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portscanner		2006-08-15 10:27:43 AM

muninsfire

Coffee, meet keyboard. Keyboard, meet coffee.

Benue		2006-08-15 10:27:49 AM

binnster

Harry Potter!

vanity		2006-08-15 10:28:34 AM

65 future criminals, dirtbags, and white trash. Yay.

PRO-Abortion 2006. Shouldn't even be a choice for these women.

Andrew Wiggin		2006-08-15 10:28:46 AM

I'd impregnate it!

BrotherTheodore		2006-08-15 10:29:30 AM

Yuck Fou!: My niece (15 y.o.) gets to use calculators in her math class.

She is stupid as hell.

I asked her what 10 times 2 was and she said "5." I am not lying or exaggerating. Then she whined and said she could answer if she had a calculator, and that she can use one in math class anyway.

So when she says she's only gone to 2nd base with a boy, what do you suppose she really means?

DammitIForgotMyLogin		2006-08-15 10:29:59 AM

SilentMattCanuck: ELEVEN??????? Kids can get PREGGERS at age 11??
NO WAY JOSE!

Pregnant at Four

inTheJungle		2006-08-15 10:30:20 AM

I'm not clear from the article, but it sounds like the previous curriculum emphasized abstinence, and the new curriculum will emphasize abstinence along with safe-sex education that actually works.

Way to go, Christian fundamentalists.

All Apologies		2006-08-15 10:30:24 AM

Thinking abstinence is a workable solution amongst teens is denying reality.

CindiBear		2006-08-15 10:30:35 AM

ELEVEN??????? Kids can get PREGGERS at age 11??
NO WAY JOSE!

Yeppers. Girl I work w/ is 30 and has a 17 year old. On the good side she realizes it was a mistake, and her daughter hasn't made the same one yet.

/loves her kid, but come on who wants a 3 year old @ 15.

Your math confuses and frightens me. 30-17=13. If she got pregnant at 12, that still wouldn't be 11.

But, yes, my cousin started her period at 9, so technically, she could have gotten pregnant then.

6655321		2006-08-15 10:31:10 AM

Now we know where Bill Clinton is teaching.

serpent_sky		2006-08-15 10:31:15 AM

vygramul:
Everyone knows that the male is ALWAYS utterly guilty, even if they're just as incapable of making the decision. (I'm thinking of an incident at Brown where both people were drunk (that is not in dispute) and had sex, but the woman successfully got the school to discipline him.)

Discipline him for what? For his poor choice in warm spot for his dick for the night? I can't stand whiney women like that.

I also hate how men are always pointed at. I mean, because an 11-year-old was knocked up, some guy should have been shot? When there is no other information whatsoever? Maybe the guy was 10, for all we know, and she pushed him for sex. We know nothing more than a really young kid had a kid.

Uninformed male-bashing, in the guise of "protecting" females is out of control.

gasconading_sesquipedalian		2006-08-15 10:31:23 AM

maybe they all just want babies. is that so wrong?!?!

Stacked Librarian		2006-08-15 10:31:30 AM

I'm not too far removed from the public school system (I'm 25), but there seemed to be a lot of calculator-ing going on in the lower level math classes. I was in accelerated math programs all the way through middle and high school (2 years of calculus... good times) and we got to use the graphing calculators... but only in class to see examples of area under the curve, etc. I knew kids in the general curriculum classes who couldn't do anything simple without a calculator. I'm not sure if it's laziness on the part of the teachers or what. I guess it's all part of the need for instant gratification so prevalent in society.

Although, I'll admit. I'd rather the dude at the DMV have a calculator at his disposal than have to sit there while he figures out how to carry the 1.

/has a math degree
//cannot stand people who think math isn't important

Egoy		2006-08-15 10:32:06 AM

portscanner: Ever been at the DMV? They had to use a calculator to subtract 1971 from 2004.

/ I do long division in my head faster than most people with a calculator

*sigh* can you solve differential equations with complex terms in your head? I can, but I don't. I really didn't want to get into this, but I will if you insist. I was top of my class in first year Calculus in university. we are talking a 99 on the final and a final grade of 96% Doing long devision is not what the calculator is used for. In fact you do not need a graphical anything to preform long devision.

Allowing students to see functions and derivatives and integrals as they interact with changes they are making is probably the best tool going. Sure I can sketch functions, but why? I'm not doing math to become some sort of computer I'm doing it to solve a problem.

russkaya-arabskaya amerikanka		2006-08-15 10:33:33 AM

This isn't flamey enough, and I have to go to work soon. So here:

This is the fault of all the conservatives who think that by not teaching kids about sex, they'll never figure out how it works, and voila, stay virgins until marriage.

I also assume that these people were never teenagers with raging hormones, or else they would know better.

Yuck Fou!		2006-08-15 10:34:52 AM

BrotherTheodore

She has a gay boyfriend. Literally. Or at least, a guy we are all convinced is gay and she is infatuated with him so we are certain they will be farking soon, if not already. We believe this because A)He is confused and wants to see if he really is gay; and B)she is weak-minded, obsessed, and will do anything he says.

So 2nd base isn't my fear - it's the home run. We have begged our mother-in-law to get her on BCP's, STAT.

tiiger		2006-08-15 10:35:29 AM

Penn and Teller's Bullshiat on Abstinence (Clicky)

GavinTheAlmighty		2006-08-15 10:36:04 AM

Unless the books are saying that the Baby Jesus pilots a stork and drops the kids off in a basket, the books aren't out of date. It's the fact that none of them nor their parents care. farking leads to babies, that isn't exactly new knowledge. Parents have to spend 20 minutes to explain how this shiat works, it isn't that hard.

Psycho Doughboy		2006-08-15 10:36:34 AM

Always use condiments when you masticate...

Yuck Fou
What math classes did you take in 9th and 10th?

muninsfire		2006-08-15 10:37:47 AM

GavinTheAlmighty: Parents have to spend 20 minutes to explain how this shiat works, it isn't that hard.

Wait, have the parents take responsibility?

You TERRORIST!

plong		2006-08-15 10:38:09 AM

I went to a Catholic HS in Ohio, and we were taught "sex ed" in Religion class, senior year. It consisted of the teacher telling us that the pope did not approve of premarital sex, or of any type of contraceptive device. So he ended up telling us about his own wife's rhythm method, and how she would chart her temperature, and then they would have sex when it was the right time of month. One word for that: Eeeeeewwwww. Seriously, in school I learned more about sex in 5th grade at the public elementary than I did in 4 years of HS.

/recovering Catholic

Wizzin		2006-08-15 10:39:13 AM

a)Birth control
b)Keep legs closed

Pick one. It isn't that complicated.

mesmer242		2006-08-15 10:39:19 AM

I have a friend in the medical field, and he's seen ultrasounds done for girls as young as 8. Because they're pregnant. It's freakin' sad.

Obviously		2006-08-15 10:40:36 AM

I love it! "Christian fundamentalists impregnated my daughter, because everyone knows it's the government's responsibility to keep my daughter from getting pregnant!"
Straw man applauds.

2wolves		2006-08-15 10:40:59 AM

6655321

Still chasing the magic clenis? How sad.

KarmicDisaster		2006-08-15 10:42:39 AM

Oops! Sorry!

ScienceRocks		2006-08-15 10:43:00 AM

R.A.Danny: Like "New Math" ?

I regularly use a math that was developed only about 20 years ago. We often refer to it as a "new math", because that's really what it is. There are still mathematicians trying to figure out some aspects of this "new math".

I doubt it would be taught in high school, but it has been an important advancement for many different fields of study in the sciences. It would be of educational interest to teach high school kids some of the precursors that are involved in this "new math", so that when they go to college - where it is being taught - they will understand it better.

germ78		2006-08-15 10:43:24 AM

Isn't there supposed to be an obligatory Fb.? reference in the headline?

/might not have the farker's handle right
//he was before my time here, but I've seen it used

serpent_sky		2006-08-15 10:43:37 AM

Some people can't do math; had I been allowed a calculator in high school, I may have learned more.

I'm fine with memorizing facts, reading comprehension, writing, languages, but I am borderline retarded when it comes to math and science. I need a calculator to do the most basic of math, or I will get it wrong. Better to have kids learn some practical theory and the way to get by -- taking their limitations into account -- than acting like everyone can learn on the same level.

A lot of the problem, too, is not dividing classes based on skill level. I should have been in the most basic of math classes, so I could learn on my own level and not hold others back [or get lost] and I should have been in the most advanced English classes, so I would not be bored by those who could not read quickly or well.

/780 verbal on SATs; 320 on math [after 3 tries.]

jdredd		2006-08-15 10:43:52 AM

Math sucks, what has it ever done for me? Only math my bank account works with is subtraction.

Yuck Fou!		2006-08-15 10:44:39 AM

Psycho Doughboy

9th - Algebra
10th - Geometry
summer btw 10th and 11th - Algebra II
11th - Math Analysis
12th - Calculus

Why?

TheGreenMonkey		2006-08-15 10:45:24 AM

muninsfire
Yeah, umm...it's possible to not have teh sausage go into the biscuit, but still get a bit of gravy nearby, which has actually resulted in another bun in the oven before.

This is classic and I will now use it forever.

That being said, and it's been said here by others, abstinence education does not work by itself, people(read kids) will do things that stretch the standards of society and this includes sex.

If we, as a society, give a better 'sex' education that includes abstinence and use of condoms or other birth control methods among other things, our children will at the very least have the tools and knowledge they need to make an informed decision.

I mean I don't want my daughter, who is 13 btw, to have sex until she is in a committed, monogamous relationship but if she does I would at least like her to be safe about it and use a condom. If nothing else other than to prevent disease or pregnancy.

I mean sex feels good, and I enjoy and partake as much as possible, and not being in a relationship at this time it would be stupid of me to come home one night with the news that I got some chick whose name I don't even know pregnant.

More knowledge about sex != automatic whoredom as so many people in this country profess.

dj4aces		2006-08-15 10:46:11 AM

So abstinence-only education isn't the answer, eh?

Who knew?

The Icelander		2006-08-15 10:46:23 AM

Everybody can do math. It's the teaching method that screws most people up.

opkoad		2006-08-15 10:46:58 AM

Ohio tag needed.

elburritobandito		2006-08-15 10:49:28 AM

McRat: reading books

as opposed to picture books?

baorao		2006-08-15 10:51:08 AM

serpent_sky: Some people can't do math; had I been allowed a calculator in high school, I may have learned more.

You weren't allowed a calculator? We weren't allowed a specific kind of calcuator (I think TI-85 and higher) because of their ability to be programmed to perform difficult equations. I understood the logic, meaning that idiots could get a smart kid to program their calculator so they answer questions they didn't really understand. But realistically if you can program the calculator, when is your employer ever going to say I want this done, error free, without the use of technology. Stupid teachers.

germ78		2006-08-15 10:51:51 AM

Ah, a little googling reveals the handle to be -Fb. My bad.

Man, that abstinence thing is really working out well for them in Canton.

elburritobandito		2006-08-15 10:52:09 AM

serpent_sky: I'd suggest flying in planes to carpet the lawn of the school with leaflets about abortion.

leaflets with coat hangers attached.

/i'll have the chicken

LaRoach		2006-08-15 10:52:15 AM

And who the hell can even have a baby at eleven?

The school where my wife works has second graders who are fully aware of sex and the, er, mechanics involved. Some fourth graders are sexually active. In addition a fourth grader was gang raped by a group of fifth graders.

Get's better, she teaches in a very poor school. The culture is one that condones young girls finding older "men" because the family figures she's found herself a decent provider. The result is that child molestation cases are pretty common.

mr finger		2006-08-15 10:52:32 AM

I blame rap music.

GavinTheAlmighty		2006-08-15 10:53:13 AM

muninsfire

Terrorist?

*BOOM* headbutt!

www.zidanehead.com

Round-Sparrow		2006-08-15 10:53:51 AM

5 year old preggers

telemakhos		2006-08-15 10:53:56 AM

I had to sub for a math class during a planning bell once, when their teacher suddenly took ill. She left them multiple-choices problems to review for a Standards of Learning test. One question asked for the square root of 30. The stuedents immediately pulled out their calculators and began whacking away.

I told them to stop and look at the answers. One was five, one six, one between those, and one outside them. The problem was fairly obviously set up to see if they could realize that thirty lies between twenty-five and thirty-six, the squares of five and six. For one knowing one's squares, the problem was soluable at the first blink.

These students had never learned their squares. Their teacher simply had them using the calculator for everything. They'd have saved time on their test, were this a real test, by knowing mathematics instead of leaning how to punch buttons.

RyoShin		2006-08-15 10:54:17 AM

SilentMattCanuck: ELEVEN??????? Kids can get PREGGERS at age 11??
NO WAY JOSE!

The youngest recorded pregnancy is something like 7 years old.

And yes, ew.

Fellate O'Fish		2006-08-15 10:54:20 AM

plong
I went to a Catholic HS in Ohio, and we were taught "sex ed" in Religion class, senior year. It consisted of the teacher telling us that the pope did not approve of premarital sex, or of any type of contraceptive device. So he ended up telling us about his own wife's rhythm method, and how she would chart her temperature, and then they would have sex when it was the right time of month.

I hear you. I also went to Catholic HS in Ohio. As did my brother.

And I've got two nieces and a nephew who'll tell you that the rhythm method doesn't work.

BrotherTheodore		2006-08-15 10:54:39 AM

Yuck Fou!: So 2nd base isn't my fear - it's the home run. We have begged our mother-in-law to get her on BCP's, STAT.

Sure, but given her 'trouble' with math, it's possible she has the base numbers mixed up a bit?

"A Home Run! No way is he getting to FIRST! Second base is my limit!"

draelyn		2006-08-15 10:54:45 AM

Gee, you'd think that they were using the Sex Ed guidelines of the Bush administration with numbers like that... no surprise it's a red state...

/Condoms, folks... if you're gonna fark, use condoms...

muninsfire		2006-08-15 10:55:24 AM

LaRoach: The school where my wife works has second graders who are fully aware of sex and the, er, mechanics involved. Some fourth graders are sexually active. In addition a fourth grader was gang raped by a group of fifth graders.

Get's better, she teaches in a very poor school. The culture is one that condones young girls finding older "men" because the family figures she's found herself a decent provider. The result is that child molestation cases are pretty common.

......that's one farked up school system, dude.

/I didn't know of anyone who was sexually active until 7th grade.
//Always made me wonder why THAT kid was gettin' it on.

StandsWithAFist		2006-08-15 10:55:38 AM

plong:
I also went to Catholic HS in Ohio, and can definitely relate. We were taught only 1) abstinence, and 2) the rhythm method...by a nun. We were also taught fornicating is eeeevvvillll, and that girls who had abortions & didn't repent would go to hell (with their babies going to Limbo). Even more ironic was that the girls who did get pregnant & decided to have/keep their babies were either kicked out of school or treated as lepers by the nuns. The ultimate irony? Girls who magically became "unpregnant" were a-okay with the school admin.

/another recovering Catholic
//likes Taoism a lot better

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