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2006-10-12 02:58:47 PM
ME NO LIKE TO THINK! THINKING RUIN TV!!
 
2006-10-12 02:59:45 PM
There isn't anything to dissect on Lost.

The 'clues' aren't actual clues, usable to solve an actual mystery.
It's all just a glorified game of "where's waldo" with cultural minutia.
It'd make for a good 'pop-up video' DVD remix, but not much else.

The show's good.
The 'mystery' is a giant farkin MacGuffin.
 
2006-10-12 03:00:19 PM
I'm mostly just annoyed because the first season was spectacular and the second season was nowhere near as gripping. I watch it out of loyalty to the first season and in the hopes that it will grab my attention again.
 
2006-10-12 03:01:00 PM
khturner

Lets never bring back the Prisoner. Its already on the verge of being ruined by fans who keep delving deeper and deeper into the meaning of the series in search of...

information?

/you won't get it
 
2006-10-12 03:01:45 PM
This is the same sort of neo-analytic shiat that plagued the x-files. Whatever. You watch the x-files now and it's still better than anything currently on television, with the exception of 24 and lost (and some of the HBO. Sci Fi Channel studd which is just brilliant).
 
2006-10-12 03:01:49 PM
I have to admit in addition to watching Lost, I also read Lostpedia. For the first season, it was interesting to see the different theories people had regarding different facets of the plot.

Now, Lostpedia is filled with absolute garbage in the theory department and I think this is a general observance of the author of TFA.

I'd say SPOILERS but goddamn, it was two weeks ago, so - when Tom says "Kate, you're not my type" as she gets into te shower, the implication here is pretty strong that either a) he's gay, or b) he's gay, because if you like women, Kate is your type. Now you can't even visit Lost fan sites without seeing IS HE AN ALIEN? OR MAYBE A ROBOT! Oh, oh, I know, MAYBE HE'S A GAY ROBOT ALIEN!

Do the writers encourage this crap? God yes. But fark, I wish the goddamn ignorant "Maybe Tom is really Jack's dad, but fatter, and more alive, and more hillbilly" fans would die in a fire. They give the rest of us a bad reputation. Where does this crap even come from?
 
2006-10-12 03:02:23 PM
Why is it that so many people who seem to hate the show, or who have never even watched it, take the time to come to a thread like this and spew hate and filith about it?


For the same reason I taught my daughter to stop throwing like a girl. Because some things are a matter of opinion, and other things are just wrong...

/filith spewner
 
2006-10-12 03:02:33 PM
khturner

Well that should definatley be interesting...

Awesome!
 
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2006-10-12 03:02:36 PM
i13.photobucket.com

Actress: Evangeline Lilly
Acting Range: Everything from "blank stare" to "That pained look she always does on Lost."

I just wish she'd stop giving everyone that look. Make her stop!
 
2006-10-12 03:02:52 PM
To all the people who say "I WANT ANSWERS!!!!11ELEVENTY!!1"

Once those answers are given, nobody will watch the show again, end of story. They are smart if they drag out the questions for 5-6 seasons, and then spend 1-2 seasons answering them..........thats a hell of a run for a show.
 
2006-10-12 03:02:57 PM
I think the guy is complaining that the show's actual content- the stuff you'd watch even if you're not into the side game- is starting to cater too much to the side game.

I know all about the show, but I've never seen it. The idea is brilliant, if they carry it out right. But the one thing they can't do is add content to the show that is meaningless unless you've interacted with the side game outside of TV. That will piss people off.
 
2006-10-12 03:03:23 PM
icy_one: Now you can't even visit Lost fan sites without seeing IS HE AN ALIEN? OR MAYBE A ROBOT! Oh, oh, I know, MAYBE HE'S A GAY ROBOT ALIEN!


Kate's a psycho killer. It's all good until it's not.
 
2006-10-12 03:03:29 PM
As I've always said, the only one of these shows that was any good was "The Prisoner," and that's because McGoohan demanded only a set number of episodes to tell the story he wanted to tell and that was it. No slowing it down, no second season, no nothing. "Lost," "The X-Files," "Alias," etc., they all have no idea when to quit, and that's why I don't go for any of those shows however zeitgeisty they might be at the moment. I know they'll just let their audience down eventually.

/and even McGoohan had to up the episode total by 2 because of TV execs, but that was it
 
2006-10-12 03:03:35 PM
MrToast: I don't think The Matrix is a good analogy. I think Twin Peaks is a better one.

True that. Even though Twin Peaks only had one riddle (who killed Laura Palmer), and it didn't make any sense once unraveled (the killer was possessed by an evil person from another dimension). The show completely sucked after it was uncovered, but somehow plod through another season and a half.

I'm still ticked off that Millennium was canceled just before the year 2000. The second season of that show is the best run on television ever. Plus, it had Locke.

I'm still digging Lost, and have Jericho TiVo'd for later.
 
2006-10-12 03:03:52 PM
The problem with Lost is that they had a concept that would have been great for one season. They had a story that had a beginning and an end. But the middle act was not good enough to last for several seasons. So they had to stretch it. Constant flashback background pieces with little happening on the overall story arc.
Don't get me wrong. I still watch it but it seems to me to be written on the fly for the most part.
 
2006-10-12 03:03:55 PM
Hopefully they will not run it out without tying up loose ends. Alias is a prime example..it went 5 years..and when it was time to cancel, they tied everything up into a nice little bow still leaving room for a spin off series or tv movie when Jennifer Garner needs work again...

\\I like Lost
\\Last nights episode was good... Sun is hot!
\\Sick of the questions though at least tell us something about the history of the others...
 
2006-10-12 03:04:19 PM
The Matrix Reloaded rocked, especially the Neo/1000 Smiths scene. I haven't seen CG that kickass since Contra III on the supernin.

/want a good tv show? watch seasons 1 and 3 of The Wire.
//Carnivale was good too.
 
2006-10-12 03:05:11 PM
anal brazil men [TotalFark]

Dark City is better than the Matrix!

Agreed there.
 
2006-10-12 03:05:12 PM
images.fluctuat.net
 
2006-10-12 03:05:21 PM
THERES NOT ENOUGH CHANNELS ON MY TV!!!!! SOMEBODY HELP ME PLEASE!!!!
 
2006-10-12 03:05:21 PM
That said, I am watching "The Nine" and enjoying it...I figure there's less potential for the show running for eight years and resolving itself with "everyone died during the bank robbery, hahahaha!" as "Lost" seems to be doing. However much the creators say "it's not purgatory," the more and more batshiat weird they make the show, the more likely it is they're gonna have to explain it all away with "they've been dead the whole time."
 
2006-10-12 03:05:42 PM
2006-10-12 03:01:00 PM vonmatrices

I don't think it's quite as amenable to excruciatingly ridiculous overanalysis as Lost is. There's just a damn good amount of style, though it's probably been lost in the last 40 years. I just want to see more people getting swallowed by Rovers, really.
 
2006-10-12 03:06:16 PM
different people approach lost in different ways, and it usually says as much about themsleves as the program. if one likes puzzles (or makes life a puzzle), it is likely one'll see it as a puzzle to be solved, and derive some sense of victory or accomplishment. if one sees it as a story (or makes life a story), it is likely one will become involved with the characters and the narrative, and derive some sense of enjoyment, sorrow, or resolution.

some people will not even care at all. they'll probably buy something from the susan lucci collection on QVC.
 
2006-10-12 03:06:42 PM
My sentiments exactly. People overanalyse the show. The people at televisionwithoutpity.com are the absolutely worst about it.
 
2006-10-12 03:07:00 PM
Dammit, I just spent 15 minutes supporting my previous post that we did not need another Jin/Sun flashback and when I tried to post it, the unfetchable link deleted everything I wrote. AAAAAGGGHHHHH

So go to www.thefuselage.com (not linkable) if you are like me and are a LOST geek.

Austin & JBHoward -- I do like the character developments but did we actually LEARN anything last night? We already knew Sun's dad was a jerk, that she was cheating with her English teacher, that Jin didn't like working for Sun's dad, and that it was possible that Sun's baby isn't Jin's (or even Sun's for that matter... hmmm). So if they're going to do YET ANOTHER FLASHBACK why not give us one where we find out why Locke is paralyzed? Or what happened to Jack's dad's body? Or god knows another million other unanswered questions? We just didn't need more superfluous info on Jin & Sun.

If you want to talk about LOST I can do that all day long.
 
2006-10-12 03:07:23 PM
While I like Lost. HBO's The Wire is the best show on tv.
Followed by Battlestar Galactica and The Shield.

hbo.imageg.net
 
2006-10-12 03:07:42 PM
Another good example of a show that "lost" it: "Twin Peaks"
 
2006-10-12 03:08:05 PM
robsul82: As I've always said, the only one of these shows that was any good was "The Prisoner," and that's because McGoohan demanded only a set number of episodes to tell the story he wanted to tell and that was it. No slowing it down, no second season, no nothing. "Lost," "The X-Files," "Alias," etc., they all have no idea when to quit, and that's why I don't go for any of those shows however zeitgeisty they might be at the moment. I know they'll just let their audience down eventually.

better to have loved and lost, etc. etc.

\enjoying Lost while it lasts
 
2006-10-12 03:08:14 PM
I think the show strikes a good balance betweeen character development and mythology. Heck, wasn't the middle section of last season *all* about character dev?
 
2006-10-12 03:09:22 PM
SuperCrackMonkey: Think about what happened to The West Wing when Aaron Sorkin left. That really sums it up perfectly.

Or Northern Exposure when Falsey and Brand went away.

Chris Carter never left The X-Files, but it was obvious by the end that he was plumb outta ideas.

I hope the folks at "24" can keep pulling the handkerchiefs out of their sleeves, but they've already covered every WMD known to science, including Naked Mandy.
 
2006-10-12 03:09:53 PM
Fark Lost - Let's turn this into a HOUSE thread
 
2006-10-12 03:10:08 PM
I haven't watched one episode of lost. Is it really any good?
 
2006-10-12 03:10:08 PM
NoAssemblyReqd: I think the show strikes a good balance betweeen character development and mythology. Heck, wasn't the middle section of last season *all* about character dev?


And unlike the x-files people actually get laid.
 
2006-10-12 03:10:22 PM
I'll agree that the fights in the last two Matrix flicks were cool....

Plot and cohesiveness-wise, they were a trainwreck.
 
2006-10-12 03:10:37 PM
wait until an adopted kid shows up...then you know theyre out of ideas.
 
2006-10-12 03:10:53 PM
Carnivale, The Wire, and Arrested Development.


I liked the first season of Lost, the second really "got my goat" (that means bad), but so far I've watched this season and it's allright.
 
2006-10-12 03:11:01 PM
So...people still watch network TV?

(Oh, and Twin Peaks never lost it. It got canceled before it could tie up loose ends.
 
2006-10-12 03:11:07 PM
Rachel Blake says none of you know what you're talking about.



Dr. Mittelwerk agrees.
 
2006-10-12 03:11:17 PM
Tarl3k: Once those answers are given, nobody will watch the show again, end of story. They are smart if they drag out the questions for 5-6 seasons, and then spend 1-2 seasons answering them..........thats a hell of a run for a show.

They have to be careful, though. That's what they did with The X-Files, but by the time they got to the wrap-up part Duchovny and Anderson had gotten too big for their britches, and people (except for the hardcore fans) pretty much stopped caring.

Plus, they were so desperate to leave things open for another movie that they cocked up the execution.
 
2006-10-12 03:11:39 PM
"GAY ROBOT ALIEN!"

I knew it!

The main problem I have with the show is that the writers are trying to hang me over far too many cliffs, over plot twists that I just don't care about. I don't care why Sarah left Jack. I don't care if the baby that Sun is carrying is really Jin's or Jae's. I don't even care to know why Jack's revelation face is eerily similar to anyone else's constipation face. I just don't care.

Tell me major details, like how The Others got on the island in the first place, why do they like children so much, and why, OH GOD WHY, didn't they make Kate's sundress see-through? That's what I'd really like to know.
 
2006-10-12 03:11:48 PM
It is pretty obvious that Lost has run out of steam. I quit watching after the beginning of this season when the characters would continue to just do the dumbest things. That and when it became clear that the writers were reading way too much of the fan forums and responding during the show.
 
2006-10-12 03:11:48 PM
I would like to see Locke blowing Eko next week.
 
2006-10-12 03:11:54 PM
Lost Viewers Name:

Losers

/just sayin'
 
2006-10-12 03:11:54 PM
I still like Lost but its getting turned from commpelling drama into angst fest. I'm getting to the point where I'm looking forward to seeing Sawyer with his shirt off, as opposed to another flashback.
 
2006-10-12 03:11:55 PM
Jesus is black...
Greedo shoots first...
The prequels suck...
Starbuck's a chick...
The new Transformers movie...

Cry Me A Freakin' River(TM)
 
2006-10-12 03:12:04 PM
"Lost," "The X-Files," "Alias," etc., they all have no idea when to quit, and that's why I don't go for any of those shows however zeitgeisty they might be at the moment. I know they'll just let their audience down eventually.

Apparently no one knows anything about how TV works. I'll say it again:

That's what kills ALL good TV. There was a good article in EW about that a few issues ago, that basically all good TV series degenerate because the networks don't want to lose their cash cow but the writers/creator/etc. are basically done.

Think about what happened to The West Wing when Aaron Sorkin left. That really sums it up perfectly. The writers of LOST have a website, www.thefuselage.com, where they actually post what they are thinking and why they are doing things. They claim they will NOT let ABC hijack the show and keep it on longer than they plan. But we'll see, money talks. Look at ER, that show hasn't been good in 5 years and it's still on the air.
 
2006-10-12 03:12:17 PM
the_gospel_of_thomas: GOD that movie sucked.

It begs the question of why Philip K. Dick is so ill-served by Hollywood.
 
2006-10-12 03:12:20 PM
SuperCrackMonkey: I do like the character developments but did we actually LEARN anything last night?

We learned that the English teacher died. Maybe suicide,maybe he was helped. Sun shot one of the others. Sayiid and crew lost the sailboat.
The tasers have a safety. The others have satellite tv :-)
 
2006-10-12 03:12:56 PM
Brad_Will: They have to be careful, though. That's what they did with The X-Files, but by the time they got to the wrap-up part Duchovny and Anderson had gotten too big for their britches, and people (except for the hardcore fans) pretty much stopped caring.


I liked Daggit. He was an awesome character. The thing is, he didn't belong on the x-files. He needed his own series.
 
2006-10-12 03:13:24 PM
does anyone else remember season 2 of Twin Peaks? I mean after Leland died, the whole thing kinda went. well
bad...

or how about season 3 of Millenium?

I for one, fear for lost...

/great show, don't want it to go bad
//Leland's death scene was powerful, wayyy to powerful for tv
 
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