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(Aftenposten.no)   Transsexual wants two passports because it is virtually impossible to travel as a woman anymore   (aftenposten.no) divider line 120
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2006-08-30 11:56:15 AM
Hell no, pick one.
 
2006-08-30 12:32:38 PM
Let's get this out of the way:

This thread is fine without pics
 
2006-08-30 01:00:16 PM
Dude(ette), if you have a peener, you are a man. Leave the dress in the suitcase until you get to where you're going.
 
2006-08-30 02:33:39 PM
pick one.. ya useless retard.
stop trying to get exceptions made for your ridiculous lifestyle.
 
2006-08-30 03:17:20 PM
Why not wear unisex clothing?

snl.jt.org
 
2006-08-30 03:19:00 PM
passport application
......
8.) sex _M _F
if you are having problems with this question, remove pants and look between legs. if you find a penis, check M. if you find a vagina, check F. we do not care about what gender you feel like you are on the inside... we just care about the equipment
 
2006-08-30 03:19:35 PM
Ann Coulter has done what now?
 
2006-08-30 03:19:48 PM
Dr.Knockboots
stop trying to get exceptions made for your ridiculous lifestyle.

While this person will likely be shot down there's nothing wrong with citizens going to their governments and saying "hey, here's my situation and here's a proposed solution. Can this work?" It's better for governments to take issues on a case-by-case basis than it is for them to take people on a case-by-case basis.
 
F42
2006-08-30 03:20:15 PM
"I'm different! Treat me speciaaaaaaal!!!!"

farking attention whore, NO TRAVEL FOR YOU!
 
2006-08-30 03:21:08 PM
when tranies need 2 passports, the terrorists have indeed won.
 
2006-08-30 03:21:12 PM
For me this has made it virtually impossible to travel as a woman.

Dude, it's impossible for you to travel as a woman because you are a man.
 
2006-08-30 03:24:19 PM
You know what? You get to pick. Female or male. That's pretty profound. That's not a natural right or an inherent right. It's a fabricated right. It doesn't hurt anyone, so what the hell? Sure. If you want special consideration because of your choice, I suggest you buy a helmet. Life's rough.
 
2006-08-30 03:25:14 PM
img178.imageshack.us
 
2006-08-30 03:26:36 PM
This thread proves that mean people do indeed suck.
 
2006-08-30 03:27:24 PM
totalsecurity [TotalFark]

Let's get this out of the way:

This thread is fine without pics


HERUMPH HERUMPH!
 
2006-08-30 03:27:57 PM
well since no one wants to defend Victor/Victoria here, I guess I'll have to. I feel your pain bro... sis... um... sibling! It pisses me off that I need to use an airplane to fly, just because I'm not really a bird.
 
2006-08-30 03:28:09 PM
Why two passports? Why not just update the old one?
 
2006-08-30 03:28:46 PM
Mr.Churka
You know what? You get to pick. Female or male. That's pretty profound.


It would be profound if you could really pick. But you can't. You get some nasty surgery that will give you a very poor (IMHO) imitation of the sexual equipment and you get to deal with the fact that you have the wrong set of hormones for the rest of your life. And God help you if you ever want to go back.

Call me when you really can flip the switch and I'll think about becoming a lesbian for a while.
 
2006-08-30 03:28:58 PM
That is a funny headline.
 
2006-08-30 03:28:58 PM
www-personal.umich.edu

Yes officer, I've got a bomb hidden on me. I need a strip search in the worst way!"
 
2006-08-30 03:29:31 PM
MY HEART BLEEDS FOR YOU AND YOUR WOMAN PENIS.
 
2006-08-30 03:30:16 PM
OH WAIT NO, I NEED TO GO TO THE DOCTOR.
 
2006-08-30 03:30:28 PM
smeegle: This thread proves that mean people do indeed suck.

....and transsexual people are confused as to what to suck.
/Just kidding. Let me buy you a beer...or peach shnapps...or ?
 
2006-08-30 03:31:26 PM
AuntNotAnt

That was my first thought.
 
2006-08-30 03:31:29 PM
While this does seem ridiculous at first, if this guy is indeed a transexual, and wants a sex change, he is required to live as a woman for a couple years (I may be off, but you get the idea). Granted he could just change into man attire for the flight, but I guess it's pretty important to "play the part" constantly.

/don't know if this is enough to allow him two passports, but something to consider.
 
2006-08-30 03:33:45 PM
Ehhhh... I have to agree with BobTheFacist on this one. Pack the dress, wig, and makeup, and travel as a man since he is still legally a man. Now if he gets the surgery and legally becomes a woman, then he should be able to get a new passport to REPLACE the old one. Wanting two passports just to get around the system so he can travel in a dress is... well, that's just tough. I'd like to be able to drive my car 150mph to and from work every day, and I want a special license that will allow me that privaledge because I'm too self centered to just follow the rules. But I can't. That's just tough for me, eh?
 
2006-08-30 03:34:11 PM
myspace-024.vo.llnwd.net

Name: Austin Danger Powers
Sex: YES PLEASE!
 
2006-08-30 03:34:22 PM
Why don't they just give him/her/whatever a passport for the gender they travel as? If you live as a woman, get a passport with a female pic. Simple.
 
2006-08-30 03:36:17 PM
LadyHawke911: Granted he could just change into man attire for the flight, but I guess it's pretty important to "play the part" constantly
could he not "play the part" of a woman dressed as a man??? you know, baggy shirt and tape to hide his "breasts" and so forth?
 
2006-08-30 03:36:55 PM
Um, why doesn't she just get a new passport with a pic of herself as a woman? Is she moonlighting between sexes? I'm all for accepting her as whatever sex she she wants to be considered as, but is it asking too much that she be consistent?
 
2006-08-30 03:37:57 PM
Man Up Nancy!
 
2006-08-30 03:40:35 PM
GodTumor wins. 14th Post in and he got that photoshop done!
 
2006-08-30 03:46:49 PM
LadyHawke911 gets a cookie for nailing the issue.
 
2006-08-30 03:48:59 PM
www.myimagebuddy.com

Read him her Miranda rights.

www.myimagebuddy.com
 
2006-08-30 03:49:30 PM
Why does the passport need to specify the sex of the bearer anyway? Is that really relevant to the various customs officials?

As long as you look pretty much like the picture inside the passport, what does it matter what (if any) gender you choose to identify yourself as?

And for those of you are adamant that someone pick a gender and stick with it, it must be nice to live in such a black and white world. On the planet I live on (I like to call it 'reality', however others have suggested it's more like 'alcoholic haze') things aren't always so cut and dried. Believe it or not, there actually are people with both sets of genitalia. There are also those who are chromosomally one gender, but physically bear all the signs of being the other gender. Some people have gone through the (horrifying to many) surgery to be considered now a member of a gender other than the one they were physically born into. There are also some who have not yet gone 'all the way' with the surgery, but are for all intents and purposes, female. Is your world-view so narrow, your mind so closed that you cannot perceive that such people are still people too, and may well be able to function in the world even though they don't fit into your mould of what is right and proper?

All that said, the idea of two passports is just stupid.
 
2006-08-30 03:49:35 PM
Are Norwegian transexuals as ridiculously hot as the Brazilian trannies?
/I've been told
 
2006-08-30 03:50:10 PM
VINCENT: You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Paris?

JULES: They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with Cheese?

VINCENT: No, they got the metric system there, they wouldn't know what the fark a Quarter Pounder is.

JULES: What'd they call it?

VINCENT: Royale with Cheese.

JULES: Royale with Cheese? What'd they call a transsexual?

VINCENT: A farking queer is a farking queer, but they call it "le farking queer"...
 
2006-08-30 03:51:56 PM
Eddie Izzard unavailable for comment.
 
2006-08-30 03:52:01 PM
From Article:

First it must be determined whether transgender and transsexuals are a group that comes under the LDO's sphere of interest.

You are either interested or your are not, but this is a question for every person to answer for themselves.

/I'm not interested.
 
2006-08-30 03:53:54 PM
i hate transsexuals, they're so gay. it's always the lamest people that have them.

oh, wait, i think i'm thinking of trans ams... oh yeah, i got no problem transexuals
 
2006-08-30 03:54:22 PM
I hope he gets the extra passport, it would help my case a lot too. I'm not transsexual, but I do enjoy elaborate disguises. Only a few dozen of them are what you might call "swarthy", but you'd be surprised at the security hassles you get at the airport just for wearing a wig, colored contact lenses, and face prosthetics.

Maybe I should see if the ACLU will do something for me.
 
2006-08-30 03:56:24 PM
www.classic-tv.com
 
2006-08-30 03:58:23 PM
haysoos

Why does the passport need to specify the sex of the bearer anyway? Is that really relevant to the various customs officials?

I think the real problem may be the picture. He/she/it looks like a dude sometimes and like a girl at other times. Hard to match the photo. You'd get questioned if you showed up to board a plane and were wearing a disguise.

And for those of you are adamant that someone pick a gender and stick with it, it must be nice to live in such a black and white world.

Shades of grey/gray/gay exist. That's doesn't make black any less black and white any less white. Even gay people know what sex they are...these freaks are a minority of a minority. Sure, there are other minorities of minorities out there...well, actually they are in psychiatric institutions mostly...but still.

Is your world-view so narrow, your mind so closed that you cannot perceive that such people are still people too?

No. But my mind is clear enough to know these people are crazy.
 
2006-08-30 04:01:54 PM
Just allow two pictures......?
 
2006-08-30 04:02:18 PM
media.apn.co.nz
 
2006-08-30 04:05:37 PM
www.deadspin.com

Surely you remember the story 2 weeks ago about the post-op transexual who was 3 time Canadian Women's Champ in Downhill Mountain Biking a mere 2 years after taking up the sport?

We are the gender we say we are dammit!
 
2006-08-30 04:07:10 PM
1. Request two passports, where you dress like a man in one and a woman in another.
2. Sell the latter passport to a terrorist or someone on a wanted list.
3. Profit!!!
4. Terrorist or wanted criminal can now legally travel in the air with a disguise.
5. Explodarity ensues.

/double points for using Profit!!! and *arity ensuing in the same procedure.
 
2006-08-30 04:10:00 PM
mrsirjojo

Surely you remember the story 2 weeks ago about the post-op transexual who was 3 time Canadian Women's Champ in Downhill Mountain Biking a mere 2 years after taking up the sport?

We are the gender we say we are dammit!


Ummm. The dude pretended to be a chick and beat other chicks at mountain biking. As most dudes that compete in that sport would to do chicks that compete in that sport.
 
2006-08-30 04:10:59 PM
Well, it appears that the individual in the article is engaging in transvestitism and hasn't become a transsexual, yet. Part of the purpose of a passport is to make sure that the bearer is who the bearer claims to be. Granting separate passports to transvestites would defeat the purpose of having passports in the first place.

I've encountered some people who are quite comfortable dressing up in large animal costumes, but I wouldn't want to see them issued passports so they could travel in those either.
 
2006-08-30 04:11:44 PM
hfm.brlive.co.uk
We're la-a-adies!

/Little Britain
//Not one of their better characters (IMO), but still a damn good show.
///got nuthin'... nuthin' but slashies...
 
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