Deja vu all over again?

whoa..time warp.

And it was in a bag with Data's head...

More like Scary tag.

Wow. Just... wow. I gotta say, after reading this if I had an account at that bank I'd close it and go somewhere else. How the hell do your security cameras not pick up someone dropping off a deposit? Amazing security measures there, folks.

She needs to sue. Sue sue sue.

Kent County Prosecutor William Forsyth offered to repay her $400 fee for entering the diversion program and pay her $10 per hour for her 40 hours of community service.

I thought by definition prosecutors were brainless, heartless douchebags. His supervisor won't like this.

orrinbloquy: Kent County Prosecutor William Forsyth offered to repay her $400 fee for entering the diversion program and pay her $10 per hour for her 40 hours of community service.

I thought by definition prosecutors were brainless, heartless douchebags. His supervisor won't like this.

He's probably still in training. Note how he didn't pay her for her attorney fees, nor her time in court.

Eventually, he'll get to the level of evil proper for a prosecuting attorney--where he charges her for wasting the court's time.

orrinbloquy I thought by definition prosecutors were brainless, heartless douchebags.

Exceptions prove the rule.

muninsfire
Note how he didn't pay her for her attorney fees...

From TFA:

Her court-appointed lawyer recommended that she plead guilty to a misdemeanor embezzlement charge..."

Smaerd: From TFA:

Her court-appointed lawyer recommended that she plead guilty to a misdemeanor embezzlement charge..."

What, read that? Nah.

/Strike "attorney fees" from my response, then, and add "attorney fees" to the section about what the prosecutor 'should' have charged her for.

But, hey.

Keep the death penalty in place.

People are never wrongfully convicted, and the legal system is infallible.

Just cause he's court appointed doesn't mean he's free. You have prove indigence to get the court appointed attorney fee reduced...at least here, you do...somebody told me that...somewhere.

alexanderplatz: There are a lot of frivolous lawsuits in this world, but this would not be one of them.


Agreed. I'm also wondering why they aren't seeking damages from the police department. It's blatantly obvious they never bothered to properly examine the night deposit box.

On Tuesday, Stahl filed a claim with the bank, saying it was negligent. He wants Huntington to pay Hansen for lost wages for the last year, though he didn't specify an amount. He also cited mental anguish.

If the bank doesn't settle, he will file a lawsuit, he said. He doesn't plan to take action against police or Panopoulos salons.

Here my friends is a lawyer with a brain. There is no case against the cops, or the salon. If there is liability it rests with the bank.

/glad to see someone acting rationally

I think i'd sue the pants off EVERYONE involved in the prosecution

God knows you can sue anybody you want, but a) you wouldn't win and b) it wouldn't be fair: How can you justify punishing somebody who acted in good faith?

Weaver95: I think i'd sue the pants off EVERYONE involved in the prosecution.


Why? The prosecutor only knows what the police tell them. It's really the police department's investigatory negligence that lead to her conviction.

orrinbloquy: I thought by definition prosecutors were brainless, heartless douchebags. His supervisor won't like this.

That offer is an insult. She's in line for a 7-figure settlement, in my estimation.

anyoen who is just now coming to grips with the proposition that out legal system is flawed really needs to pull their head of of their ass.

SchlingFo: People are never wrongfully convicted, and the legal system is infallible.

Hey, everyone's guilty of something.

TFA: Kent County Prosecutor William Forsyth offered to repay her $400 fee for entering the diversion program and pay her $10 per hour for her 40 hours of community service.

That's cool and all, assuming she was earning $10/hour or less at her previous job. That's really all the judicial system should be responsible for.

The bank, on the other hand, would be well advised to offer a settlement with several zeros and a comma or two to keep this lady quiet. I know I'd have a problem with continuing to do business with a bank that "loses" deposits.

A court trial, lie-detector test, jail-time, and subsequent community service for a total of $425 missing?

Your tax dollars at work.

No lawsuit here.

The prosecutor will blame the bank. The bank will blame the company that made the depository. The company that made the depository will blame some other company they outsourced the part that the bag hung up on. That company is in some third world country we're trying to make into a democracy.

It's the janitor's fault and he went bankrupt and offed himself.

Ah hah! The janitor's ex-wife's sister's nephew. Gotcha! Except he's a tard wearing a hockey helmet.

Ah ba da. ah ba da ah ba da. That's all folks.

mama's_tasty_foods: There is no case against the cops, or the salon. If there is liability it rests with the bank.

Of course. You're gonna get more money by going after a bank, afterall.

I think i'd sue the pants off EVERYONE involved in the prosecution.

That's what I was thinking.

The bank.
My ex-employer.
The people who administered the polygraph.
The company that provides security and cameras for the bank.
The company that manufactured the deposit drop box.

A Grand Rapids police detective called the woman to give her the news -- and to apologize on behalf of the department.

Call that apology an admission of wrongdoing. Sue the Grand Rapids PD too.

I'm not sue happy, but keep on looking for her. Good luck finding sue.

I gotta say, if ever there was a time to sue someone, this is it. I'm glad she's suing and she should. Idiot bank. You can't really blame the salon for pressing charges though, but the salon manager deserves a hearty verbal Fark You. This is also one case where "mental anguish" deserves some serious monetary payback.

Faced with a client who insisted on her innocence, I'd have gone to the bank and personally inspected the "mechanism." I wonder if her attorney bother to do that?

jjorsett: I wonder if her attorney bother to do that?

Her court appointed attorney? I doubt it.

Anybody surprised she looks like a white woman?

http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5326362&nav=0Rcd


/race card.

I remember reading an almost identical story about a Wendy's manager a few years back. In his case, they got a confession out of him and I believe he actually did some jail time.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: My ex-employer.


I don't get why the ex-employer? All he knew was that the police and the prosecutor tell him that she never made the deposit and the bank says they never recieved any deposit. He's the only real blameless person involved (other than the woman).

Submitter:

Whose deposit mechanism? The bank's or hers?

Aldon: Anybody surprised she looks like a white woman?


No.

Normally, I'm not a fan of litigation in cases like this, but I think Huntington should get ready to write a nice-sized check.

Lessons:

1) NEVER use the auto deposit dropoff. What if that was $425 or $2000 of your own money? It would still suck.

2) Don't handle money pickup/deposit as part of your job without clarifying indemnity. There's a reason bigger places (groceries, etc) have an armored service do it.

3) NEVER EVER EVER take a polygraph, unless you really are guilty and know how to fake it out. It's witchcraft, not science.

they didn't even look in the friggin thing before this woman was arrested?? WTF - innocent until proven guilty, right kids?

Justice don't come cheap in this country.

Sumatra:
"Just cause he's court appointed doesn't mean he's free. You have prove indigence to get the court appointed attorney fee reduced...at least here, you do...somebody told me that...somewhere."

She got canned as a receptionist at a hair salon in a suburb of Grand Rapids, MI over 80 bucks in cash. That's pretty much all the proof I need, at least.

Anyone else find it odd that he knew $10 an hour? Does this happen often enough that they have to reimburse people for community service that often?

Bacontastesgood: 3) NEVER EVER EVER take a polygraph, unless you really are guilty and know how to fake it out. It's witchcraft, not science.


Polygraphs don't matter. They are inadmissible as evidence.

This was my worst fear every time I made a night deposit, and they were in the thousands of dollars. We had issues with Bank of America where deposits were miscounted or other issues, and what other defense could you have other than, "I put it in the slot."

The company I worked for refused to let us leave the dough in the store safe overnight and make the deposits inside the bank in the morning. What a bunch of douche bags! This is not an isolated incident, but are rarely prosecuted.

2006-09-05 06:04:54 PM sylaak

Because instead of going to bat for her they immediately took the stance of "you took the money -- give it back or we'll call the cops".

Also because hair salons have deeeeep pockets.

(ok...not really that second one)