What people don't realize is that while global warming might raise the tide by a few feet (but not the 20+ feet the scare-mongers claim), and lose you some of that expensive coastline, it also puts a lot more water in the air and increases rainfall, shrinking the size of the deserts and making land there more livable. Deserts grow during -cold- periods, not -warm- periods, oddly enough.

In reply to the original post, Gore's a moron. I'm sure the story is genuine, Drudge doesn't have a history of lying. It's why Drudge Report is the #1 news site.

Yes, I get all my news from right-wing loony sites! This is downright retarded.

I'm guessing that the standards to become Fark admin have regrettably fallen pretty damn low. Perhaps we could also have a link to a web site featuring the Protocols of the Elders of Zion linked up on the front page, with a "breaking news" tag?

graveleye: isnt it funny how Gores fans have forgotten about perhaps one of the sharpest attacks on free speech was started by Tipper?

Oh, I haven't forgotten. I have forgiven, but not forgotten. But it has nothing to do with Al's message.

Sounds like TOTALLY MADE UP news to me.

/in other news... Courtney Love voted "Sexiest Woman Alive" by People Magazine

So, who's the dumbass: Drudge or Gore?

isnt it funny how Gores fans have forgotten about perhaps one of the sharpest attacks on free speech was started by Tipper?

I really hope you're not talking about parental advisories on music. Because if you are, then you're a moron. At the time, I could understand the argument that the labels may hurt sales, thereby causing artists to censor themselves in order to sell more records, but looking back now, that clearly hasn't happened. Music is more explicit than ever, and the labels hurt absolutely no one, and allow parents a tool to see if the music is appropriate for their children. How does this hurt free speech?

If you're talking about something else, I apologize, and please enlighten us.

Why is Al Gore still opening his noise hole? He already got what he wanted.

/Links to Happy Al pic.

graveleye: isnt it funny how Gores fans have forgotten about perhaps one of the sharpest attacks on free speech was started by Tipper?

No funnier than the fact that Kerry's fans forget that he wrote much of the Patriot Act, and voted for it.

Or that Bush's fans forget that he pretended he was a conservative when he was running.

but guys, it was on a site called 'libertypost'. If you don't believe it as fact, you hate freedom. so in conclusion, stop being a terrorist.

/in rush we trust

Cue the creationists global warming deniers.

the_god_ninti: pguy40: Is it going to kill someone? I don't think 2 degrees hotter is going to do that, so whats the big fuss?

A degree or two globably would have dire consequences for many people, and not just those subject to the impact of rising sea levels. Consider how climate change might effect precipitation. What impact does periodic drought have on countries with insufficient food supplies? Or think about disease; there are many populated areas where a relatively slight change in climate could introduce new vectors for malarial epidemics. In Africa there is a delicate balance between rainfall and agricultural practices; the tse-tse fly (the vector for sleeping sickness) only thrives on one side of the 10mm isohet, which runs across Africa's waist. People there have adopted two species of cattle (ndama and zebu) according to where they live; only one species is immune to sleeping sickness. If the precipitation regime changes dramatically and the 10mm line drifts south, cattle die, people starve, and then the starving people get bitten by the expanding tse-tse fly population and die.

Of course, that's in Africa, so most Americans won't give a rat's ass.

Ahh, NewsMax:
'men: hate rejection by women? discover forbidden attraction secrets the liberal media does not want you to know'

'sneaky way to make money'

'don't try to get your body into shape until you read this'

The ad demographics just say it all

Is this all Drudge has to counter his Republican pedophile scandal?

Over at National Review they're skeptical that he actually said this...

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDMwOGNkZjBkNzY0YWM2YTgzYjc5NzY0ZTg4O TM5NTI=


Re: Gore [Iain Murray]

I should add I'm personally skeptical that Gore actually said this. I think it may be a confused rendition of George Monbiot's crackpot theory that Big Tobacco is behind global warming skepticism. George needs to realize that Big Tobacco is too busy entering into deals to fleece its customers to fund Big Government...
Posted at 12:53 PM


It sounds like a pretty blatantly stupid of a thing for someone to say, so I'd have to agree that this will likely turn out to be a misquote of some kind.

All the "Drudge is teh ev1ls!!1111!!!1!!" kids make baby Jeebus cry, though... Drudge's site isn't perfectly accurate - but neither are the more "respectable" news sources. In fact, I'd be willing to wager that they are at least roughly equivalent in terms of accuracy.

bdub77: Is it just me or are the morons out in force today on the internets?

It's a day ending in 'Y', my friend.

Liberals disagree!

Sloth_DC
No funnier than the fact that Kerry's fans forget that he wrote much of the Patriot Act, and voted for it.

Or that Bush's fans forget that he pretended he was a conservative when he was running.

Well played, sir.

"significant"

in science for something to be statistically significant it can be very, very small.

Hoaxes are colliding...

mongbiohazard: Drudge's site isn't perfectly accurate

People who think this is an indictment of the site might want to look up what "drudge" means.

I just came to the thread to watch the hyperventilating dems act defensively. And man, did this thread deliver! They even pulled out all the stops and used HUGE RED TEXT and FLASHING KLAXONS! As if that can take back what Gore said, and has said.

Well, at least he didn't say that smoking WEED causes Global Warming.

/Al Gore has a huge WEENER.
//That's why donkies love him:)

Oooh, looks like another ghey Republican is resigning....

DEVELOPING.....

let's see, using farkII's numbers i get cigarettes release 0.32 metric tonnes of CO2 per year... let's assume there are 600 million automobiles in the world (because i like easy math) and that they travel 60 mph 18 hours a day on average. that yields 648,000 million miles (~1 trillion kilometers). the worst emissions allowed by california emissions (european emissions are harsher than american) are 0.01 grams/mile (a confusing unit to say the least) and not even all of that is greenhouse gases, but let's assume they are... then you get the easy number of 6480 metric tonnes of carbon dioxide.. meaning cars emit 20000 times the carbon dioxide of cigarettes in one year. feel free to do the math yourself if you don't like my numbers especially since i was hand-waving and picking random figures whenever i felt like it.

Invent stories to distract from Foley... wag the dog. wag the dog.

"to who ever can solve this golbal warming issue goes this bag of precious moon saphires"

quote form Al Gore's head

the_god_ninti

well, in the past 100 years, the average temperature has increased by less than .6 degrees. so if it takes another hundred years to go up another .6 degrees, so what.

I know they believe that the relationship is exponential rather than linear-- but why?

while a rise by 2 degrees is certainly scary, has anyone considered what 6 degrees would do?

He's fat

even better is if the quote is from Al Gores head

I can't find anything online that says Gore spoke before the U.N. yesterday, or anytime recently.

???

I love the lack of sources in that 'report.' :\

Gore showed computer-generated projections of ocean water rushing in to submerge the San Francisco Bay Area, New York City, parts of China, India and other nations, should ice shelves in Antarctica or Greenland melt and slip into the sea.

I fail to see why Global Warming is such a bad thing, he just stated the entire case for it! Go buy an SUV, crank up the AC and go for a road trip to the mountains!

Also farkII do you believe everything the TV tells you? It irritates me when people don't reaserach both sides of the coin, and it irritates me that only programs designed to prove Global Warming are the only ones that get funding. My opinion on the matter is that the climate fluxuates over the years, drillings from the ice caps show long periods of drought come before each ice age.

god you people are idiots.

look at the quote:
Cigarette smoking is a "significant contributor to global warming!"

note how that's constructed. the quotes are around 'significant contributor to global warming!'

you know what that means? it's been put together. out of context.

note how the rest of the "article" doesn't mention this or back it up at all. if he really, really said that, you'd think there'd be a bit more, wouldn't you?

i repeat, god you people are idiots.

go to school. pay attention. learn to think critically. calm the fark down.

2006-09-29 03:42:14 PM Cyberluddite [TotalFark]

Can anybody find this alleged quote in a real news story?

...If Gore really said this, and if he said this in the context that Drudge claims, I'm going to have to see it from a real source.



Real source?

You mean... like

the New York Times? Jason Blair

Reuters? Photoshopped images

CBS? RatherGate



Oh yeah... I see your point!

A.D.M

the time to buy some land in Canada or antarctica is NOW!

The ultimate solution to Global Warming:
Harness the spin created by Matt Drudge to turn non-polluting electric turbines. Alternatly, the expanding of his hot air should also work, if tying Matt to a mechanical linkage seems too politically incorrect...

A.D.: Also farkII do you believe everything the TV tells you?

Given that I don't watch TV, I guess not. I have, however, read a fair bit of the meanstream scientific literature on climate change. Is that ever on TV?

j0ndas:
What people don't realize is that while global warming might raise the tide by a few feet (but not the 20+ feet the scare-mongers claim), and lose you some of that expensive coastline, it also puts a lot more water in the air and increases rainfall, shrinking the size of the deserts and making land there more livable.

I don't think your estimate of a few feet matches the science, but you know, you are probably partly right, there will probably be more livable land if the temperature goes up. But you miss a lot of important points. One problem is that the weather will be more energetic, which also means more chaotic and random. That will translate into more destructive storms interspersed with longer droughts. There is no doubt New Orleans and Florida have been getting more rain, but that has hardly been a good thing.

Drudge doesn't have a history of lying.

That's a joke, right? You seemed so reasonable before that line. Still wrong, but at least reality based.

HotWingConspiracy

Yes I have given it quite a bit of thought.

If the oceans rose 1 foot tomorrow, coastal cities would be farked.

Now our government will tell us that this sort of thing will destroy the national economy, utterly and irrevocably, unless they institute national bailout plans to artificially prop up the economy until it can recover*. Every single one of us, who doesn't live on the coast will pay for it of course.

So yeah, it will have terrible consequences.

It is my stance that the "caveots" have no capability to be wary, because someone else is doing all the thinking for them. Now lets hope that if oceans do rise, coastal cites undergo reengineering by private capital(no IMF shiat please) and beautiful and verdant Venice's are the standard for 2106.

* No fake influx of $$ has rarely helped a market to recover, only hurt it. Hong Kong got 0$ from the Marshall reconstruction plan, and it became a free marked god, while the beneficiaries were dismal failures.

veedeevadeevoodee

"Yar! I'd plunder her booty!"

Ms.Maus: I can't find anything online that says Gore spoke before the U.N. yesterday

The NewsMax article references a party attended by UN officials, not a UN appearance. Or whatever.

So, anyone going to get outraged over any other Drudge headlines today?
...Straw Blames U.S. for 'Dire' Situation in Iraq
...Abramoff Had Open Door at White House
...Woodward: Bush Misleading on Iraq
...250,000 Iraqis Flee Sectarian Violence
...More Trouble for Senator Macaca (84 comments)

Sloth_DC:

B) That article makes the same point I was making: Idiots who say Gore claimed to "invent the Internet" are just as sloppy and retarded as idiots who say Gore's statement was 100% factually accurate and please stop ragging him for it.

2006-09-29 04:22:43 PM Sloth_DC [TotalFark]

Tertius: BTW, Gore never said he invented the internet either.

No, he said he "took the initiative in creating the Internet." Let's see, Internet went online in 1969, Al Gore started "taking the initiative in creating the Internet" ~1987. Hey, you do the math.

From the article:

Any news report that tries to summarize Internet history by dating its origin to the 1960s or the year 1969 is oversimplifying. Such a news report is as sloppy as the statement for which they take Gore to task. (original emphasis)

Yeah, you were totally saying the same thing as the article.

And oh, by the way, the throwaway mention of the Love Story debacle being representative of Gore's tendency for exaggeration was a load of media-contrived horse-pucky as well.

Rubbing sticks together generates heat and possible fire. Both would theoretically contribute to global warming.

You need to prove that the heat generated by rubbing sticks together would permanently (or at least semi-permanently) increase temperatures world-wide.

the_god_ninti: Congratulations, you are 10th person to make that same hilarious joke in this thread. It just gets funnier and funnier every time, you conservatives are truly the master of humor.



Hmmm...so anyone who doesn't like gore is automatically a conservative. Just, I suppose, like how anyone who doesn't like Bush is a liberal.

So where does that leave those of us who don't really care for either?

You poor, silly, stupid child - unchain yourself from your blind dedication to being spoon-fed political agenda and give a shot at thinking for yourself.

Fark This!: The ultimate solution to Global Warming:
Harness the spin created by Matt Drudge

Nah - he spins both ways, and presumably the rotational forces would cancel each other out.