 
2006-10-13 02:01:32 PM
That whole $8/min thing is a huge scam. I have no problem with having the inmate have to pay for the calls made, but for chrissakes, they should be able to purchase a calling card at the commisary, like they do with stamps, etc.

The collect call scam is making the families pay, not the person who committed the crime.
 
2006-10-13 02:02:24 PM
slimshaydee: They aren't in jail so they don't pay $8 per minute for a collect call.

By your logic though, we shouldn't even have prisons on the off chance that someone's not guilty. If there's one out of a thousand convictions that are wrongful, then we shouldn't make any of the prisoners pay because a tenth of a percent of them would have to pay when they shouldn't have to.

We could be like the UN and tell people strong statements like... "Stop! or we'll say stop again!" and not actually make anyone pay any penalties.

You have an interesting theory. I wonder why no one uses it. Oh wait... I know why people don't use it, nevermind.
 
2006-10-13 02:02:32 PM
All payphone calls are already monitored in prison, so monitoring cell calls doesn't change anything. I think the simplest way is to just install a fake mini tower on prison grounds that lets all the networks connect to it. They'd never get a signal.

But, I've been in prison before, and these are not very sharp crayons in charge, trust that.
 
2006-10-13 02:03:45 PM
Hmm...rather than spending a lot of money on esoteric cell-triangulation equipment, why not just have the guards patrol the cells? Hearing "Crap, I gotta go!" echo down a cellblock would kinda give it up, huh?

Otherwise, why not just put cameras with microphones around the jail? Surely that's less expensive, can be centrally monitored, and is common technology.

Or, you know, search the cells on a regular basis. Claim it's looking for "weapons and other contraband". Confiscate any cellphones found. Repeat weekly.

I fail to see why spending thouands of dollars or more on some crazy new technology is even on the table...
 
2006-10-13 02:05:43 PM
JTorres176

You know I was just trying to be a smartass in my original post. But yes there should be no prisons. I want a challenge when I walk home at night, rather than a boring crime free stroll.
 
2006-10-13 02:07:10 PM
fark 'em, just toss a molotov into the cell of the first person they see using a cell phone.

Calls will dry up in no time.
 
2006-10-13 02:07:14 PM
"When you make it criminal to own a cellphone, only criminals will have cellphones"

/paraphrasing
 
2006-10-13 02:08:54 PM
slimshaydee: You know I was just trying to be a smartass in my original post.

Smartass? Hell, I thought you were just part of the ACLU

//ACLU stands for All Criminals Love Us, right?
 
2006-10-13 02:11:03 PM
from TFA:

Former and current prison officials across the country agree. They say for the most part, prison staff are to blame. Unlike drugs and cash, which can be smuggled in through the mail and inmate visits, it takes someone on the inside to get a phone past the prison metal detectors.

Aww soo cute, they think that guards arnt the ones smuggling drugs....
 
2006-10-13 02:14:38 PM
JTorres176

Smartass? Hell, I thought you were just part of the ACLU

//ACLU stands for All Criminals Love Us, right?


I'd never be a part of any seppo organisation

/bloody yanks
 
2006-10-13 02:20:34 PM
"The ACLU is challenging the Bush administration's illegal spying..........."

Only criminals love the ACLU?

huh?
 
2006-10-13 02:20:40 PM
Why not allow them to have mobile phones? Inmates are allowed daily access to pay phones via the use of a pin number. The only difference is they don't have to wait in line to use the phone and they can use the money on their books for other, more important things, like tooth paste.
 
2006-10-13 02:24:01 PM
Having a good friend in prison for a stupid mistake, I can say that being charged almost 40 bucks for a ten minute collect call is likely the reason for smuggling cellphones into prison.
 
2006-10-13 02:26:49 PM
www.prison-break.webz.cz

Or they could be fake phones made out of soap to see if one's cellmate wont squeal on their escape plan.
 
2006-10-13 02:37:17 PM
keenerb:

People go to prison for committing crimes, not for making mistakes.
 
2006-10-13 02:37:50 PM
"I had 8,000 employees in 27 prisons. I couldn't be everywhere."

I hate that cop-out cliche answer. That's why you delegate SUPERVISORS to look after all those people. Thats how the damn system works.

And who gets that $8/min by the way? Because if it's the telco, thats a scam. if it's the prison, I say right on, anything to bankroll expensive freakin prisons instead of my pocket.

Too many people are out to "protect the rights of inmates". isn't the idea of a prison to hold people who took rights away from others?...

//sorry mr and miss victim, I'm gonna have to charge you extra taxes to pay for you're attacker's new plasma screen. it's for correctional purposes though, I assure you.
 
2006-10-13 03:03:06 PM
Deep_Hurting

A mistake that was a crime. The terms are not exclusive, and I never claimed he was innocent.

While I shan't bore you with the details, let's just say it was a victimless crime that broke a law of puritanical morality, rather than an act of violence or a crime that deprived another person of life, liberty, or property.
 
2006-10-13 03:06:48 PM
I used to think prison was hard. Now, I'm thinking...X-boxes, cable, cell-phones...maybe not so much.
 
2006-10-13 03:10:56 PM
keenerb: While I shan't bore you with the details, let's just say it was a victimless crime that broke a law of puritanical morality

They can jail you for beastiality?
 
2006-10-13 03:11:43 PM
Do they have outlets in the cells for charging?
I think I'll invent a hand-cranked cell phone. That'll be a real big seller, especially if it will fit in the average human rectum. Not sure of the best way to point out that feature on the packaging. I may have to make the crank handle removable.

So do they have a cell phone version of Worlds Of Warcraft? That would make the years fly right by.
 
2006-10-13 03:26:30 PM
heypete

Because these are the same guards who snuck the phones to the prisoners in the first place.

/RTFA
//The tense modifiers of my first sentance suck. I know. Deal with it.
 
2006-10-13 03:45:25 PM
Didn't someone come up with paint that blocks cell phone reception? They could just paint inside the cell areas, that way guards could still use them in safe areas. Probably not the most econimical way to do it though.
 
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