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(Houston Chronicle)   Bush signs executive order allowing Hispanics to join the Army to become citizens.   (chron.com) divider line 119
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2002-07-07 12:47:09 AM
Bush was also held at gunpoint to sign this said executive order.....well most likely:)
 
2002-07-07 12:47:26 AM
Very cool.
 
2002-07-07 12:47:29 AM
hmmm somebody wants the hispanic vote (i think this is gunna be my first time being the Boobies)
 
2002-07-07 12:48:18 AM
Walk--

Bush is the only president ever to take a direct interest in the INS, and it was before 9-11. I know this because I work at INS now.
 
2002-07-07 12:48:38 AM
dammit i was 3rd, ok why does it say "i think this is gunna be my first time being booobies?" it was supposed to say i think this is gunna be my first time being the first vote-er.
 
2002-07-07 12:48:57 AM
Anythhing to get elected *legitimately* next time.
 
2002-07-07 12:49:25 AM
Yeah maybe they won't hate his guts quite as much. Oh wait, Bush would actually have to give a shiat about hispanics for that to happen.
 
2002-07-07 12:53:49 AM
That's how my friends dad became a citizen, but he is Italian and it was during the Korean war. I know the Italian part has nothing to do with it, but.......ah fark it I need more liquor.
 
2002-07-07 12:54:44 AM
I think this is a good idea. We should be inforcing our immigration laws and booting out everyone that enters the country illegally. THose that want to come in but want to hurry the process by doing military service I am behind 100 percent behind.
 
2002-07-07 12:54:46 AM
i heard some hispanic comedian say the other say something like "Where is Hispania anyway??"

im a hispanic and i thought that was halarious.
 
2002-07-07 12:55:57 AM
Yeah now they can take army jobs away too, great thanks George W.
 
2002-07-07 12:56:05 AM
Yeah we'll let 'em in they kill some people for us first.
 
2002-07-07 12:57:23 AM
I have no problem with this but I know it sounds redneck but extensive English skills should be taught to all non-English/speaking/writing immigrants so a balkaning effect and a commomality to communicate. Not that English is superior but because it is dominant. Do we really want a Quebec mentality? And encourage Spanish in the schools as well, and over the years I've learned all the cuss words.
*ducks*
 
2002-07-07 12:57:38 AM
Not sure they army can handle the job of teaching 100,000 mexican immigrants english.
 
2002-07-07 12:59:36 AM
Operation Hide Behind The Mexicans?
 
2002-07-07 01:00:23 AM
So "as to prevent" And it wouldn't be a bad idea to teach English to the locals as well to one obvious Texas as well.
 
2002-07-07 01:02:07 AM
Texas=Texan=me. Fark I give up. Se habla espanol.
 
2002-07-07 01:04:19 AM
haha Yossarian I love it.
 
2002-07-07 01:04:48 AM
Ibz270-There's Hispaniola,which is the island that Haiti and the Dominican Republic share.Maybe that's it?

I guess this is a good idea,so long as they there aren't any special privileges given,such as affirmative action or bilingual training.People may want to watch out,though-with all this talk about invading Iraq,La Prez may be trying to create an army of "expendables" and swell the forces,to avoid a potentially major(and unpopular)draft.
 
2002-07-07 01:06:21 AM
"Service Guarantees Citizenship"
-Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers
 
2002-07-07 01:07:06 AM
I applaud whoever told Bush to do this.
 
2002-07-07 01:09:30 AM
Am I the only one who thinks it is a bad idea to invite aliens to serve in the military in exchange for citizenship?

Not mention a ploy meant to garner votes, not necessarily help the nation as a whole.
 
2002-07-07 01:09:33 AM
ˇYo Quiero Taco Bell!
 
2002-07-07 01:10:04 AM
Yo-Yo: That was hilarious!
 
2002-07-07 01:11:10 AM
This is cool
 
2002-07-07 01:11:16 AM
mods change the phrase fi-rst p0st to "boobies"! what fun.

test:

Boobies
 
2002-07-07 01:12:11 AM
haha it worked! Yay for filters
 
2002-07-07 01:12:43 AM
this is great news for terrorist, since most look like mexicans. the terrorists can go to mexico, get a free ride over here, and some more buildings go down. great job, bush
 
2002-07-07 01:13:31 AM
Logan5: That was exactly what I first thought when I read this.
 
2002-07-07 01:13:49 AM
mexicans look like terrorists? what the fark?
 
2002-07-07 01:14:08 AM
I don't think there's anything more malicious behind this than Bush desperately trying to win some brownie points (NO pun intended) with the hispanics. And I don't think it's a bad idea overall - someone wants to be an American badly enough that they'll risk getting their ass shot off for their adopted country to get an early citizenship, more power to 'em.

No need to go all Heinleinian just yet...
 
2002-07-07 01:14:51 AM
terrorists look like mexicans? fark the what?
 
2002-07-07 01:15:17 AM
grapenutts, look at a picture of a 9/11 hijacker and a picture of a mexican and tell me if you see any big differences
 
2002-07-07 01:16:28 AM
ok. lets prove this theory...someone post the pics.
 
2002-07-07 01:17:12 AM
Granted the 9/11 hijackers were arab and did perhaps look hispanic, and chances are that any future attack will be carried out by the same kind of people, but you do realize that there are plenty of other terrorists aren't Arab/Hispanic looking, right?
 
2002-07-07 01:19:21 AM
I'm Hispanic. Specifically, I'm Portuguese. I'm 6 feet tall and white as a ghost.
Mexicans are Mexican, which is a combination of Spaniard and the indigenous peoples of Mexico, Spaniards and Portuguese are Hispanic.
 
2002-07-07 01:19:22 AM
Cool, make the brown people fight the other brown people. Get rid of two republican problems with one stone.
 
2002-07-07 01:20:33 AM
Just look here for pics.

I guess I can see a resembelance in a couple, but not very well.
 
2002-07-07 01:21:01 AM
Logan5: Great quote. Heinlein should have been a founding father. I'm fundamentally against illegal immigration, but if someone wants to get to the head of the line, I think service in the armed forces of this country gives them an express ticket.
 
2002-07-07 01:21:29 AM
hmm. Hope my M4d l337 HTML sk1llz work.
 
2002-07-07 01:21:43 AM
Logan5 wins this round of comments.
 
2002-07-07 01:21:50 AM
I didnt read the article, but that wont stop me from making an uninformed insight. Isnt it wrong to allow benefit to a person based on their specific (not to mention general) race? Or is their a country named Hispania?

i dont get it.
 
2002-07-07 01:21:54 AM
A soldier that is acting as a soldier to get something in return (like citizenship) will do what ever they are told with out thinking about it. They will follow orders without question and will not consider the morality of what they do... because they are getting something that they perceive as worth death in return for it.

Your average US soldier will not slaughter innocents, and if they are told to do something that is blatantly immoral or illegal by a superior officer they will question it. A mercenary (which is what these guys are effectively going to be) doesn't questions the morals or legality of an order... because doing so means they don't get their prize.

Bush will get an army of mercenaries, who will do what ever they are told because they are not fighting for their country's freedom, they are fighting for citizenship.
 
2002-07-07 01:22:10 AM
Code_Archeologist; "Not mention a ploy meant to garner votes, not necessarily help the nation as a whole."

Not any more different than motor votor, instant citizenship for immigrants and other devices those across the aisle have used to improve their voter base.
To be honest, it was how one of my grandfathers from Europe became a US citizen. Right off the boat and chasing Pancho Villa in the Punitive Expedition 1914. I think it's a good idea.
 
2002-07-07 01:22:57 AM
... typo and mix of terms. ive been up too long.

yes i know race has nothing to do with your country.. you get what i mean right?

b00bies.
 
2002-07-07 01:23:19 AM
D'OH! oh well. stupid crappy HTML code i ought to break its neck and step on it an kill it;'s children and get it with an ANAL PEAR!!!! OF DEATH!
 
2002-07-07 01:23:42 AM
Bush is a tard
 
2002-07-07 01:24:56 AM
Code: That's a worse case scenario and has no modern historical basis in the US armed forces.
 
2002-07-07 01:25:19 AM
Service may guarantee citizenship, but will they get the cool powered armor suits.
 
2002-07-07 01:25:45 AM
A mercenary (which is what these guys are effectively going to be) doesn't questions the morals or legality of an order

How do you figure? It's a crime to carry out an illegal order.

Wooo! Go Nuremburg Trials, Go!
 
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