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(BBC)   A Brit's take on the All-Star Game   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 251
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2002-07-11 10:39:08 AM  
must've forgot the /sarcasm

limey bastards ;-)
 
2002-07-11 10:39:12 AM  
"idea of sharing victory"....

You don't share victories in sports/contests.
 
2002-07-11 10:39:54 AM  
Carparker: Well said.
Baseball is almost dead here in the states. This next strike will kill if for sure. Americans don't have the attention span to sit down and watch a MLB game which if played correctly is like a Russian novel. Long, complex and gripping.
 
2002-07-11 10:39:58 AM  
Here's an idea:

In the case of a tie, the winner is determined by whoever won the Home Run Derby. That player's league would be declared the winner.
 
2002-07-11 10:41:42 AM  
Ragingleonard: As an American, I realise you're not familiar with the concept of democracy. The majority of people in Northern Ireland want to remain part of the UK.

BTW, when are you non-native Americans going to give the land back to the indigenous population and go back where you came from?
 
2002-07-11 10:42:30 AM  
"Serious question. What freedoms do Americans think they have that people in the EU don't have"

I can name a few the right to own a firearm, and the biggest is right of privacy you should look it up, anyone can plant and camera anywear, and the goverment and watch you every were you go. FUN STUFF!
 
2002-07-11 10:43:20 AM  
Purple_Jack:- Hello again. I just said that. Must be the accent again.
 
2002-07-11 10:43:46 AM  
"Baseball is almost dead here in the states."

Meanwhile stadium crowds continue to increase (except in a few cases where the team is lame, or the country doesn't care about the sport. ie: The Expos).

The demise of baseball is greatly exaggerated. The MLB Commissioner himself is doing most of the "doom and gloom" talk, because the owners want to put a salary cap on franchises, instead of just making the owners "control themselves".
 
2002-07-11 10:43:51 AM  
And I believe the Cubans beat Baltimore when the Cubans went to Baltimore.

and then promptly defected
 
2002-07-11 10:43:57 AM  
Redbird, you've just proven the authors point exactly. This is a foreign concept to Americans it seems.
 
2002-07-11 10:45:21 AM  
Yeah, and I bet if you asked most Isrealis living in the West bank if they'd like to stay they would say yes too. So would us Americans living on what used to be Native American land...and the Spanish who are living in the Basque country...and the Afrikanners...Of course the invading force (or their decendents) want to stay or to keep the friendly soldiers there for protection.
 
2002-07-11 10:45:25 AM  
Ballastpants What the hell is "orange squash?" And why would anyone throw "dustbins" of it at anyone?

Orange squash is orange pop/soda basically. Bondgirl is correct that dustbin=trash can. She's also right that they're talking about the cooler and they think it's a trash can for some reason.

Noise77: The Cubans absolutley crushed the Orioles when they played in Baltimore. It was embarassing.
 
2002-07-11 10:45:41 AM  
Zoomtown, I think you've been watching too much "spy camera action" on TNN.
 
2002-07-11 10:46:57 AM  
Normally I wouldn't be so petty as to point folks's semantic errors out, but this actually made me laugh out loud:

anyone can plant and camera anywear

Anyone can plant... what? Soybeans? People wear cameras? What?
 
2002-07-11 10:47:14 AM  
wow, Americans really ARE retarded - i thought it was just a stereotype but this thread proves me wrong.
 
2002-07-11 10:47:31 AM  
bah. Like we care what some limey git says.

Throw some more tea into the harbour.
 
2002-07-11 10:47:42 AM  
"Redbird, you've just proven the authors point exactly. This is a foreign concept to Americans it seems."

I realize that. But you did notice that I made that statement about a sporting event/contest. The author/journalist took this opportunity to equate our attitudes about our sports to our general attitude about everything.

I personally cannot stand a tie in any sporting event.
A contest is about finding out who the best person/team is.

That is why you play.
 
2002-07-11 10:48:39 AM  
Right to provacy varies accross the EU, in Holland companies aren't allowed to read your work emails or listen to your phonecalls. In the UK they are.

Right to owna firearm also applies here (UK)... you just need a good reason to own one, other than crime that is.
 
2002-07-11 10:50:27 AM  
Purple_Jack:
You ask "when are you non-native Americans going to give the land back to the indigenous population and go back where you came from?"

We'll, I'm one-fourth Dutch so I guess I'll be moving in next door to you.
 
2002-07-11 10:50:27 AM  
Redbird, can you not accept that sometimes people are equal. Yes the reason for competition is to determine who is better based on some form of points system, however, sometimes people get the same number of points. The goal has still been met, we find that they are equal and no-one is better in this case. What's the problem with that?
 
2002-07-11 10:50:37 AM  
Tuttle,

The Orioles were the worst or one of the worst teams in the league that year.
 
2002-07-11 10:51:02 AM  
No one really cares about baseball,i lost interest after they went on strike in 1994. The real american pastime is football.
 
2002-07-11 10:52:26 AM  
"however, sometimes people get the same number of points."

And that is when you find out who has the best stamina.
Who has trained longer.
Who wants it more.

"we find that they are equal and no-one is better in this case."

There is always someone better.
 
2002-07-11 10:52:54 AM  
I personally cannot stand a tie in any sporting event.
A contest is about finding out who the best person/team is.

That is why you play.


Not necessarily.. sometimes the game is just about the game, and within the rules of the game, there is sometimes no clear victor. I personally would rather see, say, a hockey game left at a tie, than force them to play into the wee hours of the morning til someone makes a mistake and the other team wins. That's not letting the best team win; it's just forcing a conclusion.
 
2002-07-11 10:53:34 AM  
Zoomtown:

:D

Tinfoil time...
 
2002-07-11 10:53:59 AM  
Chemmie: Isn't Mike Meyers Canadian?
 
2002-07-11 10:54:08 AM  
Tuttle...There are a lot of minor league teams in the US, and other teams around the world that could have beaten the Orioles that year.

They were truly pathetic.
 
2002-07-11 10:55:12 AM  
One of my most retarded moments:
At EPCOT center, i bought some Twinning tea in the England gift shop. When I showed my surprise that it didn't have tax, the British-born clerk informed me that my country protested the tax on tea at Boston harbor.

d'oh.

I did much better when I actually visited England. Except I wore a plaid flannel shirt, and so was chastised for that. Who knew?
 
2002-07-11 10:55:13 AM  
I'm in full agreement with Zchamu. Competition is something that can be taken to an unhealthy extreme and too often is. I personally feel that Redbird is a good example of this.
 
2002-07-11 10:56:51 AM  
"I personally would rather see, say, a hockey game left at a tie, than force them to play into the wee hours of the morning til someone makes a mistake and the other team wins. That's not letting the best team win"

Yes it is finding out who the best team is.
It is finding out:
Who has conditioned and prepared themselves better.
Who is able to stay more focused.
Who is able to put their mind over matter.
Who coached the best, so that the team would be prepared for this set of events.
 
2002-07-11 10:56:56 AM  
I reckon that I've p*ssed enough of you off for one day so I'm leaving. Bye, bye.
Oh, and don't call me when the German-led EU sends it's jack-booted thugs into your neighborhood.
 
2002-07-11 10:57:03 AM  
if you agree with this guy, move to england.
mlb owners and players deserve selig.
 
2002-07-11 10:57:10 AM  
In other news, rational discourse on the day's events continues at fark.com...
 
2002-07-11 10:57:31 AM  
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2002-07-11 10:57:40 AM  
LOL @ Marantz... btw, nice commie dog!
 
2002-07-11 10:58:25 AM  
Zoomtown I don't want the 'freedom' to carry a gun. If I can carry one, anyone can carry one. You're significantly more likely to be shot in the US than Europe. You can keep that freedom.

Not sure I understood the rest of you're argument.
 
2002-07-11 10:58:52 AM  
"Competition is something that can be taken to an unhealthy extreme and too often is. I personally feel that Redbird is a good example of this."

You can feel how you want to Marantz. I feel that playing to a conclusion just shows who is better prepared for the contest.
 
2002-07-11 10:59:52 AM  
Am I the only one that's ok with the All Star game tie? I didn't want to see Freddy Garcia pitch another inning. I want to see him healthy for the rest of the year so my Mariners can get past those damned Yankees.
 
2002-07-11 11:01:05 AM  
Raging: Again going on about a war that happened before the majority of today's populations where born. Still relevant, but it's not like you were the only country there.
 
2002-07-11 11:01:31 AM  
It is finding out:
Who has conditioned and prepared themselves better.
Who is able to stay more focused.
Who is able to put their mind over matter.
Who coached the best, so that the team would be prepared for this set of events.


Man, you must be one hell of a hockey parent.

"If you lose, you're out of the family" - Homer Simpson
 
2002-07-11 11:03:00 AM  
Pope_Urban:

I agree that they should have called that game off.
What I don't agree with is MLB's short-sightedness to see that this was a possibility, and have plans in place to deal with it.

Both managers treated this "contest" as an exhibition game...ie: "get everyone in the game". I have a problem with that. Make the game worth something, and then you will get some meaningful play.

Why did I need to see Benito Santiago up to bat in the bottom of the 11th? Why the hell was Benito even AT THE GAME??? Where was Paul LoDuca??
 
2002-07-11 11:05:34 AM  
"Man, you must be one hell of a hockey parent. "

I'm not much of a hockey fan (they end some of their games in ties as well! ;-)

Be very careful about equating my feelings toward how a contest should be concluded to how I raise my children - or any other aspect of my life.
 
2002-07-11 11:05:50 AM  
FYI baseball sucks. Most boring game on Earth. Granted, I had to grow up watching the Pirates so maybe that has something to do with my distaste.
 
2002-07-11 11:08:24 AM  
"Most boring game on Earth."

Not by a long shot... Socer/Futbol gets that distinction.
 
2002-07-11 11:08:40 AM  
Zchamu: thanks. I'm still not entirely sure about him. hehe
 
2002-07-11 11:08:57 AM  
Hockey is a fine sport. When it gets to the playoffs there are no ties. You keep playing until there is a winner. It get to the point where the iron men of the game will win.

I have had enough of baseball. I love the game. It has just gotten to the point where it is just filled with greedy owners and players that only care about the money. I just can't watch anymore.
 
2002-07-11 11:09:47 AM  
Baseball is ok. But after Toronto won 2 years in a row, I was satisfied, so I stopped watching.
 
2002-07-11 11:11:54 AM  
that was an amusing article. And my teeth are just fine thanks.
 
2002-07-11 11:12:54 AM  
(ice)Hockey and basketball are ok (american)football isn't even too bad.... but baseball sucks.
 
2002-07-11 11:13:18 AM  
Marantz310 - "Oh, and I understand that the revolution is still important to your country,....."

Don't look now, but the revolution is still important to the rest of the world, I mean the US being the ONLY sustained free republic in the history of the world and all. We are the model for the rest of the world to emulate. England certainly isn't. The revolution killed your (and everybody elses') monarchy, and set the tone for all of your other colonies to revolt, thereby bringing about the end of the "British Empire". I'd say "the revolution" rocked England's world fairly well.

And this from the country who leads the world in soccer hooliganism.
 
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