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2006-10-11 06:42:59 PM
"I hope Dick Cheney doesn't shoot us down," I joked.

Wow, author is a really funny guy.
 
2006-10-11 07:27:54 PM
"I tell you they could not hit an elephant at this distance."
And then General John Sedgwick got plugged right in the forehead.
 
2006-10-11 07:31:23 PM
"No one ever gets hurt making these films."

--Brandon Lee, Wilmington Star-News, the day before a hollowtip blew a dinner plate-sized hole in his abdomen.
 
2006-10-11 07:41:23 PM
Flying is very safe. Unfortunately it can lead to something called falling, which isn't.
 
2006-10-11 07:42:48 PM
Flying is very safe. Flying into stuff is not.
 
2006-10-11 07:42:50 PM
GA planes aren't as safe as airliners (and are slightly more dangerous than cars), but they're still not the huge risk that some people make them out to be.
 
2006-10-11 07:43:24 PM
Looks like that's the only hit Lidle got all season. Hitting the building that is. Now I know some suck butt Yankee fan will look up and see that he got a hit in interleague play but he hit this one way out of the park baby.
 
2006-10-11 07:44:41 PM
"Hope your darn ole plane crashes."
--Waylon Jennings to Buddy Holly on Feburary 3, 1959
 
2006-10-11 07:45:02 PM
badgerb: he hit this one way out of the park baby.
 
2006-10-11 07:45:13 PM

"Uh-oh. Thoughts of Thurman Munson and Roberto Clemente, baseball stars who lost their lives on planes, popped into my head. But I was determined to go through with this, live or die."


I bet the next sports related article this guy writes is, "Alex Rodgriguez takes me for a ride in his Big Wheel."

 
2006-10-11 07:46:37 PM
It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife...
 
2006-10-11 07:47:56 PM
Wonder if the Condo. owners insurance will cover this? I mean, after 9/11 I wouldn't think ANY insurance company would cover a plane hitting a high rise building. Other New Yorkers had to be thinking, eh, what are the odds?
 
2006-10-11 07:49:50 PM
I think flying is safer because less people do it. Think of the rammifications the war on terror would have if people where commuting by way of flying cars. I've heard of neighborhoods that have aircraft hangers and the streets are wide enough for them to taxi an aircraft on it. Mostly rich people live there and commute to work by aircraft because they like it, and its remote enough from the city to get to work in less than 60 minutes by private aircraft. But, its mostly rich folks so they maintain thier aircraft.


Think of an old beat-up Jaguar flying car being maintained by a woman and that should tell you that flying is dangerous.

This is why there is a government conspiracy to keep flying cars away from the public.
 
2006-10-11 07:50:42 PM
who was this guy? i don't follow sports, was he like a bigwig like shaq or joe montana? i never really heard of him but some peple are like OMG MY WORLD IS UPSIDE DOWN NOW and some are like HAHA HE COULDNT HIT THE BROADSIDE OF A BARN so i'm guessing he wasn't very good technically but had a dedicated fan base?
 
2006-10-11 07:51:03 PM
Erin_Go_Braghless

In my 25 years, I've only heard one other person say that quote...my Dad. The king of all Waylon Jennings fans.

Bravo!
 
2006-10-11 07:51:20 PM
It is usually safe. If you're not an idiot flying VFR over a major metropolitan area when the weather's crap.

All three airports in the area were reporting a layer of clouds between 1400 and 2000 feet. That's maybe ok to scud run in the midwest, but you try that in NYC and you're going to hit something.
 
2006-10-11 07:51:50 PM
THANK GOD this thread started up.... We was running out of paper on them other ones.
 
2006-10-11 07:54:26 PM
"It's totally safe," Lidle said, reassuring me. "You'll get an engine quit in a 5-year-old Mercedes more than you'll get this engine to quit. People don't understand it. And if it quits, we'd have plenty of time to glide to where I can land somewhere."

Yikes.
 
2006-10-11 07:56:20 PM
I guess no one, but NO ONE, outbids Cory Lidle for a condo he wants ...
 
2006-10-11 07:56:35 PM
He had all the plane lingo down, none of which I understood, other than the signoff: "Roger."

www.oscars.org

"Huh???"
 
2006-10-11 07:57:10 PM
"GA planes aren't as safe as airliners (and are slightly more dangerous than cars)"

Please cite your source... it sounds like BS
 
2006-10-11 07:58:20 PM
Not irony, even if true.

Coincidence.

/paging Ms. Morrisette.
 
2006-10-11 07:58:50 PM
"It's totally safe," Lidle said, reassuring me. "You'll get an engine quit in a 5-year-old Mercedes more than you'll get this engine to quit. People don't understand it. And if it quits, we'd have plenty of time to glide to where I can land somewhere."

"Unless there is a building in the way." he added, joking.
 
2006-10-11 08:01:21 PM
"Unless there is a building in the way." he added, joking.

LOL, nice. That reminds me of John Lennon's last words.

"Is that a gun?"
 
2006-10-11 08:02:10 PM
Overheard from the back seat: "Cory, you're doing a heckuva job."
 
2006-10-11 08:03:38 PM
chewd: "GA planes aren't as safe as airliners (and are slightly more dangerous than cars)"

Please cite your source... it sounds like BS



I'm not sure you can even do a statistically valid comparison. Last I checked you could count on one hand the number of GA deaths in this area in the last 30 years but there's far less people flying than driving. A percentage of very small numbers is not generally comparable to a percentage of very large numbers.
 
2006-10-11 08:04:02 PM
With four sudden flicks of the wrist, the pilot jerked the yoke away, then in, to the right and to the left - all in a second or two... Phillies pitcher Cory Lidle, a licensed pilot for a week

It's farktards like that that make GA look bad; he had his license for a whole week, and he's already trying to make his passengers queasy.

I don't know enough about today's crash yet to say for sure, but it looks like he was in over his head, even before today.
 
2006-10-11 08:07:16 PM
Yes, yes we know, irony simply doesn't exist in Farkistan.

irony - an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.

So did you Allanis fans all take him in the death pool...? Were you praying for him to crash or do you believe it appears to have been arranged....?

coincidence - a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by mere chance

or

A sequence of events that although accidental seems to have been planned or arranged.

/loves the irony nazis ;-)
 
2006-10-11 08:08:48 PM
kevlar: Flying is very safe. Unfortunately it can lead to something called falling, which isn't.

Falling's perfectly safe. Right after the falling is the part that hurts.
 
2006-10-11 08:09:14 PM
Corpsey Lidle?
 
2006-10-11 08:09:28 PM
Ball
 
2006-10-11 08:11:49 PM
Hey bagerb, that would be a good one, IF he was anything other then a pitcher in the american league you douche
 
2006-10-11 08:12:59 PM
So, what's on the next page of 'The Alanis Morrisette Big Book of Misunderstood Literary Terms'?

/thanks to dukefluke 2004-04-29 05:19:29 AM for that awesome title
 
2006-10-11 08:15:23 PM
TedLNancy: With four sudden flicks of the wrist, the pilot jerked the yoke away, then in, to the right and to the left - all in a second or two

This, folks, is the danger of flight simulators on a Nintendo: cheat codes don't work in real life.

/maybe I should go RTFA now
 
2006-10-11 08:16:12 PM
rawkus

definitely NOT a shaq/montana character. he was a starter at the bottom of the yankees' rotation (which is why it's kind of silly that everyone's saying FIRST HIT ALL YEAR HAHA). i think the "world upside down" people are more just shocked that the photos of the building burning now can be identified with someone we would recognize (and who we never would've guessed). i think coupled with the t.o. suicide attempt last week, it really highlights just how much we don't know about our pro athletes' mental stability.

/not fortitude. everyone knows a lot of them are dumb.
 
2006-10-11 08:17:26 PM
chewd
Please cite your source... it sounds like BS

I don't have a specific source, but generally the risk factor associated with flying GA is compared approximately to riding a motorcycle. Although generally, the accident rate drops off dramatically with increased pilot experience, with the first major decrease happening at about the 100 hour mark.
 
2006-10-11 08:18:43 PM

From the Int'l Herald Tribune:


""He was out of control," Mr. Miranda said. "He was on an incline, accelerating as he passed. Then he hooked around the corner, he hit the north side of the building, and you heard a tremendous explosion."

He said he and the other workers ran, checking the 38th and 39th floors for any people who needed to get out. As smoke quickly began filling up the rooms, they took the elevators down."


Not for nothing, but what kind of building with million dollar condos lets the elevators continue to run, especially during a fire? In the building I work in, they specifically tell you in an emergency(which is once you hear a warning alarm go off), the elevators will cease to run; you would have to take the stairs, even before you hear the actual evacuation notice.

 
2006-10-11 08:18:58 PM
I'd say its more likely that GA PLANES are just as safe as or safer than cars because they are better maintained, built and designed to a higher standard of quality, and are generally operated by better trained people...

In addition, the GA plane could be said to be safer than airline aircraft, generally, because GA planes dont fly nearly as much (Airliners spend as little time as possible on the ground, they cost too much to sit idle) and the person paying for maintenence on the GA plane is usually the person riding in it, and thus less likely to skimp or cut corners.

I would add that GA PILOTS arent as safe as airline pilots due to their lack of experience. Bold, wreckless, over-confident pilots generally dont keep flying long enough to get to the airlines, this is why aircraft insurance costs a great deal less once you get your IFR rating.

It sounds to me like this particular pilot over-estimated his abilities and paid the ultimate price for it. I am at about the same level as he is/was in my training and would NEVER attempt to fly in those conditions... its just not worth the risk.

The exceptional pilot uses his exceptional judgement to keep him out of situations which require his exceptional skills.

/160 hrs logged private pilot
//currently in IFR training
 
2006-10-11 08:19:04 PM
This, folks, is the danger of flight simulators on a Nintendo: cheat codes don't work in real life.

Well played, trigonman3, except Nintendo systems don't have any real flight sims. To get real flight sims, you need a computer.

/and this has been your anal nitpick of the day
 
2006-10-11 08:20:03 PM
Wow. Just wow.

/shudders
 
2006-10-11 08:20:36 PM
"We're a waaaaaay better team than the Tigers."
 
2006-10-11 08:23:30 PM
chewd:

I think it's also interesting that it's being reported now that the other person aboard was an instructor.

I myself can't get my head around what could have happened, although pilots I've talked to about flying the East River and Hudson Corridors have relayed that it's a Bad Idea (tm) to try to make a U-turn there. Maybe that was what was going on.

Regardless, it's a tragedy, and I'm sure the anti-GA busybodies out there will attempt to use this as an example in their continuing efforts to try to reduce our freedoms as pilots.
 
2006-10-11 08:25:25 PM
I blame Bush.
 
2006-10-11 08:26:02 PM
He explained to reporters the process of getting a pilot's license and said he intended to fly back to California in several days and planned to make a few stops. Lidle discussed the plane crash of John F. Kennedy Jr. and how he had read the accident report on the National Transportation Safety Board Web site.

Lidle, acquired from the Philadelphia Phillies on July 30, told The New York Times last month that his four-seat Cirrus SR20 plane was safe.

"The whole plane has a parachute [that can be deployed in the event of emergency] on it," Lidle said. "Ninety-nine percent of pilots that go up never have engine failure, and the 1 percent that do usually land it. But if you're up in the air and something goes wrong, you pull that parachute, and the whole plane goes down slowly."

Lidle also talked about airplanes' safety in an interview with MLB.com in February.

"If you're 7,000 feet in the air and your engine stops, you can glide for 20 minutes," Lidle said at the time. "As long as you're careful, everything should be fine."
 
2006-10-11 08:28:06 PM
GA is not that dangerous, I feel safer in a small plane than I do on a motorcycle. Even if the rates of death are equal, you are more likely to kill yourself in the plane, whereas on a motorcycle it is very often some other jerkoff who kills you. Maybe I'm a control freak, or arrogant, but I think I'd rather have my life in my hands, my screwup my death, but hopefully I'm a little better pilot than JFK Jr. et al. That is an interesting note reverendslappy about the 100hr mark. I was a friend's first passenger after his check ride, he only had 45hrs on the yoke, hahaha, no problems though.
 
2006-10-11 08:31:34 PM
Funkmaster Frank

Well played, trigonman3, except Nintendo systems don't have any real flight sims. To get real flight sims, you need a computer.

/and this has been your anal nitpick of the day


I would conjecture that someone who would make sudden control motions in an aircraft, without really knowing what they're doing, would consider games like Midway to be sims.

/plus the whole up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right-B-A-start thing
 
2006-10-11 08:33:33 PM
Funkmaster Frank: except Nintendo systems don't have any real flight sims.

Pilotwings?
 
2006-10-11 08:33:43 PM
MonK3yWr3nch

Personally I agree with you: I feel a lot safer flying than I do on a motorcycle, and largely because of the fact that if anything were to happen, I'll most likely have control over the situation (as opposed to some douche pulling out in front of me on the street). But from a statistical perspective, supposedly the two are comparable.

As for the 100 hour figure, it's open to debate... Some interpretations of the numbers say 100 hours, others more (350-400). But as with anything else, practice makes perfect, and the more experience you have the more likely you'll a) avoid bad situations in the first place and b) be better equipped to deal with them if and when they arise.
 
2006-10-11 08:34:18 PM
Dude, my card just went up in value!!!
 
2006-10-11 08:37:19 PM
Mister Peejay, that sounds like a reasonable conjecture.
 
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