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(Chattanoogan)   Georgia governor vows to eliminate income tax for everyone over 65. Grandma rejoices, "More money for bingo"   (chattanoogan.com) divider line 77
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2006-09-14 12:12:50 PM  
This is great, just in time for the elderly to become the biggest percentage of our population. So the rest of us have to foot the bill for them? I think it's time for Carousel, ala Logan's Run
 
2006-09-14 12:18:32 PM  
How in the hell could this stand up under the Equal Protection Clause?

I'm almost positive that age is a protected status, which is why you can't tell someone applying for a job, "Hey, you're too farking old. Take a hike."
 
2006-09-14 12:20:11 PM  
I'm almost positive that age is a protected status, which is why you can't tell someone applying for a job, "Hey, you're too farking old. Take a hike."

"Age discrimination" in the private workplace has nothing to do with the 14th Amendment. That's governed by other statutory laws, not the federal Constitution.
 
2006-09-14 12:24:22 PM  
Isn't it enough that this selfish generation is leaving the younger generation a huge debt because they couldn't bother to pay taxes when they were younger and working?
 
2006-09-14 12:29:45 PM  
Yay! Majority rules!

After RTFA, it sounded like the governor did a pretty good job turning the deficit into a surplus. Any Georgia T/Farkers care to tell us how it went?
 
2006-09-14 12:53:54 PM  
kronicfeld,

"Age discrimination" in the private workplace has nothing to do with the 14th Amendment. That's governed by other statutory laws, not the federal Constitution.

So, what classes are protected under the 14th?
 
2006-09-14 03:10:02 PM  
While I hate taxes I don't think this works as "equal protection"
 
2006-09-14 03:11:48 PM  
Stupid, just stupid.
 
2006-09-14 03:12:14 PM  
Get rid of their social security tax, but that should be about it.
 
2006-09-14 03:14:12 PM  
All for it. Trickle down econ... Grandma has more money to give me on my birthday!!!!
 
2006-09-14 03:15:38 PM  
More taxes being picked up by the rest of the people. Sonny got his surplus by gutting the budget of almost every state program he could.

/under 65
/no rugrats
/pays way too much state/county taxes
 
2006-09-14 03:19:35 PM  
SchlingFo

I agree. I'd further say a lot of the measures to protect classes of people during the civil rights movement were unnecessary for legal matters, but needed for the time period.
 
2006-09-14 03:19:37 PM  
Considering income tax was a statute instituted for wartime and was supposed to be repealed, meh.

Our governor hasn't done much (and I'm a Republican and I say this), but the GA Legislation has done wonders.

No, Purdue gives us such gems as the suggestion for an 8-5 schoolday, taxing lottery tickets, and monetary bonuses for schools who ditch their arts programs for sports.
 
2006-09-14 03:20:18 PM  
Dear Sirs,

This is the first generation in America that wants to screw the younger generations. "Wahh Wahh Wahh, we have to move because we can't afford the high property taxes, so stop collecting them." "Pity us, Social Security barely covers a cost of living".

Hey, old people, our generation can't afford housing because ya'lls wrinkly old ass is forcing us to pay a higher tax rate because of your oh-so-precious tax abatements. And hell, the only Social Security I'll see is getting a buck on a corner while I'm dieing of the lack of any medical care.

So screw off selfish old people.

DA in Brenham
/ Parents agree that this is the "selfish" generation
// My parents still want beter for the future.
/// Hate the Grey Panthers.
 
2006-09-14 03:20:50 PM  
Umn... that's just stupid. I could see lowering it, or even eliminating it for those in a small incom bracket trying to get by, but if gramps happens to be a CEO pulling in a million a year he should still have to pay income taxes.
 
2006-09-14 03:21:13 PM  
www.lef.org


Dick Cheney, age 65 nods approvingly.

 
2006-09-14 03:21:32 PM  
Let's see.

We have an aging population that paid little into social security (indexed), that outnumbers the younger PAYING generation. And he wants to eliminate the income tax for those over 65...the richest generation in Americas history.

//someone. Slap this dumb farker already.
 
2006-09-14 03:21:46 PM  
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense! Give the people who paid almost nothing into social security and are now collecting 10 times what the paid into it monthly a break on taxes as well.

/don't look to us Gen X'ers for help when you can't take care of yourself
//I have a grandmother too, even she thinks it's BS
 
2006-09-14 03:24:10 PM  
Griphon: Sonny got his surplus by gutting the budget of almost every state program he could.

That's how you do it. My hats off to him.
 
2006-09-14 03:25:20 PM  
Just another page in the book called "How the Boomers Destoyed America"

Why do they hate future generation's financial freedom?
 
2006-09-14 03:25:31 PM  
I've got a great idea, why don't we tax people a proper amount with more cut and dry rules for tax payment, and then actually reduce government bureacracy and make effective programs, as well as use accountability as more than a political world by properly contracting out many services which the government overspends on and provides terrible service for.

Not that this one may not be a decent idea, but, there is a reason you tax income...
 
2006-09-14 03:26:18 PM  
HEY! Just eliminate the state income tax for all of Georgia while you're at it. Heck, go all the way and get rid of all state taxes.

Take it to the federal level with the Fair Tax.

/lives in GA.
 
2006-09-14 03:27:04 PM  
ateksuni

Considering income tax was a statute instituted for wartime and was supposed to be repealed, meh.

Ummmm....what war were we fighting in 1913?
 
2006-09-14 03:27:22 PM  
Don't worry. This is the same Gov. that promised the Teachers a pay raise before his first election. They never got it.
 
2006-09-14 03:28:12 PM  
Great idea considering the age distribution. Who's going to pay for everything? Oh yeah... me and everyone my age. Doh!

The problem with a democracy is that the people in power a) want power, and b) have to please the electorate in order to get it. We should have people in charge who a) don't want to be in charge, and b) don't have to please the masses to be rewarded.

"By the people, for the people..." is great until you realize that when take as a whole "the people" are a bunch of frickin' morans who have no idea what is good for themselves beyond next Tuesday.
 
2006-09-14 03:32:58 PM  
So, what classes are protected under the 14th?

It's not an issue of protected classes. It's an issue of the fact that the constitution doesn't protect you from private parties, it protects you from the government.
 
2006-09-14 03:33:57 PM  
So we pay into Social Security that they'll get, they'll die, leaving us crap for crap? This is all out a bad idea.
 
2006-09-14 03:36:41 PM  
MelbaToast2000: That's how you do it. My hats off to him.

Yeah, it's great. And that $250 tax credit for teachers to buy school supplies? That's because they get NO FUNDING WHATSOEVER for their supplies. 100% out of pocket.

Still a great idea?
 
2006-09-14 03:37:18 PM  
They totally discriminated against me when I was 17 and tried to get into that tittie bar. I should have sued.

Hook up the age group that pays the least taxes and votes the most. Makes sense for the governor, but not the majority of the state.

Does that mean that if I retire in Georgia and don't empty my retirement plan until I'm after 65, I don't have to pay taxes on it? (only skimmed the article, sorry if I missed something)
 
2006-09-14 03:37:57 PM  
You know, 65 is pretty old. Years ago, most 65 year olds wouldn't have paid income taxes anyway simply by virtue of being retired. Yeah, I know retirement ages are getting pushed back further and further. But realistically, most 65+ year olds who are still working are doing so because they can't afford retirement. So we aren't talking about large sums of money here.

But either way, it sounds like a campaign gimmick.
 
2006-09-14 03:38:53 PM  
Hmm, let's see, buy votes from the group of citizens most likely to vote (because they haven't got anything better to do, it's not like they're out working for a living), by stealing even more from the group least likely to vote. Sounds like a plan!

/voting for Hayes
 
2006-09-14 03:40:49 PM  
Then people over 65 shouldn't get to vote. No representation if you don't get taxation. And just to be sure the polls shouldn't open until after 8:30pm, after they've all gone to bed.
 
2006-09-14 03:44:29 PM  
My state is in fark. Woohoo I can die happy.
 
2006-09-14 03:45:00 PM  
Blackbird: After RTFA, it sounded like the governor did a pretty good job turning the deficit into a surplus. Any Georgia T/Farkers care to tell us how it went?


Lottery money??
 
2006-09-14 03:45:17 PM  
"By not having to pay state income taxes, retirees can better cover the costs of prescription drugs and healthcare, or spend more time with their grandchildren."

No they will not be spending time with their grandchildren because their grandchildren will be working their ass off to pay their freakin taxes so grampa doesn't have to.

/Thanks Sonny
 
2006-09-14 03:47:12 PM  
Who wants to bet this was simply done to get old people to the polls?

Ten bucks says it will also get pissed off young adults out there, too.
 
2006-09-14 03:50:08 PM  
If I'm not mistaken he has to get the through the state legislators. Up until then it's just another campaign promise.
 
2006-09-14 03:50:17 PM  
"Who wants to bet this was simply done to get old people to the polls?

Ten bucks says it will also get pissed off young adults out there, too."

Maybe, but it's likely that 5-10 old people will show up to the polls for every young adult that votes.
 
2006-09-14 03:52:11 PM  
WTG Sonny!! MelbaToast2000 Yeah, it sounds like a great idea until you realize that Education falls under state programs. And people wonder why we here in GA are so behind in edakashun.

/Sonny's an asshat
//voting Libertarian.
 
2006-09-14 03:58:23 PM  
You gotta love Sonny. He'll say anything to get elected. He won his last election by vowing to return the old confederate battle flag to it's former position as the state flag even though he knew he didn't have the power or congressional votes to do it. The best part was, all the hillbillies fell for it, and then got furious when he couldn't deliver. He KNEW he couldn't do it you stupid hicks. HA HA!

Now he's trying to appeal to business conservatives and centrist dems (me) with a "I'm responsible for all of the prosperity in Atlanta" campaign. Yeah right. That prosperity was caused by economics, climate, and 2 million educated Yankees moving to Atlanta, not to any of your policies. It's been gradually occurring for the last 20 years, so what did Sonny do?

This is just another promise that he knows he can't deliver, but he's hoping to shore up the old people vote. Old people turnout on election day is huge, and besides, he needs a replacement group for some of the rednecks he lost from his failed flag change pledge.

/carpetbagger
//only here for your land, money, and women
///so far it's worked out great
 
2006-09-14 03:59:04 PM  
State income tax? What is that?

/Texas baby
// Stupid to eliminate a group of tax payers.
 
2006-09-14 04:02:00 PM  
ateksuni
 
Considering income tax was a statute instituted for wartime and was supposed to be repealed, meh

You sir are incorrect. The Sixteenth Ammendment which gave the Federal gov't the power to collect taxes based on a person's income was ratified in 1913. The US was not involved in any war in 1913. Prior to that the Feds could only levy direct taxes in proportion to the census.
 
2006-09-14 04:06:35 PM  
txlewis: State income tax? What is that?

Washington state residents are thinking the same thing.
 
2006-09-14 04:12:19 PM  
I do so love it when politicians vow to cut income taxes. Because we all know that when the gov't. loses a source of revenue, it has no intention of recouping it somewhere else and always cuts back on spending too, right?

Right?!?

/feeling older just thinking about this
 
2006-09-14 04:13:35 PM  
triple-what?

why the fark doesn't the sundowning crowd have to pay their taxes?

i'm sure as fark paying asstons on every paycheck so that AARP card freeloaders can chow their vegas buffets and clutter up my streets.
 
2006-09-14 04:17:08 PM  
Isn't it enough that this selfish generation is leaving the younger generation a huge debt because they couldn't bother to pay taxes when they were younger and working?

Not quite true...today's retirees came of age when the top marginal tax rate was 70%.
 
2006-09-14 04:26:04 PM  
Let's see, Sonny is 60 years old now, so by the time he gets out of office, he won't have to pay state tax anymore.

Brilliant!
 
2006-09-14 04:29:17 PM  
Just increase taxes on the poor and elderly. They're the ones using the gov't services to begin with.
 
2006-09-14 04:34:58 PM  
Most rich people are also old. This is probably just a ploy to suck up to geriatric voters, but it would suck donkey balls if it happened.
 
2006-09-14 04:42:03 PM  
Hang on. I don't much care for Perdue or his politics, but there's a very serious and sober basis in economics and public policy for this sort of idea. Properly implemented, this plan could balance the noble American spirit of independence and limited government interference with our cherished tradition of a social safety net.

Of course, "properly implementing" it isn't something you can do overnight. I propose we create a blue-ribbon panel to study the matter for... oh... let's say...34 years. Then immediately enact it.

Um, just to be clear, I think we should study this at least until April 23rd, 2040. Not one day less, and preferably not too many more.
 
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