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2006-10-02 05:49:00 PM
From the last meal link:

"Chocolate birthday cake with "2/23/90" written on top, seven pink candles, one coconut, kiwi fruit juice, pineapple juice, one mango, grapes, lettuce, cottage cheese, peaches, one banana, one delicious apple, chef salad without meat and with thousand island dressing, fruit salad, cheese, and tomato slices"

Those first two make me think this fellow had a thing for the children. Kinda creepy. I like the delicious apple though.

/anti-capital punishment
//cares about victims and their families too
 
2006-10-02 05:49:08 PM
Guy Named Ed
As for the humanity part, you are kidding, right?

I feel that the last meal, and days leading up to it, are time for humanity. Once appeals run out and finality is ensured, human judgement ends. One might still be innocent, but their fate on Earth is decided. God's unerring judgement awaits them at that point, many people believe. As mere mortals our job, done correctly or not, is done. While there are perhaps things worse than death, I feel death is sufficient.

Besides, how torturous would it be to be guilty, professing innocence, and be executed with respect? Or instead what if they simply have no conscience or emotion left in their soul? Then any inhumane treatment would not make them any more sorry or remorseful.

That's what I think anyway.
 
2006-10-02 05:49:38 PM
Haha... this article makes me realize these people are humans too. This shows even the scum of the earth can fool us into pitying them. GAS EM!
 
2006-10-02 05:51:34 PM
The poor victim didn't get to make a cute joke about quitting smoking before he or she got it.
 
2006-10-02 05:54:22 PM
I really don't think the purpose of the article was to make us feel sympathy for convicted muderers.

I for one found it quite fascinating.

I recall once reading a book called "Eyewitness History" that was truly amazing. The book is made entirely from translated documents from people's own journals and personal writings going back several centuries. Many of the most interesting stories were from people who witnessed some of the worst horrible events from history including deaths and executions. The way in which people acted and spoke was so much different than how you would expect.
 
2006-10-02 05:57:02 PM
Actually, now that I see they have offender information, the guy who wanted the chocolate birthday cake with the seven pink candles more likely than not had a young daughter and thus this request was reasonable and appropriate. I am a bad person.

/sorry dude
 
2006-10-02 05:57:26 PM
Wait till I finish my Saratoga.

www.americancigaretteshop.com
 
2006-10-02 05:57:31 PM
Really cool article; although i'm not entirely convinced it was completely unbiased. Still, an interesting read.
 
2006-10-02 05:59:39 PM
meh, if i was an hour away from dying i'd be smoking 20 packs at the same time, nothing but smoke! for an hour straight! then i'd eat all the lard and greasy pizza my stomach could handle, then i'd cut a finger off JUST BECAUSE I CAN

i mean, why not? (unless they decided to abort the execution)
 
2006-10-02 06:01:14 PM
Actually, he did have one last smoke after that.

/bzzzzt!
 
2006-10-02 06:01:44 PM
I have to say, all kidding aside, that was a very well-written article.
 
2006-10-02 06:02:25 PM
Oh...and don't get me started on the "not-guilty by means of insanity" plea. That turns me completely ape-sh!t.

Insanity defense is one of the oldest defenses in Anglo-American justice system. What do you have against it?

You think someone having a seizure while driving should be treated like someone who shot a bank customer during a robbery?
 
2006-10-02 06:03:23 PM
Okay, last one.

Now that I have more thorougly checked the report, I see the chocolate bithday cake w/seven pink candles guy has been in jail way too long to have a victim or a daughter born in 1990, barring a conjugal visit or something which I guess is possible, but I don't really know the rules for that sort of thing, so I have no idea.

I'm reading way too much into these things. Good reminder for me to not jump to conclusions. Regardless, I = idiot today.

/that's all
 
2006-10-02 06:03:26 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
"I'd ask for the world's rarest truffle. Then while they were searching for it, I'd tunnel my way to freedom. Of course, then I'd miss eating the world's rarest truffle. Quite the quandary."

AladinSane:
Isn't it interesting that the people who oppose the death penalty seem to usually harbor two EXACTLY OPPOSITE points of view:

1: That the Death Penalty is "barbaric" and "inhuman",
and
2: That they support life imprisionment because it's "worse" than execution.

Make up your minds, guys. Which is it? Are you opposed to the death penalty because it's cruel, or because it's not cruel enough?


Some people oppose the death penalty because it's cruel and some DIFFERENT people oppose the death penalty because it "isn't cruel enough." (Do you have any examples of an individual arguing that BOTH of those statements are true?) Yeah, people sometimes agree on something for completely different reasons. What's your point? That the anti-death penalty people should spend all of their time arguing amongst themselves instead of trying to reach their common goal?

But really, who the hell cares whether or not the death penalty is cruel? Our legal system isn't perfect and sometimes innocent people are convicted. Since 1973, 123 death row inmates have been exonerated. DNA evidence alone has exonerated at least 14 people.

An innocent person with a life sentence can be released from prison. But if the government executes someone, and then later finds out that he was innocent, then the government has done a horrible, horrible thing.
 
2006-10-02 06:08:58 PM
Holy Crap

Two 16 oz. ribeyes, one lb. turkey breast (sliced thin), twelve strips of bacon, two large hamburgers with mayo, onion, and lettuce, two large baked potatoes with butter, sour cream, cheese, and chives, four slices of cheese or one-half pound of grated cheddar cheese, chef salad with blue cheese dressing, two ears of corn on the cob, one pint of mint chocolate chip ice cream, and four vanilla Cokes or Mr. Pibb

and the following ewwwww

Triple meat cheeseburger with fried bun and everything, French fries, ketchup, four pieces of chicken (two legs and two thighs), and one fried pork chop sandwich

The last guy was obviously trying to kill himself before he hit the chair lol
 
2006-10-02 06:10:04 PM
Manfred
Thats a completely moronic argument. I'm refering too a bat-crazy mother who drowns 5 of her children, then gets off due to "insanity" and will be walking the street in 10 years, instead of spending the rest of her pathetic worthless life in prison, or better yet, shortening her pathetic worthless life by a state mandated execution.

THAT is what drives me ape-sh!t.
 
2006-10-02 06:14:15 PM
2006-10-02 06:03:26 PM Confoundit
"An innocent person with a life sentence can be released from prison. But if the government executes someone, and then later finds out that he was innocent, then the government has done a horrible, horrible thing."

To add to Confoundit's remark we need to consider:
Should to gov't ever have the right to kill its own citizens? Why should anyone grant their gov't the right to decide if they live or die?
 
2006-10-02 06:14:41 PM
brandxler


"either those curtains go or i do"

- oscar wilde


That is so far removed from the correct quote you're not misquoting - just lying.
 
2006-10-02 06:18:21 PM
www.uploadfile.info

Who here can honestly say that this individual deserves to continue breathing, leaving in protective isolation? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bernardo for our non-Canadian friends
 
2006-10-02 06:19:42 PM
Oops, that should be living in protective isolation.....
 
2006-10-02 06:19:52 PM
I think everyone here should post what they would have for a last meal. Mine would be:

- 2 Grilled cajun chicken breasts on a large bed of mixed greens topped with mixed berries (blueberries, raspberries, cranberries and strawberries), real bacon bits, Parmisean cheese and a balsamic vinigerette.
- 4 peices of italian pan bread with more Balsamic vinigerette.
- Whatever is left in the pack of bacon after they make the bacon bits cooked extra crispy and served on its own
- Lemon Merangue Pie
- Spongecake with canned strawberries and coolwhip
- 2 cans of coke or pepsi (ice cold)
- 2 cans of pineapple juice. (ice cold)
- 2 cigarettes
 
2006-10-02 06:21:23 PM
From Grandemadaca's link:

Inmate # 271: Two 16 oz. ribeyes, one lb. turkey breast (sliced thin), twelve strips of bacon, two large hamburgers with mayo, onion, and lettuce, two large baked potatoes with butter, sour cream, cheese, and chives, four slices of cheese or one-half pound of grated cheddar cheese, chef salad with blue cheese dressing, two ears of corn on the cob, one pint of mint chocolate chip ice cream, and four vanilla Cokes or Mr. Pibb.

Holy shiat.
 
2006-10-02 06:26:05 PM
FTFA:
Victims' advocate Nancy Ruhe regrets that those who were murdered couldn't have a similar diary of their last hours.

I completely understand her sentiment, but I still don't like the idea of a government that executes its citizens.

I'd rather see them turn Manhattan Island into a maximum security prison for all those who would otherwise be put to death.
 
2006-10-02 06:28:06 PM
NeedlesslyCanadian: cornreaper
As far as I'm concerened, as soon as you willingly harm another human being in any way for any reason except for self-defense or the defense of another person, then you forfiet all of your rights, and society is no longer the place for you.

Really. So a person who is convicted and incarcerated presents a threat to the state or other people?

If the state willingly harms/executes other human beings, does that mean it forfeits its rights and I don't have to listen to it anymore?



Golf clap!
 
2006-10-02 06:28:08 PM
I completely understand her sentiment, but I still don't like the idea of a government that executes its citizens.

Well, our government and the rest of society don't like citizens who murder other citizens. Majority rules.
 
2006-10-02 06:28:16 PM
Breakfast for dinner.

- 3 sunny side up eggs
- 6 sheets of toast to soak up all that yolky goodness
- half a package of maple-flavoured bacon
- 6 sausage patties
- More homefries than I could possibly eat
- 2 giant blueberry pancakes with real maple syrup and butter
- a can of brown beans. Maple-flavoured of course
- Tropicana pulp-free OJ
- A bowl of Shreddies with brown sugar
- A pack of smokes. I haven't smoked in 2 years, but hey, who cares at this point?
 
2006-10-02 06:31:18 PM
CommonSenseSurrenders

Well, our government and the rest of society don't like citizens who murder other citizens. Majority rules.

I'm going to have to disagree with the bit in bold.

And if Majority Rules worked for religion, you'd be Muslim right now. Right?
 
2006-10-02 06:33:20 PM
should have given him an exploding cigarette. Problem solved.
 
2006-10-02 06:34:12 PM
JMel

Manfred
Thats a completely moronic argument. I'm refering too a bat-crazy mother who drowns 5 of her children, then gets off due to "insanity" and will be walking the street in 10 years, instead of spending the rest of her pathetic worthless life in prison, or better yet, shortening her pathetic worthless life by a state mandated execution.


You might be surprised to know that there is no underlying logical difference between that mother and the dude with epilepsy.

The point of insanity defense is that we are not fully in control of our faculties all the time.
 
2006-10-02 06:34:27 PM
Odd that no one considers the fallibility of the justice system w/ regard to the death penalty.

I'm all for the death penalty - as long as I personally gets to decide who lives and who dies. You see, I'm not a moral coward. I don't ask the State to make life and death decisions in my name. I don't want a single innocent person killed by the State for my sake while I sit back and say "well I didn't do it". Nosirree, if someone's going to be wrongly executed, I'd rather that it was because I made a mistake - not because some beuarocrat misfiled papers or some underpaid court assigned lawyer fell asleep.

Innocent people get executed. If you are not OK with that, you should be against the death penalty. If you are OK with that, you are sick sick sick, and you sure can't call yourself a conservative.
 
2006-10-02 06:35:20 PM
CommonSenseSurrenders: Well, our government and the rest of society don't like citizens who murder other citizens. Majority rules.

Not necessarily. We live in a constitutional republic, which means that the majority doesn't always rule. And some might argue that executions violate the 8th amendment.
 
2006-10-02 06:36:02 PM
Surf and Turf.

-12 oz. Filet cooked rare
-12 Shrimp (scampi style)
-1 whole steamed Lobster
-6 crab legs
-12 oysters on the halfshell, 12 crackers, cocktail sauce, and 6 lemon slices
-Salmon and Tuna Shashimi
-Blached asparagus, sauteed spinach(in garlic) and some Edamame Beans(heated and salted)
-Garlic Mashed Potatoes
-Pitcher of plain Iced Tea, with about 2 more sliced lemons, and a straw
-a pack of smokes
 
2006-10-02 06:40:20 PM
God are cigarettes that addictive that you'd all want them in your last meal?
 
2006-10-02 06:40:28 PM
Oh noes! I forgot the melted garlic butter to dip the lobster and crab legs in!
 
2006-10-02 06:46:31 PM
Boobies!!!
The only people who deserve to die are women who ride with Ted Kennedy, Laura Bush's ex-boyfriends, old people who hunt with Dick Cheney, Vince Foster, and people who use the term "bleeding heart liberals."

Damn that needs to be on a t-shirt!
 
2006-10-02 06:46:31 PM
"Your last meal?"

"I wanna eat pussy..."

/Odd...
 
2006-10-02 06:47:31 PM
I wonder how many bleeding heart liberals change their views on the death penality the moment that somebody very close to them is brutally murdered.

Or how many pro-death conservatives would if someone close to them was wrongfully executed.


HA! In your face!
 
2006-10-02 06:50:31 PM
cornreaper
Who here can honestly say that this individual deserves to continue breathing, leaving in protective isolation? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bernardo for our non-Canadian friends

I will. Under no circumstances should the state hold the power to choose who lives and who dies.
 
2006-10-02 06:53:18 PM
untrustworthy

And some might argue that executions violate the 8th amendment.

Because nobody involved with writing the Constitution or the Bill of Rights ever supported the death penalty, right?
 
2006-10-02 07:04:04 PM
Johnny the Man: Because nobody involved with writing the Constitution or the Bill of Rights ever supported the death penalty, right?

I don't know the specific beliefs of our founding fathers on the subject, but I think a quick glance at the company we keep might illustrate its "humanity".

home.comcast.net
 
2006-10-02 07:11:58 PM
thedarkshadow

Only an idiot feels the slightest bit of empathy for these muderers.


No, only someone in a similar situation as the murderer would feel empathy. However, sympathy is easier to come by. I would feel sympathy, and I would want them to have some small comfort in their last days just before I let their execution proceed.

When you see a Crime punished, you may be inwardly Pleased; but always shew Pity to the Suffering Offender.
 
2006-10-02 07:12:59 PM
untrustworthy

A picture is worth a thousand words, and at least 500 four-letter words.
 
2006-10-02 07:21:38 PM
Save Tookie, right? Whatever influence you Liberals ever had was lost in the fight to save that guy. Yes, lets save him, but abort unborn babies.

/not conservative neither.
 
2006-10-02 07:22:27 PM
If I was on death row I'd try to get some crack or heroin smuggled in.

Come to think of it, when my time comes, I'm gonna smoke a fat bongload of crack cocaine and then pump a solid $100 worth of heroin into my arm. With death being imminent, I'd be foolish not to.

/drugs are bad, mmkay?
//unless you're hours from oblivion
 
2006-10-02 07:25:20 PM
T.rex

If men gave birth abortion would be a sacrament.
 
2006-10-02 07:25:40 PM
untrustworthy

I've always thought it is better for our laws to be determined by Americans rather than Europeans (or other foreign nationals), but maybe that's just me.

In either case, it has little to do with the 8th Amendment.
 
2006-10-02 07:32:33 PM
God damnit, I forgot to post my firewood.

Wouldn't it be worse knowing for years and years that you will be killed, than to be aware of your death for the duration of a crime? A few minutes of extreme suffering versus years of moderate. Unless the magnitude equal to extreme is actually thousands of times higher than that of moderate, I fail to see how this wouldn't constitute unusual punishment (that being greater than an eye for an eye). Or are our laws still based off the belief that death itself is punishment instead of everything before death?
 
2006-10-02 07:32:54 PM
"Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement."

-Gandalf.


Reading this article made me feel more than ever that the death penalty is wrong. These people did horrible things, and have demonstrated that they canot be trusted with freedom. But to think that anyone, especially the government, should get to decide if these human lives should be extinguished- completely erased from existence- is beyond ridiculous. The death penaly has no place in civilized society.
 
2006-10-02 07:34:00 PM
untrustworthy, any diagrams that break the "legal form of punishment..." group down more precisely? Lumping them all together seems awfully presumptuous. I wouldn't group together the countries that, say, execute for an ounce of pot or so-called "seditious" speech and those that do it for first-degree murder.
 
2006-10-02 07:36:37 PM
mistergecko, thank you! It's about time! This is why the system needs to change. It should be, "...condemned to die, execution to be carried out in 15 minutes".
 
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