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(CBS News)   Congressman Bob Ney (R-OH) flip flops from earlier claims of being not guilty   (wtrf.com) divider line 161
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2006-09-15 09:35:42 AM  
Oh snap! Flipfloppery abounds!
 
2006-09-15 11:55:17 AM  
So he gets 27 months instead of 5 years for each count?

Great, that will scare the bejeezus out of his corrupt coworkers!
 
2006-09-15 11:55:43 AM  
Ah, yes, a minimum 5 year sentence that he is required to serve 27 months of. Nevermind he lied his ass off trying to avoid jailtime in the first place, he's admitting it NOW.
 
2006-09-15 11:56:10 AM  
Plead the FIF!
 
2006-09-15 11:56:58 AM  
z.about.com
 
2006-09-15 11:57:06 AM  
1 down and how many others to go? This is just getting interesting!! Go Feds!

/Can't believe I'm rooting for the Feds
// Can believe Ney is Guilty
/// Never slashied before!!
 
2006-09-15 11:57:31 AM  
I can't explain why, but Ohio is FILLED with neo-con wanna-bes. I know not everyone there is, but WTF??
They all biatch about blue-state Michigan, yet drive here hours for work everyday, and bring their crappy faux-conservative spew with them.

What's wrong with Ohio?
 
2006-09-15 11:58:44 AM  
one two three four FIFTH
 
2006-09-15 11:59:10 AM  
Abramoff:

The elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about.

Scores of GOP congressmen are connected to this guy.
 
2006-09-15 11:59:24 AM  
please
What's wrong with Ohio?

I drove through Ohio once. Reminds me a lot of purgatory, with fields.
 
2006-09-15 11:59:58 AM  
Ney?

NAY!
 
2006-09-15 12:00:22 PM  
Suck it, libs!
 
2006-09-15 12:01:00 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: I drove through Ohio once. Reminds me a lot of purgatory, with fields.

yeah, i drove through ohio for a week one day.
 
2006-09-15 12:01:07 PM  
What was the false statement he made? "I am not guilty"?
 
2006-09-15 12:01:20 PM  
letitbeirie
one two three four FIFTH

What...the President hasn't gotten around to wrecking that one yet?

Then again, I'm sure it's as safe from this administration as the 2nd, considering how much use they get out of it.
 
2006-09-15 12:01:21 PM  
He's history's greatest monster!
 
2006-09-15 12:02:00 PM  
FPMITAP!
 
2006-09-15 12:02:29 PM  
Who's gonna be the first neocon to explain how Democrats took Abrahamov's donations as well*?

*A lie.
 
2006-09-15 12:02:37 PM  

What do you expect from these guys


www.bruner.net

/Going keep happening if the pentalties aren't enforced.

 
2006-09-15 12:03:01 PM  
Cut and RUN!
 
2006-09-15 12:03:29 PM  
SSPinkerton
yeah, i drove through ohio for a week one day.

That was about how it was with me. Land that flat has no business existing...it just screws up the people trying to explain how the world is round...
 
2006-09-15 12:04:42 PM  
Another Friday of bad news for republicans.
 
2006-09-15 12:05:43 PM  
Let's not criminalize criminal behavior here, folks.
 
2006-09-15 12:06:08 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2006-09-15 12:06:09 PM  
If Bush controls the whitehouse and is the chief executive and all of his cronies are in control of the FBI and other federal agencies doing his evil bidding, then why would he allow them to probe into all of these corrupt republican congressmen especially if his inner-circle was also connected?
 
2006-09-15 12:06:19 PM  
the sentencing is not in the hands of the judge, it's pretty rigidly conrolled by the Federal sentencing guidlines. You start with the base level offense and then add aggravating factors and subtract mitigating ones. For a guy with no Priors (-2) who pleads Guilty (-1) 27 months per charge at this level felony sounds just about right.
 
2006-09-15 12:08:32 PM  
27 months? Unless he worked a plea deal this is ridiculous.

Maximum sentence. This isn't like he was stealing bread to feed his family - this is a guy who was on Ohio's payroll and was supposed to be working for them. Now hopefully he gets to work for Bubba.
 
2006-09-15 12:09:01 PM  
MugzyBrown: If Bush controls the whitehouse and is the chief executive and all of his cronies are in control of the FBI and other federal agencies doing his evil bidding, then why would he allow them to probe into all of these corrupt republican congressmen especially if his inner-circle was also connected?

Because people investigating his corrupt congressmen ending up "suicided" would look too suspicious. They've always got somebody to bee the fallguy.
 
2006-09-15 12:10:10 PM  
Deadmeat: 27 months? Unless he worked a plea deal this is ridiculous.

27 months on 46 counts, if I remember what I read yesterday correctly.

/DNRTFA
 
2006-09-15 12:10:17 PM  
Why are some so shocked and appalled that there's a crooked politician in bed with crooked lobbyists?

I'm shocked when they actually get one to admit it or successfully prosecute the offenders.
 
2006-09-15 12:10:23 PM  
cigare1.fatcow.com

/ "Did someone call for me ?"
 
2006-09-15 12:10:50 PM  
"Who's gonna be the first neocon to explain how Democrats took Abrahamov's donations as well*?

*A lie."

You don't give money to people that can't help you, that's just stupid. :-D
 
2006-09-15 12:11:12 PM  
moops : Who's gonna be the first nXeXoXcXoXnX honest person to explain how Democrats took Abrahamov's donations as well*?
*A lie.


Well, sir you are CORRECT - if you only include Abromov's PERSONAL moneys. Which constituted well under 10% of the moneys he was passing out. I guess the several Dems that voluntarily disgorged some of that Abromov-directed-contributions were wrong to worry about taint?

Tell us again how Jack A. was such a powerful and connected lobbyist because his job was to pass out only his own, personal fortune in return for political "considerations", whydoncha?
 
2006-09-15 12:11:46 PM  
27 months? Unless he worked a plea deal this is ridiculous.

Well, you can bet he worked a plea deal. We'll see if he's useful as bait to catch bigger fish. One can only hope.

/turtles all the way down
//fish all the way up
 
2006-09-15 12:11:58 PM  
Howie_Feltersnatch:

Because people investigating his corrupt congressmen ending up "suicided" would look too suspicious.

img.slate.com
 
2006-09-15 12:12:01 PM  
Is he a "family values" guy? Did he meet with Abramoff to discuss the bible?
 
2006-09-15 12:12:18 PM  
he plead guilty? well that's just lame, you're supposed to go out with a bang of incomprehensible statements.

beam me up.

i yield back the fact that republicans are no fun.
 
2006-09-15 12:12:27 PM  
Magorn: 27 months per charge at this level felony sounds just about right.

It's 27 months total from what I understand.

And here's what Wiki has to say on the guidelines - primarily that they aren't mandatory. The judge should have sent a message.

Though the Federal Sentencing Guidelines were styled as mandatory, the Supreme Court's 2005 decision in United States v. Booker found that the Guidelines, as originally constituted, violated the Sixth Amendment right to trial by jury, and the remedy chosen was excision of those provisions of the law establishing the Guidelines that made them mandatory standards. In the aftermath of Booker, the Guidelines are discretionary, meaning that judges may consider them but are not required to adhere to their standards in sentencing decisions. That being said, federal judges almost invariably use the Guidelines at least as a starting point when sentencing criminal defendants.
 
2006-09-15 12:13:36 PM  
Horse pepsi OK?
 
2006-09-15 12:14:16 PM  
i42.photobucket.com


"Bob Ney is no crook! I will vouch for this man, on my honor!"
 
2006-09-15 12:14:22 PM  
The Bush Administration is always in the midst of great evil schemes to ruin the country, but cannot quash small investigations into replublican congressmen and contributors?

odd that.
 
2006-09-15 12:20:29 PM  
Ohio tag!
 
2006-09-15 12:20:42 PM  
veedeevadeevoodee: Because people investigating his corrupt congressmen ending up "suicided" would look too suspicious.

Vince Foster.

Cripes.

At long last, have you no decency?
 
2006-09-15 12:20:53 PM  
Submitter is weak
not guilty = prove that i am guilty
guilty = you have enough evidence against me that i wont make you prove it...
not a flip flop
just a smart move.
 
2006-09-15 12:21:21 PM  
i find it amusing that he'll have to remove that horrendous rug before entering prison.

we have so many GOP convicts these days, they need their own prison.
 
2006-09-15 12:22:13 PM  
TexasScout: You don't give money to people that can't help you, that's just stupid. :-D

A vote is a vote.

And a Democratic vote allows you to position your legislation as 'bi-partisan'.

So this talking point is, to put it politely, bunkus.
 
2006-09-15 12:23:32 PM  
2006-09-15 12:14:22 PM MugzyBrown [TotalFark]

The Bush Administration is always in the midst of great evil schemes to ruin the country, but cannot quash small investigations into replublican congressmen and contributors?

odd that.



Drink the Kool-aid. Drink it down. You believe in the Vince Foster conspiracy theory, but don't believe the fact that these congressman have been convicted in the court of law?: Bob Ney, Duke Cunningham, Abramoff. Keep drinking it and repeat "republicans can do no wrong, but democrats do". Does it taste good?
 
2006-09-15 12:24:35 PM  
Deadmeat: 27 months? Unless he worked a plea deal this is ridiculous.

Where do all these politicians and celebrities find all these great plea bargains, anyway!?

/At the plea market?
 
2006-09-15 12:24:43 PM  
MrToast: Ohio tag!

seconded.

Any state that can come up with something as insanely corrupt as 'coingate' deserves its own tag.
 
2006-09-15 12:26:03 PM  
Goodfella,

So what are you talking about?

If you can find one post of mine ever, on any website, that mentions the name Vince Foster, let me know.
 
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