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(Canada.com)   Alberta government okays ethnic slurs on vanity licence plates, as long as it doubles as a term of endearment   (canada.com ) divider line
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2006-09-15 08:13:29 AM  
Hm. It would never have even occurred to me to use the word "Newfie" as an ethnic slur. It sounds too cute and innocuous to be cruel.

Do Australians consider "Aussie" to be a slur?
 
2006-09-15 08:18:46 AM  
So, MY nubian would be fine too?
 
2006-09-15 08:20:26 AM  
...filter.
 
2006-09-15 08:24:28 AM  
That's reasonable. Seventy years ago, people from Oklahoma considered "Okie" a slur, but not anymore.
 
2006-09-15 08:38:57 AM  
What about...

NGGASTLMYBIK
 
2006-09-15 08:47:53 AM  
Newfoundlanders are an ethnic group ? NGGAPLZ
 
2006-09-15 08:52:04 AM  
I doubt it's an ethinic slur... Newfies actually have a sense of humour.
 
2006-09-15 09:00:24 AM  
Pocket Ninja: Hm. It would never have even occurred to me to use the word "Newfie" as an ethnic slur. It sounds too cute and innocuous to be cruel.

Do Australians consider "Aussie" to be a slur?


its not a simple abbreviation, it has history to it. Think "Okie" for the dustbowl victims who streamed into California during the Dust Bowl period looking for jobs. If you've read "Of Mice and Men", that "Okie" wasn't really a "term of endearment", as much as a negative distinction.

But I don't think "Newfoundlander" is an ethnic group, so its a cultural/regional slur, not an ethnic one.
 
2006-09-15 09:09:26 AM  
willywanka

People from Oklahoma are not an ethnic group, either. So "Okie" is also, at worst, a cultural/regional slur.
 
2006-09-15 09:30:49 AM  
I haven't seen this word used as a slur in many years. Of course, I'm not from Newfoundland, so I wouldn't be able to say for sure. My partner, on the other hand, is from Port-au-Port and he does not consider it a slur either.
 
2006-09-15 09:53:22 AM  
You have GOT to be kidding me.

What about 'Canadian' then, is that an ethnic slur too? Or how about 'Irish'? Where does the distinction lie between 'description of birthplace' and 'ethnic slur'?
 
2006-09-15 10:09:22 AM  
EzraS: You have GOT to be kidding me.

What about 'Canadian' then, is that an ethnic slur too? Or how about 'Irish'? Where does the distinction lie between 'description of birthplace' and 'ethnic slur'?


Terms relating to someone's area of origin can be used as slurs. Take, for instance, (Hi)sp(an)ic.
 
2006-09-15 10:10:59 AM  
Pocket Ninja: People from Oklahoma are not an ethnic group, either. So "Okie" is also, at worst, a cultural/regional slur.

yeah, I thought it was wrong to bring up the term "ethnic" at all, as it just confuses the issue (and just as an interesting aside, "Okie" referred to any Dust Bowl CA transplant - they came from all over the midwest...Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, etc - they all just got grouped together under the umbrella term "Okie")

And nowadays I doubt it has any relevance as a slur...though it is interesting that one of the reasons they were looked down upon was that they were seen as interlopers, crossing into California looking for job opportunities, and consequently taking jobs away from Californians who "deserved it more" (sounds like a similar situation we face nowadays, no?)

EzraS: What about 'Canadian' then, is that an ethnic slur too? Or how about 'Irish'? Where does the distinction lie between 'description of birthplace' and 'ethnic slur'?

it depends...if its simply referring to someone's place of birth, then clearly its not a slur. But if it was used in a region outside of someone's native land to distinguish locals from transplants, then it has more complex connotation.

As in the difference between "Newfies are known for their prowess in the fishing industry", and "Every passing day it seems like there's another Newfie coming over here and taking our jobs."

But like Pocket Ninja points out, none of these are "Ethnic"
 
2006-09-15 10:17:28 AM  
muninsfire: What about 'Canadian' then, is that an ethnic slur too? Or how about 'Irish'? Where does the distinction lie between 'description of birthplace' and 'ethnic slur'?

Terms relating to someone's area of origin can be used as slurs. Take, for instance, (Hi)sp(an)ic.


Yup. I would further that I have my doubts that we used the terms "Jap" or "Russkies" lovingly.
 
2006-09-15 10:22:42 AM  
Exactly, so the point is not the word but the way people use it. The difference between 'japs/ruskies' and 'newfie' is that japs/ruskies were created specifically to be insulting when there were already words in place to identify place of birth (japanese/russian). Newfie, as far as I know, was not created to be insulting, and is rarely used enough in that context to give it a strong enough negative connotation.

So what im saying is, lighten up Alberta.
 
2006-09-15 10:59:21 AM  
I worked with, and am friends with a bunch of Canadians and they throw around Newfie like it's a term of endearment.. it's a slur?
i never, ever knew that.
 
2006-09-15 11:08:47 AM  
EzraS: Newfie, as far as I know, was not created to be insulting

it was used to identify the transplants who came to work the oil fields, and it was not originally used in a friendly manner. Since then its toned down and been accepted into the vernacular as a neutral term.

so its all good.

meh, newfie...albertan...can't we just all get along and call each other "canuck", eh? ;P
 
2006-09-15 11:58:33 AM  
I'm going out and getting my OMGWTFBBQ licence plate right NOW!.
 
2006-09-15 11:59:26 AM  
Pocket Ninja: Hm. It would never have even occurred to me to use the word "Newfie" as an ethnic slur.


Are any Newfies actually offended by this?

(Waits for a reply that consists of nothing but one long string of drunken religious curses.)
 
2006-09-15 12:00:22 PM  
You know some Albertan has "Redneck" for a license plate.

Same thing.

Nothing to see here.

/Albertan
 
2006-09-15 12:00:50 PM  
Sweet!!! I wonder if porchmonkey is taken yet?


/Its ok, Randall took it back!
 
2006-09-15 12:01:00 PM  
darkyn: My partner, on the other hand, is from Port-au-Port

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that mean "Port's Port"?

God damn Newfies.
 
2006-09-15 12:01:38 PM  
willywanka:Think "Okie" for the dustbowl victims who streamed into California during the Dust Bowl period looking for jobs. If you've read "Of Mice and Men", that "Okie" wasn't really a "term of endearment", as much as a negative distinction.

I think you're referring to "The Grapes of Wrath." Nice try, thanks for playing our little game.
 
2006-09-15 12:03:06 PM  
CRKAPLZ
 
2006-09-15 12:03:08 PM  
If you really want to offend, try calling Maritimers "Newfies".

My wife (New Brunswick) and brother-in-law (Nova Scotia) weren't too impressed when my brother laid this one on them in jest.
 
2006-09-15 12:03:19 PM  
Ninja please...
 
2006-09-15 12:03:45 PM  
Chameleon: Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that mean "Port's Port"?

God damn Newfies.



Just be glad she's not from Dildo.
 
2006-09-15 12:04:21 PM  
In the movie Kalifornia, which was set in the 1990s, a woman actually used "Okie" as an insult. Other than that, I haven't heard the term used as an insult except for movies or books set in the Dust Bowl era.
 
2006-09-15 12:06:06 PM  
Er, I think if I was "NEWFIE" on a plate I'd assume it stands for "New Wife" and the the guy was just retarded or something.
 
i^2
2006-09-15 12:06:11 PM  
EzraS:

What about 'Canadian' then, is that an ethnic slur too?

No, of course not. But if someone mistakenly calls us "American" we sure consider that a slur. ;-)
 
2006-09-15 12:08:29 PM  
Um, yeah. I live in Alberta, and all my life I've never heard 'Newfie' used as a slur. It's just a compact way of saying "Newfoundlander".

I mean, shiat, this is Alberta. We have more newfies than Newfoundland does. It's their sweat and labour that's making this province right now.
 
2006-09-15 12:08:32 PM  
Ethnic slur? submitter get F for bad use of term

/Albertan
//farkin Newfie
 
2006-09-15 12:09:15 PM  
Always wanted COO-NAS on my plate. It might pass the DMV filter.

home.jam.rr.com
 
2006-09-15 12:10:35 PM  
feelgood47

... submitter get F for bad use of term

And feelgood47 get A for sound like Frankenstein.
 
2006-09-15 12:11:05 PM  
Does this mean I can get my Toronto-slur license plate of A55H0L approved too now?
 
2006-09-15 12:11:15 PM  
Mynubian
 
2006-09-15 12:12:15 PM  
MooseBayou: And feelgood47 get A for sound like Frankenstein.

Me Tarzan you Jane. Hulk MAD! Hulk SMASH!
 
2006-09-15 12:13:11 PM  
What about Newfoundland dogs? They've always been called Newfies as far as I've know. Just like Rottweillers are sometimes called Rotties.
 
2006-09-15 12:13:17 PM  
STFU N00F!
 
2006-09-15 12:13:40 PM  
YOO-PER

www.elliotbrothers.com
 
2006-09-15 12:13:55 PM  
newfie please!
 
2006-09-15 12:15:27 PM  
I'd never even heard that "Newfie" might be considered a slur. Sure, I've heard Newfie jokes, but that doesn't make the term itself a slur any more than American jokes make the term "American" a slur.
 
2006-09-15 12:16:00 PM  
I've got 10 Canadian dollars that says the guy who applied for it is originally from Newfoundland... any takers?
 
2006-09-15 12:16:01 PM  
usrid0, I am offended by that comment. How would you like it if I went around saying, "usrid0 please..." Yeah! How bout that.

Oh... you're cool with that. Oh.
 
2006-09-15 12:16:29 PM  
Chameleon

I could also mean "Port's Door" or vice-versa, depending on how badly the original French was manlged, and how you want to translante it.

Mind you, it could also mean "Door's door".

/Father's a newfie
 
2006-09-15 12:19:01 PM  
Coboc

... It could also mean "Port's Door" or vice-versa ...

Sherry's Sherry?
 
2006-09-15 12:20:11 PM  
Let's even the field

Newfoundland - newfies
Nova Scotia - scoaties (sounds like scroaties - hahaha)
PEI - peepies (Ha)
New Brunswick - brunies
Quebec - quekies
Ontario - onties (or assholes)
Manitoba - manties
Sask.. - sackies
Alberta - rich assholes um - albies
BC - brities or clumbies
Nunavut - nunvies
Yukon - yuckies (Ha-ha)
NWT - terries or norties

Now that everyone is offended STFU & GBTW
 
2006-09-15 12:21:44 PM  
In some circles, it's not considered a slur, but IMO, it should be considered one and not used. I farking hate it because of the connotations.

/Newfoundlander
//not a newfie
 
2006-09-15 12:22:32 PM  
MooseBayou:

Now I totally want a "Yooper_Grrl" plate. Downside: that ain't gonna fit on any state's plate...
 
2006-09-15 12:23:14 PM  
I'm not offended, oldfarthenry, I'm confused.

/"Peepies" heeheehee
 
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