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(CNN)   Unruly American mobs may soon be test subjects for new high-tech Air Force weaponry   (edition.cnn.com) divider line 539
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2006-09-13 12:33:03 AM  
Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations...

I'm bringing a Hot Pocket to my next riot.
 
2006-09-13 12:39:10 AM  
soo stupid. you have any idea how easy it is to thwart microwaves? tin foil.

tin foil backed with a good thermal insulator ('cause that foil is gonna get hot.)
 
2006-09-13 12:43:36 AM  
I hope whoever thinks this is 'cool' is the first test subject.

The SCARY tag just crapped its pants and ran away.
 
2006-09-13 12:43:43 AM  
This is a joke right?
 
2006-09-13 12:44:44 AM  
*cough* BLUE THUNDER *cough*

/ahem
 
2006-09-13 12:45:17 AM  
I totally commend him for testing the weapons on good, hard-working Americans rather than the freedom-haters in Iraqistan.
 
2006-09-13 12:45:17 AM  
It's Only Castles Burning


This is a joke right?


True Americans have nothing to hide. or protest about.
 
2006-09-13 12:45:29 AM  
"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne. "(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."

So basically Bush protestors are going to be gunny pigs so that Hitler Jr. does not look bad in the international press
 
2006-09-13 12:45:46 AM  
Uhh okay. In before people start thinking this is OMG FASCISM THE SKY IF FALLING AHHHHH
 
2006-09-13 12:47:00 AM  
WTF?

Will there be a clear definition of what an 'unruly' mob specifically consists of, or will it be an umbrella sort of definition that includes peaceful protestors the local government disagrees with or perhaps innocent people caught in a crossfire.

Maybe contain the 'Free Speech' cages with these.
 
2006-09-13 12:47:16 AM  
"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation".

Sure, why don't we try it out on you, and your entire family first. It'll be "like take your daughter to work day".

That includes your mom and dad too. What's fair, is fair, there are old people who raised creeps, over there also, aren't there?
 
2006-09-13 12:47:34 AM  
Testing weapons on citizens?

Man, something just strikes me as wrong about that.
 
2006-09-13 12:47:35 AM  
Wait...

You'll test on your own citizens to make sure it's safe to use on your enemy?

What The Flying F!?!?!?
 
2006-09-13 12:47:44 AM  
Man On Fire: soo stupid. you have any idea how easy it is to thwart microwaves? tin foil.

There's always rubber bullets for the one rioter who comes prepared with a tin foil suit.
 
2006-09-13 12:48:10 AM  
The heat from a Molotov is not non-lethal.
 
2006-09-13 12:48:21 AM  
Remember, we're the GOOD GUYS.
 
2006-09-13 12:48:35 AM  
Hell yeah, wait. that's not cool.
 
2006-09-13 12:48:59 AM  
cardex: So basically Bush unruly protestors are going to be gunny pigs so that Hitler Jr. does not look bad in the international press

Bush won't be here much longer.
 
2006-09-13 12:49:30 AM  
So much for the revolution.
 
2006-09-13 12:49:57 AM  
Hardened plastic external stuit, inner suit of tin foil, inner padding of thermal retardent, self-sealed mask with activated charcoal filter?
 
2006-09-13 12:50:13 AM  
Unruly mobs? Anyone out of their free speech zone of course. Or if too many are in there. Of if one might have a gun, or mabye a butter knife. In these post 9/11 times you see...
 
2006-09-13 12:50:46 AM  
Man On Fire: soo stupid. you have any idea how easy it is to thwart microwaves? tin foil

But wait, I thought tin foil hats were what scientists used to keep.. wait. Bevets, how does it go again?
 
2006-09-13 12:51:00 AM  
I'm starting a new company:

"Mobile Microwave Tanning Solutions"

For a small fee I will let you know where the unruly mobs are at and you can get that 'golden tan' look even in the dead of winter!
 
2006-09-13 12:51:15 AM  
I've always said that the average American citizens who've kept harping about the police and military needing more and more "less lethal" weapons were naively paving the way for a police state biatchslap.


The more "peaceful" the method to control behavior (and dissent), the more likely it is to be used. Especially if the effects instantly cease once the device is turned off.

After all, no one was "hurt", so what's the big deal?

Scary shiat.
 
2006-09-13 12:51:36 AM  
Must. Remove. Fascists. From. Power. Now.
 
2006-09-13 12:52:08 AM  
we livin in a police state
 
2006-09-13 12:52:34 AM  
In a weird way, what he's saying makes sense.

"If we wouldn't do it to our own people, why should we do it to someone else?"

Seeing as he is the SecAF, maybe he should extend that thought out to:
"If we wouldn't drop cluster bombs on Boston, why should we drop them on Baghdad?"
 
2006-09-13 12:53:13 AM  
"...I think that I would be vilified in the world press."

Yeah, who cares what the fark the domestic press has to say...
 
2006-09-13 12:53:21 AM  
Bring on the BBQ sauce.

//only kill as much as you can eat.
 
2006-09-13 12:53:52 AM  
Is it too late to do something about this?

Maybe Jihad isn't such a bad idea.
 
2006-09-13 12:53:56 AM  
"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Secretary Michael Wynne.

Anyone else in favor of letting Secretary Wynne cut to the front of the line?

/aim it right at his crotch, thank you.
 
2006-09-13 12:54:04 AM  
If they can taser grandma and elementary kids, this ain't too far a leap ahead.
 
2006-09-13 12:54:19 AM  
I don't wanna get "hat hair" so I'm using my tin foil to make an umbrella.

Microwave and UV protection even it if does make me look teh ghey. Hey, maybe it will rain.
 
2006-09-13 12:54:43 AM  
That would be a step towards crushing any rebellion, and a step towards an authorian government.
 
2006-09-13 12:55:10 AM  
Its just for non-lethal technologies.

Squashing dissent is ethically okay so long as you don't kill anybody.
 
2006-09-13 12:55:20 AM  
From TFA: "WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield"

Whoa...I don't recall signing up to be a lab-bunny.

I got shivers reading that article. Seriously. Jumping Jeebus Christ, that's some scary shiat.
 
2006-09-13 12:55:44 AM  
well of course...if something goes wrong and there are fatalities, we'd rather have it happen in American cities than on the battlefield, which is considered a safe haven for all.
 
2006-09-13 12:55:49 AM  
Extremely un-cool. Boo, submitter.
 
2006-09-13 12:56:04 AM  
Lord_Baull: If they can taser grandma and elementary kids, this ain't too far a leap ahead.


they would not have to taser the kids if the parents would just spank the little shiats, as far as grandma its what she gets for driving 20 in a 45 zone with her turn signal on.
 
2006-09-13 12:56:06 AM  
I predict calling America a "police state" will be overused in this thread.

Of course for paranoid people, like quite a few from Fark actually are, anywhere they live will feel like a police state. But for those of us who have actually BEEN to a police state (states, actually), calling the US one seems quite naive.
 
2006-09-13 12:56:11 AM  
Or even an authoritarian government.
 
2006-09-13 12:57:08 AM  
"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation"

That makes total sense whenever we develop a new weapon. And by that I mean, "WTF????".
 
2006-09-13 12:57:28 AM  
mmmm, what's that smell?
 
2006-09-13 12:57:35 AM  
I'm sure glad we've got that well-organized militia that's guar-- oh right, another branch of the federal government's military.
 
2006-09-13 12:57:35 AM  
We can put a man on the moon but we can't make a cannon that shoots stinging foam?
 
2006-09-13 12:57:54 AM  
Bwahahaha. It's only a matter of time now. The clock is ticking!
 
2006-09-13 12:58:11 AM  
But for those of us who have actually BEEN to a police state (states, actually), calling the US one seems quite naive.

There are no varying degrees of police states?
 
2006-09-13 12:58:23 AM  
Cool tag? WTF?? What's so cool about testing a "non-lethal"
on your own people? Saddam would be proud.
 
2006-09-13 12:58:51 AM  
Actually...the problem with these is that it starts to build a solid plank into humanity's more grayer moral regions.

With bullets, death and serious injury are assured. But that consequence is tied to the person with their finger on the trigger. Humanity prevents more people from being shot and killed by the government. Yes, mistakes are made, cruel people are put into positions of power, etc...but by and large, humanity keeps that cop from shooting perpetrators in all but the most extreme situations. With that reluctance comes some protection from an oppressive government...countrymen don't want to kill countrymen.

Now technology is being put into place that provides a a fairly safe, effective means to impose power over people without the blood, gore, and death previous methods resulted in. A disconnect between the authorities and the people will emerge....it's a lot easier to set citizen against citizen in a cleaner arena (and probably even more removed because they will be sitting in a truck somewhere just aiming a video crosshair and pulling a trigger).

THIS is why these things should be feared. You'd be pretty hard pressed to convince a big chunk of law enforcement and military members to kill a fellow citizen. Very few would show much reluctance in harmlessly zapping them. The result: government power increases by minimizing internal protests and refusals to carry out orders.
 
2006-09-13 12:59:19 AM  
Sounds good, lets start microwaving the anti-war clowns people and tree-huggers ASAP.
 
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