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(ABC)   Cops shoot peaceful protester with rubber bullets and then laugh heartily about it afterwards, on videotape   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 1249
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2006-08-11 02:07:48 PM
If you have a problem and you call the police, you now have two problems. There is absolutely nothing that makes a police officer a more responsible person than any other citizen. They simply receive better protection from the reprocussions of their actions than any but the most wealthy citizen. Police officers are typically held to a lower standard than most citizens, risking suspension or expulsion for offenses that would result in prison time for anyone else. Seems a bit backwards but that appears to be how the American people want it, so that's just how its going to be. And if you don't believe that then you need to reread this thread one more time and note the vast quantity of responses that find it amusing that police are rampantly firing lethal weaponry into large crowds with minimal provocation. At their best, police are a necessary evil of living within a society, and police are rarely ever at their best.
 
2006-08-11 02:07:57 PM
legal targets for real bullets under Florida's "stand your ground laws".

You might want to ask a real lawyer about that...
 
2006-08-11 02:07:58 PM

So I guess what I'm saying is, I didn't RTFA, but I know enough to assume the protester was probably not wearing a suit, and probably was really annoying. Doesn't make it any better, but it doesn't make me as mad.


sorry but the protester was a lawyer and wearing her lawyering clothes, aka a suit :( better luck next time!
 
2006-08-11 02:08:13 PM
vanity

Eh - there's no point arguing. You're still going to block my roads and businesses with your stupid farkign cause b/c you think it's your God given right to protest and get in the way of others. That's why you protest down busy streets right? To distrupt at many lives as possible for your plight.

Ya, you can protest in America, but it's not your right to inconveince me and the thousands of others who have to stand idly by as you cause a scene, make lots of noise, and generally prohibit me from going about my dailly life b/c of an agenda YOU want.

I dont give a fark about your agenda. Nor you. That's why I hate protestors. YOU DONT REPRESENT EVERYONE. STOP THINKING YOU DO. STOP BLOCKING OUR LIVES FOR WHAT *YOU* WANT.


You make it sound as if there is a countless stream of protests every single day that keeps you from ever leaving your house! Where do you live? I live in the capital of the free-farking-world (for now) and protests that really fark up traffic, etc..seem to happen maybe once a year.

Get over yourself.

P.S. You have just as much of a right to counter-protest. That must make your head asplode.
 
2006-08-11 02:08:44 PM
I'm actually surprised at how many Farkers are accepting of totalitarianism.

And yes, it's funny when Cartman makes fun of "hippies", everyone else?

You look like closed-minded assholes.
 
2006-08-11 02:08:51 PM
vanity


God I hate society.

I really, really hate society.


img.fark.com
 
2006-08-11 02:09:01 PM
i see nothing wrong here. shooting hippies has never been a crime.
 
2006-08-11 02:09:04 PM
vanity

If the 60s and 70s are too back in the day for you. What about the ending of Aparthied in South Africa (early 1990s)? Yes, there was violence on both sides, however, many of the the most meaningful protests were made by unarmed schoolchildren. Too bad the cops shot the hell out of them... and they didn't use rubber bullets.

Try Gandhi, Cry Freedom, or Madela & DeKlerk if you're into movies. Cry, the Beloved Country is an excellent read too.

/delete my first India post please
//damn, I'm feeding an idiot troll
 
2006-08-11 02:09:22 PM
vanity

God I hate society.

I really, really hate society.


If only there was some sort of constitutionally legal way of attempting to alter a society you disagree with...
 
2006-08-11 02:09:22 PM
She then turns toward the officers and asks, "Did you shoot me? A lady in a suit? Who has been walking peaceably in front of you for half an hour and you shot me when my back was turned?"

How bad was she hurt again? Sounds like it could not have been that bad. And who cares what she was wearing or what she was doing a half hour?
 
2006-08-11 02:09:49 PM
canyoneer
What I find interesting is that so many people who worship Amendment II ignore Amendment I.

The NRA publishes a pro-gun news magazine called "America's First Freedom".

I guess religion and free speech aren't as significant.
 
2006-08-11 02:10:01 PM
vanity
God I hate society.
I really, really hate society.


Good, then I invite you to check out.
 
2006-08-11 02:10:51 PM
One day vanity will realize the feeling is mutual...

/if he hasn't already
 
2006-08-11 02:11:08 PM
Any projectile thrown at a protesting crowd. As any paintball player knows, all it takes is one rubber bullet entering any soft orifice (ocular cavity, oral) to enter the brain and kill a protester. I'm sure they wouldn't be laughing then.

A civilian review board may not know the danger of rubber bullets.
 
2006-08-11 02:11:21 PM
What, no Florida tag?
 
2006-08-11 02:11:54 PM
Going back to work now...
the rest of you,, enjoy your sheeyat sandwich.
You know who you are.
 
2006-08-11 02:12:25 PM
gilgigamesh: I believe I did.

No you don't. You're trying to insert this woman's facts into my nice little hypo. If you're legally and morally justified in using a rubber bullet, is it wrong to laugh later?

NYMoogle: Trust me.

But, see, I don't. If your argument is that there are no good cops and that their otherwise-justifiable actions are somehow rendered inappropriate by their evil souls, then we just don't have much more to talk about on this topic.

So, how do you like the Giants this year?
 
2006-08-11 02:12:43 PM
Mike Norman...This woman was anything but a hippie. Maybe you should try to RTFA before commenting. She was a lawyer, wearing a business suit.
 
2006-08-11 02:13:08 PM
vanity: I suggest you move to a large metropolitan area like NY, LA, or Chicago. There cops are your friends.

I live in NY. Cops are not your friend, especially if you're black. I've ridden the subway many times, especially after that unconstitutional and fascist bag-search law. I'm white. I never get searched. My fellow Arab and Black New Yorkers? They get searched, constantly. When a bunch of cops are riding the subways and laughing about beating the crap out of people they arrested, you start to rethink the tools of law enforcement in our country.

My one positive experience with a cop was when I had to call them to save my life from a guy who was trying to kill me and was beating the crap out of his mentally disabled little brother.

Remember - Amadou Diallo and Abner Louima happened in New York. The 2004 Republican convention happened in New York. For every hero who ran into the WTC, there are seven assholes who racially profile, beat up or shoot protestors, and interfere with lawful behavior because they feel entitled.
 
2006-08-11 02:13:19 PM
Cerebral Ballsy

Any projectile thrown at a protesting crowd. As any paintball player knows, all it takes is one rubber bullet entering any soft orifice (ocular cavity, oral) to enter the brain and kill a protester. I'm sure they wouldn't be laughing then.

A civilian review board may not know the danger of rubber bullets.


That's why they should use rock-salt and fire hoses. But people are a little touchie on the fire hose thing.
 
2006-08-11 02:13:33 PM
OregonVet: You don't have to mock me, angryred, I merely pointed that out b/c you used an integration picture. But the resegreggation is no laughing matter. It is underway- I think North Carolina NAACP is doing it.

Sorry. My moron blaster was on autofire when you tapped me on the shoulder, and I accidentally peppered you.

But just as I don't think that these cops are representative of law enforcement in general (shouldn't be, anyway), I don't think the resegregationists are representative of blacks in general. I hear nothing about that sort of thing around here, and Houston has a large black population. But if people want to live apart, more power to them. In the sixties, forced segregation was the issue.

Mormons have created a practically segregated state for themselves. There's also a christian movement for a state ruled by biblical law, which is also, I believe, aimed at North Carolina. If groups of people wish to insulate themselves, that's their prerogative. I doubt that the blacks in North Carolina opting to segregate themselves are looking for the return of whites-only drinking fountains; but to be honest, I can't say that for certain, either.

If there's one thing the internet has shown us, it's that no matter what weirdo, off-the-beam thing you're into, there are a million other people out there that are actually into that too.
 
2006-08-11 02:13:45 PM
I submitted this exact link, with a better headline, three days ago, and it wasn't greenlighted.

/mods are 'tards.
 
2006-08-11 02:14:14 PM
Sylaak . . . good job being proud of your capitalist pig lifestyle.

How about you come down to Mexico with me to see where your Gap shirts were made. Ass. You live in a bubble.
 
2006-08-11 02:14:25 PM
ffacker: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Morally and professionally inappropriate, but who hasn't wanted to shoot a bunch of uptight holier-than-thou morons with rubber bullets?!!!


Uh oh. If ffacker shows up at a Fark meet, he's gonna open up on everybody.
 
2006-08-11 02:14:26 PM
What is wrong with laughing? It was only rubber bullets after all. How bad can it hurt? Wussy.

"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence."

~Mahatma Gandhi

This one is better...

"I love to go to the schoolyard and watch the children jump and shout, but they don't know I'm using blanks."

~Jack Handy "Deep Thoughts"
 
2006-08-11 02:14:48 PM
I KNOW!!!!

start showing up to protests armed and shoot back. this did happen in FLORIDA for dead baby jesus' sake!

or have a day where everyone shoots a cop.

/not me though.
//would NEVER do it.
///leave me be with my beer and car
 
2006-08-11 02:15:19 PM
wingnut396: Sure there may only be a few power tripping trouble makers, but the probles is the coverups and protection that are given to these morons. That is what makes all cops look bad.


LOOK bad? Providing coverup and protection for the trouble makers makes you a BAD COP. Looking the other way is not excusable.

Christ, if the bar is so low for acceptable behavior, then I understand why some of you think there are so many terrific cops. I mean, if it's just a little perjury here and there what's the problem, right?
 
2006-08-11 02:15:32 PM
SchrodingersCar

If only there was some sort of constitutionally legal way of attempting to alter a society you disagree with...


It's a lot easier for me to get fired up, pretend that I'm Goku, and mentally destroy as many people as I can with a destructive and horrific energy burst. Goku was awesome like that. So pissed off he EXPLODES.

Then, I can return to my day as normal.

Protestors, pundits, political people live everyday frustrated. I like to be happy. I don't want to be one of those people who argue with everyone at every chance b/c they're trying to "show the world". I'll argue on Fark, but when I close it, I've effectively vaporized all of you and can forget about it.
 
2006-08-11 02:16:10 PM
vampiresareundeadpeople2
I believe it is also ok, no, an act of kindness to shoot a lawyer
 
2006-08-11 02:16:14 PM
Could some please show where in TFA there is one word about protestor's throwing ANYTHING at the police,? Even the police don't claim that in the article. Near as I can tell DJMED just made that up as a strawman for the purpose justifying the actions of a group of psychopaths. Nowhere in the article does it say anybody did anything to provoke the police except breathing.
 
2006-08-11 02:17:02 PM
For every hero who ran into the WTC, there are seven assholes who racially profile, beat up or shoot protestors, and interfere with lawful behavior because they feel entitled.

That fact smells like it's been pulled from your ass.
 
2006-08-11 02:17:29 PM
img116.imageshack.us

Wow man ... I think I'm gonna smoke some Chronic then go protest the corporate pigs at the WTO ...
 
2006-08-11 02:17:38 PM
filth

So then your hypothetical is that this woman was actually in the process of hurling a brick and was stopped with a hail of rubber bullets?

Well, despite not being remotely close to what happened, ok, I would say that would be understandable.

But since I don't think even the cops claim this, I don't understand your point. Even assuming protestors were throwing rocks, there is no question that the cops were laughing over a tape of an unarmed woman getting shot in the back, then in the forehead as she sat went down.

So I guess I don't get your point here.
 
2006-08-11 02:17:40 PM
Protests do serve a useful purpose. They incite bad cops to show their true colors.
 
2006-08-11 02:18:10 PM
VANITY:

"Protestors, pundits, political people live everyday frustrated. I like to be happy. I don't want to be one of those people who argue with everyone at every chance b/c they're trying to "show the world". I'll argue on Fark, but when I close it, I've effectively vaporized all of you and can forget about it."

That's because you have no soul. I suggest joining the Peace Corps or taking a trip to a third world country, and then maybe you'll see why you should care and be frustrated. You are sick. The worst kind of human. Complacent.
 
2006-08-11 02:18:40 PM
filth

So then your hypothetical is that this woman was in the process of hurling a brick and was stopped with a hail of rubber bullets?

Well, despite not being remotely close to what happened, ok, I would say that a little levity at the incident would be understandable.

But since I don't think even the cops claim this, I don't understand your point. Even assuming protestors were throwing rocks, there is no question that the cops were laughing over a tape of an unarmed woman getting shot in the back, then in the forehead as she went down.

So I guess I don't get your point here.
 
2006-08-11 02:18:53 PM
vanity: My loyal fascist protesting troops are blocking the main roadways to get media attention.

You're calling protestors fascists in a thread about authorities shooting peaceful protestors for fun (w/less-lethal force)? Protesting against authority=fascist? Nice. Can't figure out if you're a troll or an idiot.
 
2006-08-11 02:19:28 PM
Whoops, double post.

Sry.
 
2006-08-11 02:19:35 PM
I've only known 3 police officers personally (outside of their work), and all three of them were definite authoritarians and generally assholes.
 
2006-08-11 02:20:09 PM
I love cops like this, don't break the law and you won't be shot at. it's as simple as that.

Plus, I get off to police brutatlity, but I guess that's why I'm one of 'em.
 
2006-08-11 02:20:14 PM
I wish this had happened to Fred Phelps and his crew. Then it would be teh funny!
 
2006-08-11 02:20:14 PM
GavinTheAlmighty: That fact smells like it's been pulled from your ass.

there seem to be an awful lot of people in this thread that run into the 1% of bad cops...
 
2006-08-11 02:20:19 PM
vampiresareundeadpeople2
Mike Norman...This woman was anything but a hippie. Maybe you should try to RTFA before commenting. She was a lawyer, wearing a business suit.


I have more sympathy for hippies.
 
2006-08-11 02:20:41 PM
I'm sure as a Florida cop you must know that - it certainly appears like that's what you're pretending to be.

Please do not impute ANY knowledge or training to the Uniformed Officer in Florida.

2 years of ridiculously grade-inflated JuCo and a few trips to the range and our Finest are immediately qualified to make instant decisions affecting people's most precious rights. Great system we have, here.

The best cops in Florida go to the Highway patrol, ASAP. Good safe job, nice retirement system. The next level of intelligent cop goes into the myriad of specialized law enforcement most of don't see, BATF, wildlife, wardens, etc.
One step below, and we're getting down to average intelligence and work ethic, etc: These guys are the sargeants, asst. Chiefs, Lieut.s, "supervisors", etc.
The last rung of the ladder, the bottom of the huge policing morass includes all the rookies, all the cops who can't make a rank score, all the cops who wish they were somewhere else.
 
2006-08-11 02:21:40 PM
Everyone of you "she deserved it" crowd, please get the fark out of America on the next floating buick out.

This country, OUR country was founded upon freedom of expression and ideals (so long as they are not violent about it.)

This lady was not violent, so according to some logic I have seen, if your neighbor down the block was assembling a terrorist training camp in his basement and the military leveled the whole block, killing all of your family, they (your family) would deserve it, for being in proximity of a law breaking asshat?

Fark you "I hate hippies" crowd.

I hate neo-cons, doesn't mean that I wish to physically harm them or those that facilitate their ideas.
 
2006-08-11 02:21:40 PM
It's important for citizens to continually test cops to be sure they don't abuse their authority. Those that do have no business being cops.
 
2006-08-11 02:22:02 PM
Pockafrusta
What is wrong with laughing? It was only rubber bullets after all. How bad can it hurt? Wussy.


Let's see YOU take one then since it doesnt hurt too bad...pussy.
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2006-08-11 02:23:34 PM
Vid of Ritter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN9bKF5aWEU

Copy and paste biatches. Enjoy :)
 
2006-08-11 02:23:46 PM
I love cops like this, don't break the law and you won't be shot at. it's as simple as that.


Don't become a cop and you won't become a traitor to the ideals of a nation my family members died to protect. Simple as that.

Protest: American as Apple Pie
Shooting Protesters in the Back: As Nazi as scat-porn and eugenics.
 
2006-08-11 02:23:54 PM
Hippy hatred is in the air. Or is that something else I smell?
 
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