Reason #4986 why all lawyers should be shot:

"This is because students with that classification have already been identified as having behavioral problems, and the verbal misconduct might be considered a manifestation of their disability," city lawyer Lisa Grumet wrote in court papers.

What a total crock of shiite.

It's probably tough hanging out with retards. I dont' know why he minded being called Gandhi though, sounds like a compliment.

"School officials don't deny Peries was harassed - but argue that they can't discipline special ed students for slurring a teacher."

And if he had harassed the kids?
This is the same logic that allows a blind eye to be turned on child molesting priests.

If retarded people are making fun of you then you really must be a loser.

"Gifted" is also a form of special ed.

Re-read the story, and replace all instances of "special ed", etc. with "gifted". It'd be the kids suspended and laughed out of court if they sued.

Just another example of the "handicapped" having more rights than the exceptional.

The ratio of special-ed to gifted funding in public schools is 11-1. When we focus our attention on our problems rather than our potential, we doom ourselves to thinking that our problems are normal, and our potential is imaginary.

Arg.

If someone this pitiful needs money this badly I will gladly give him a swift kick to the groin. Now people are picking on mentally handicapped people? Please.

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And now everybody is making fun of him.

"One student, he charges in court papers, drew a red dot on the forehead of a polar bear in a classroom poster. Another teacher, who shared the classroom with Peries, allowed the ethnic slur to remain on the poster for months, he contends.: - because he couldn't take it down himself?

Let's see:

Punk kids break school established laws reguarding racism, self control, and common sense. Go unpunished because they are "special."

Okay...

They continue to break said rules until the teacher quits, and they will probably continue on with his replacement because they are "special."

Bullshiat. Even retards worth schooling show some sort of intelligence. The bullshiat about the kids acting this way because they are "special" disgraces those who really are handicapped. Apparently special-education now deals with students with chronic, impulsive, and xenophobic emotional problems? Kids with total lack of self control or respect for those there to help them have NO PLACE in schools. fark them, they had a chance and blew it - "retardation" or not. Again, like I said earlier, even people with mental retardation aren't generally violent pricks like these kids.

But then again, what that teacher described is what every public school classroom is like now that teachers are nothing but babysitters. So they are suppose to teach kids... that don't want to learn and don't want to be there? And they are suppose to teach violent pricks who'd rather disrupt class for other people, too? Oh, and without any form of retaliation? The kids in this story are proof we need a modern day Bedlam to lock them away in (and watch act as inhuman as possible to one another for amusement. and why not? They already do it but in classrooms).

I've always wanted a Gandhi shaped salt shaker.
Wouldn't that be cool?

"The kids won't make fun of you any more, Mr. Glasscock..."

(someone will probably correct me on the exact wording...)

The 'special-ed.' kids they refer to in this article aren't the mentally deficient retards that everyone is thinking of. These kids are the biggest assholes and idiots in the whole school in one class. I don't know why anyone would want to voluntarily teach these kids, especially for what teachers make here in NYC.

Yea... what FifthColumn said... only he said it a lot better than I did.

This is the problem with liberal politics, the only way to make us equal in every way is to bring us all down to the lowest denominator.

If any kid is using profanity towards a teacher they should be disciplined, no matter their inteligence.

I may hate you all but I hate you retards the most.

Second backer for FC.

How many farkers would go crazy if you had do deal with a buch of snot-nosed brats that were insulting you when you couldn't give the little bastards the spanking/ass-whoopin' they so richly deserved? I know that I would have been fired or in jail (probalby jail) within a week of my starting that job. The little snots are lucking that he didn't pull a tamali-tiger on their collective asses.

Bottom line, the city needs to have the pants sued off of them so they have the financial incentive to get some disipline back in the classroom.

Motherfuking retards... if they are good enough to have real fuking jobs (even real janitor-jobs) and go to real schools they should be good enough to live by the rules of society. If they can't, then the fuking retards should be put in some kind of damn home where they can bounce their idiot defected heads off the damn rubber walls all day. I'm tired of people making excuses for other people's actions just because they are _________ <--- (fill in liberal hobby horse here)

I used to have retarded kids pick on my while I was studying during lunch time....I do not know why and it always sort of bugged me....I mean..do they not understand that cool kids are allowed to pick on those beneath them and so on until you reach the retarded kids....

Rude: lawyers aren't the ones bringing these ridiculous lawsuits. don't blame lawyers, blame the asshats that decide that the solution to every little problem they have (or think they have) is to sue.

Product of the Beverly Hills High School "Special Education" program. In his era, they called it "contin'", as in "continuation".

First, I don't agree with the teacher for suing. You have to be thick-skinned for his job, and he obviously wasn't. He's not the first teacher to be run out of a classroom by the students (and the kids know it).

Based on my own experience, however... the following sentence from the article...

"School officials don't deny Peries was harassed - but argue that they can't discipline special ed students for slurring a teacher."

...could be simplified as follows...

"School officials don't deny Peries was harassed - but argue that they can't discipline students."

There is very, very little you can do to correct urban high school students' behavior through discipline. Detention? They don't show. Suspension? That's a vacation from school. Expulsion? Now they're society's problem because we'll be paying to support them, on welfare or in prisons. (I don't buy FifthColumn's solution, if that was intended as a serious option.) And forget about the threat that all of this shows up on their "permanent record"... they didn't consider college to be an option in the first place.

The only hope I've found is through parents... and even then, it's not a guarantee that the parents can do anything useful. It's more often than you'd expect, but not nearly often enough, that parents can positively influence a high school student's behavior. And if they're in special ed, it's less likely.

You can't give up hope... but there's something seriously farked up in the system, and something has to change at the early levels. Because high school is too late for "punishment."

Should definitely carry an amusing tag.

I'm not retarded, I just hate f*cking dot heads.

Oh yeah, I'm just slow........

timmah

In the old days they had ways of dealing with mental patients.

These guys aren't retarded. They're just the sh*it munchers who can't control themselves. Way to go parents!

The only way to straighten someone out at that stage (teens) is lashings. They simply don't respond to non-physical punishment, because thats all they respect. Not paddlings, because they would just punch the teacher. Tie them to a wall and publically lash them. 15 times would do it.

It works for the military, and schools obviously can't control their students without the parents' full approval. Probably the main reason I never act up. My parent would sign the release that allows the school to beat me in a heartbeat.

Of course, many parents wouldn't see anyone lay a finger on their "misunterstood angel". Luckily for those of us in the USA, we have AIDs which tends to kill dumb people. Apologies in advance to anyone who contracted/knows someone who AIDs from a method other than stupid unprotected sex/drug use.

Veritas: Any problem you have now is a disability. Convienent, huh?

These are not the "arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics" special ed kids. These are the wastes of flesh who will walk up and piss on the classroom door while bellowing an impromptu song about what a great guy Hitler was. For anyone to claim that this is a "disability" is disgraceful -- a huge step backwards for our society.

We are the only species of animal who's sense of sentimentality is stronger than our sense of progressive evolution. Teachers have to learn to deal with it. That said, whats the point in 'schooling' someone if you can't make them function.

"lawyers aren't the ones bringing these ridiculous lawsuits.

70% of the world's lawyers are in the USA. It's that climate that produces these "stupid" suits. Though perhaps, this suit will result in required parental responsiblity or increased allowability of schools to brand "incorrigible" rsulting in sanctioned and legal physical abuse resulting in seveer mental retardation and puppy love subserviance.

"Look little Johnny can now eat out of my hand and he really behaves when I show him a rolled up newspaper"

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This article demonstrates why I refuse to teach for the public shcool system. When I began college, it was with the intention of becoming a high school English teacher. However, the more I learned about the public school system, the more I wanted nothing to do with it.

To reiterate what others here have stated, these kids are not mentally incapacitated. These are behavior problem kids, the ones with so-called ADD (that label means "no one has ever disciplined this kid and we can't control him"), the ones who "act out," or have "problems functioning socially." These are kids whose only REAL problem is a lack of discipline in their lives. They usually come from homes where the parents either don't care (too involved with personal drug habit, boyfriend, or cashing the welfare check), or have some stupid hands-off method of parenting. I don't care what any intellectual study shows, what kids need is a good spanking every now and again when they're young to grab their attention. The idea of not being "able" to discipline these kids because they are "special ed" is the only thing that's retarded in this situation. Even truly mentally challenged individuals can learn what is or isn't appropriate behavior through conditioning. That's how dogs are house broken and learn to obey commands. This is just another example of how public school officials are more concerned with furthering their political careers by saying what sounds good than with actually doing the job they were elected to do: make sure kids are educated.

Amen, Bondgirl - Amen.

My wife was teaching school in a Western state, and I took at position at the same school at the ISS supervisor. One kid, diagnosed as "ADHD" was in my room one afternoon....7th grader, I believe.
Told me my wife was a c--t, and I was a fvcking c--ksucker. I told him he'd better apologize, or there would be dire consequences.
He then told me "..go fvck yourself, a$$hole..". ADHD or not, I walk up to the desk he was sitting at, and turned it upsidedown, with him in it.
I told him, "next time, I won't be nice."

He and I became good pals after that -- amazine what a little physical discipline will do!

gods, I cannot spell this early in the day.

My stepson is ADHD ODD and has a reported IQ of 68. He is not retarded, but he has learned how to manipulate the systems. He doesn't go to school for very long, and as far as punishing him, it would be a full time 24/7/365 job, and you will quickly run out of ideas.

Any farker here who thinks that "bad parenting" etc. caused this is more than welcome to take their turn at raising this kid. His Christian Fundie Aunt and Uncle had him for two weeks before they started cursing and sent him back! No Shiat!

It doesn't say anywhere in there they are retarded. It does pretty much say they are bad b*stards the school doesn't want near the other students.

Bondgirl:
I totally agree with you on the ADD definition. The problem does not lie with the teachers, it lies with the parents who have no farkin clue, and don't discipline their kids at ALL.. or only discipline on occasion.
Goes back to the common fark philosophy that people should have to get a permit to reproduce!!!

Yes, my wife has done jail time for "child abuse" while trying to discipline the little as_hole...

When your own flesh and blood says "fark you biatch" (without the filters) what is your response?

The otherday, I wallowed him on the ground and beat his ass for making the cows run for the third time after I told him not to.

He only lacks about ten pounds to be outweighing me, and I'm not sure I can handle him anymore.

Freckled... you are right I don't have a clue..

Please in your infinite wisdom take this burden from me, as you are so able to deal with it.

I used to think just like you... May fate prove you wrong as it has me.

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In other words, we'd gladly let you put your money where your mouth is.

He gets $ from the gov't too, and a medicard.

Wants to be a pilot when he grows up but can't subtract 1 from 10. He's 13 years old.

He's all yours...

Sorry, that doesn't cut it with me, that the child is simply too much of a challenge. The problem had to start SOMEWHERE.. maybe when the kid was two years old and his tantrums helped him get his own way. In most cases of diagnosed ADHD, it's labelled once the child starts in the school system and disrupts the classroom continually with his behavioural problems. The teacher has the challenge of having to focus 80% of his/her energy on this child.

Most likely the parents have had their heads in the sand and have been in denial that their child might have a behavioural problem, until now the teacher is telling them to go and get ritalin to calm their child down.

ADHD is a relatively new epidemic, a label used to soothe the conscience of the parent who has never set any limits for their child. It allows them to effectively drug their child, since it's too much work to try and undo the damage from their lack of parenting in the first 6 or 7 years of the child's life.

Sparky.. posted that before I read your responses. I realize that you have a hell of a challenge on your hands, and there probably ARE legitimate cases of ADHD. However, the point I am trying to make is that it seems to be the catchall for lazy parents all too often these days.

Retard made good:
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Arg!. I meant:

This is just a hunch but I think someday they are going to find out these extreme behaviors in kinds are caused in part by some kind of pollution -- personally I think it is caused by some kind of metal in the air or water.

Sparky what kind of water filter are using at your h,,kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkrr r frf tg g r ffraaaaaaaome

I've had my share of kids labeled ADHD in my classroom over the years. Why they came up with that tag, I have no idea. I always thought the term "hyper" worked just fine. "A-hole" worked well, too, when they got out of hand.

Anyway, the way I tend to deal with the ADHDers of the world is to find a way for them to channel their energies/frustrations into something that might resemble participation in the class rather than disruption of the class.

For example I had this guy named Juan last year who I was warned about from day one. I was warned he wouldn't do any work and that he'd distract the other kids with his commentary on what was going on in the class. The way I dealt with this was to actively seek his input on what we were talking about in class. I'd ask, "So Juan, what do *you* think?" Early on, he'd try to give some BS answer to get a laugh, but I'd dismiss that and force him to come up with a legitimate response. The first couple of months, this was near torture for me and the rest of the class. But after awhile, he started trying to come up with intelligent answers rather than wise-ass answers, especially after I'd praised him early on when he did actually come up with a good idea on his own. He soon learned it was much better to get a pat on the back once in awhile than the usually kick in the pants he got from his parents, other teachers, and the administration.

He ultimately dropped out of school in March, though. I heard he got his girlfriend pregnant and is now a daddy. Can't win them all, I suppose.

Point is that if you can get through to a kid by showing them what's in it for them -- where this is all going in a positive way -- then you can get 99% of them to do whatever you want. The main thing is convincing them of the value of learning. Once you've got that out of the way, the rest of your time with them is cake.

Click here to see some of my classes. Seventh period of this past year was the one with Juan in it.