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2006-07-31 04:01:31 PM  
14 million automatic transmissions die every year in the United States... 9 out of 10 from heat related problems.

That's a lot of dead transmissions.
 
2006-07-31 04:01:43 PM  
So does this mean I can leave my keys in my car and leave the doors unlocked?

/'05 Z, 6-speed manual
 
2006-07-31 04:08:53 PM  
Valarius: Case in point: The U.S. military. All Humvees are automatic. No one wants to screw around with changing gears when you're getting shot at.

A larger reason was that they had too few troops able to drive a manual, and did not want to spend the time or money teaching them.
 
2006-07-31 04:10:07 PM  
HandsomeRyan

4 speed automatic ... but it will still smoke mostly any smaller cars even with manual transformers off a stoplight.

/never driven a manual car


No shiat you haven't. Automatic will lose against an experienced manual driver any day of the week. Whenever I drive a friend's automatic, it's like I'm stuck in molasses. I've been leant the auto version of my car when mine's in the shop and it's the same deal.

And yeah, kingdoc's an idiot. Yeah, no reason whatsoever. I mean, who cares if the car is like $1500 cheaper, and gets better mileage, and doesn't have an expensive automatic transmission to maintain? Those things are for wusses. Not to mention having a lot more control over your car.
 
2006-07-31 04:10:49 PM  
Around here (Denmark) automatic transmissions are for cabs and lazy wealthy people.

Never driven one myself, and I'm sure it'll freak me the hell out. Plus, shifting gears is part of the fun of driving!
 
2006-07-31 04:11:53 PM  
Let me guess Car-B'-Que? Happend to a friend of mine when he took his in for a new fuel tank. The Bimmer gods also took out the entire garage the car was in.

Nothing so drastic. One of the straps beneath the fuel tank broke and started dragging the ground. The other strap is intact, as is everything holding the tank in place. The shop tells me that it may be ready today (I took it in last night), though I may not have time to get it until tomorrow.

Do tell about your friend's experience.
 
2006-07-31 04:14:48 PM  
BassPlayinManiac: //VW Bus' are by far one of the hardest manuel cars to drive, if you are questioning this statement you have never driven a VW bus

¿qué?
 
2006-07-31 04:16:18 PM  
Whenever I drive a friend's automatic, it's like I'm stuck in molasses.

Do you get that problem where you hit the throttle hard and still have to wait for the car to s-l-o-w-l-y build up to speed where in a manual you could just make sure that you're in a low gear and you'd zip past 3000RPMs in a second?

I hate that.
 
2006-07-31 04:20:15 PM  
Not everything with a transmission and wheels/tracks is a passenger car. If you ever find yourself wanting to move one of those other things, it is likely that you'll need to know how to use a clutch. I'm not saying knowing how to use a manual transmission autombile qualifies you as a big rig operator, but it gives you a fighting chance if you need to roll the thing off some guy (the driver's) foot.
 
2006-07-31 04:22:36 PM  
Dimensio: Do you get that problem where you hit the throttle hard and still have to wait for the car to s-l-o-w-l-y build up to speed where in a manual you could just make sure that you're in a low gear and you'd zip past 3000RPMs in a second?

I hate that.


Or when you're driving up a hill with curves and it can't pick a gear and stick with it?
 
2006-07-31 04:25:08 PM  
adenosine: Or when you're driving up a hill with curves and it can't pick a gear and stick with it?

Or how about when a soccer mom/dad that has never heard of a manual transmission pulls 3 inches off your rear bumper at a red light on a hill.
 
2006-07-31 04:28:41 PM  
I got a (5spd) skyline gts-t. I actually enjoy driving it, and frequently go out just for the thrill of cruising around. Its just not the same thing compared to an auto. My buddy has a automatic Soarer (roughly equal specs) and that isnt half as fun to drive. Why the heck would someone want a car that basically drives itself? Wheres the fun in that? Where is the skill in just stomping on it?
 
2006-07-31 04:43:02 PM  
Adenosine:
Except for the 'reliability' and 'less cost' and 'greater control over the engine' and 'better gas milage' part.

Reliability?, there are thousands of parts that can break.
Less cost? true.
'greater control over the engine'? At the loss of control over the car itself because you don't have 2 hands on the wheel. Your car is not going far after you wrap it around a tree.
'better gas milage'? Get a modern, more fuel efficient car if that's a big concern.


jman11jman:
1). There are still a lot of cars that are manual, particuarly if you leave the USA. Life is easier if you are versatile. It is not difficult to come up with scenarios where driving someone else's car might be useful. Hell, some cars don't even have automatic transmissions.

2). Automatic transmissions are not as realiable as manuals. They are a complex machine that breaks down, a manual transmission is much simpler.

3). Automatic transmissions are more expensive (see previous post).

4). Automatic transmissions are less efficient (I don't give a shiat what that number says).

5). Knowing how to drive a manual forces you to learn more about the car.

6). Manuals are safer than automatics.


1a) If you leave the US your going to fly. If you want to rent a car at your destination I will bet they will have a modern automatic. And yes, some cars don't have an automatic ... that's what were discussing here.

2a) Because clutches never burn out...... There are thousands of parts that can die on a car. Adding in the human asshatery factor may in fact make standards less reliable.

3a) The cost is negotiable, 750 to 1100 bucks. If your cutting it that close in cost then perhaps a cheaper car is in order.

4a) If you can make every shift absolutely perfect then yes, And even then the cost is negotiable.

5a) No, WANTING to learn more about the car forces you to learn more about the car. You could just drop it off at the shop and say "it feels funny when I shift" and leave at that.
6a) absolutely FALSE. The exact opposite is true. Starting with an automatic leaves both hands free to use on the wheel and having one less pedal means less chance for your foot to slip off one.

SiON42X:

Ninja'ed and pwnet, lol!!


I would like to add that I never said sticks were bad, Just unnesery and outdated. I bet they probably do add to the fun of driving. If you think moving a metal bar is fun.
 
2006-07-31 04:47:17 PM  
movieimage.nate.com
Well, turns out Foster here can't drive a stick...

When my siblings and I were teenagers, my dad made sure that he taught us all how to drive stick-shift before we got our licenses. Said that you never knew when you would be in a situation when you needed to drive one. I doubt that this situation was one he had in mind. Out of the four of us, only two (including myself) retained that knowledge and still drive manual.
 
2006-07-31 04:48:42 PM  
kingdoc: If you leave the US your [sic] going to fly. If you want to rent a car at your destination I will bet they will have a modern automatic.

Not in the UK they don't, at least not where I went last year. My rented Peugeot was a manual... even the "luxury" cars I saw (Mercs, Beamers, top-end Rovers etc) were all manual. It was five days into my trip before I walked past a Jag that had an auto.
 
2006-07-31 04:57:52 PM  
I have a camry with a stick, quite rare for its age. I take great satisfaction that punk ass kids will never steal it because they can't drive it...

/ (most) Americans suck at driving
 
2006-07-31 05:07:33 PM  
kingdoc: Reliability?, there are thousands of parts that can break.

Look at a design for a manual transmission. Look at a design for a automatic transmission. There is no question that a manual transmission is of a much simpler design. A simpler design means more realiablity.

2a) Because clutches never burn out...... There are thousands of parts that can die on a car. Adding in the human asshatery factor may in fact make standards less reliable.

You realize, that in contrast to one (relatively) easily replaceable clutch, automatics have quite a number of clutches, all controlled by solenoids or hydrolics?

Manual transmissions are simplier to make very well. This is very good when you are buying a cheap car from a company that isn't well known for great automatic transmissions.
 
2006-07-31 05:08:34 PM  
Several years ago, I saw an article which stated that only one driver in six (presumably in the US) could drive a stick.

I drove a stick for forty years, but having to stomp on a competition Getrag clutch every few seconds in traffic while suffering from a herniated disc and sciatic pain finally put an end to it.

But everyone should know how to drive a stick. Regardless of statements made here, there are a lot of places in the world where you won't get an automatic.

Don't believe me? Watch The Amazing Race sometime.
 
2006-07-31 05:12:28 PM  
First manual transmission I ever drove was a motorcycle, it sucks. There's a reason manual transmissions were invented.
 
2006-07-31 05:21:29 PM  
adenosine: savage henry: It doesn't help that emissions rating are slanted against manual transmissions.

How is this?



There was a pretty big article in one of the science magazines about it( Popular Mechanics I think). Something to do with the way the tests were conducted, made the manual cars seem much worse than they actually were.
 
2006-07-31 05:22:16 PM  
Clutching & shifting gears is my favorite part of driving. There is just no subtitute, and people who've only driven automatics don't realize the control they're missing. It is so much more than just another thing to do while driving. It makes you part of the machine. It forces you to be a better driver, because you have to pay attention.

It makes me sad when I read reviews of hot new sports cars with their fake manual transmissions, clutchless paddle shifting, etc.. Someday the manual transmission will be gone, and with it, the essence of the automobile experience.
 
2006-07-31 05:24:20 PM  
"First manual transmission I ever drove was a motorcycle, it sucks. There's a reason manual transmissions were invented."

....because they suck?
 
2006-07-31 05:37:48 PM  
I learned to drive on a manual and in fact have never driven an automatic. The whole concept seems strange to me. I think I'd feel like I wasn't in control of the car.

Everyone should learn to drive one. My guy friends get so embarrassed when they learn a chick can drive a stick and they can't.
 
2006-07-31 05:54:20 PM  
Another benifit for manual transmissions is when your transformer goes out after 150K+ miles.

It's around $500 for a manual transmission for a Honda Civic installed. $1500 for an automatic transmission for the same car...

\will drive a stick till my leg falls off
\\always play racing games using manual transmission game devs are purists
 
2006-07-31 05:58:43 PM  
xtex

I've never driven an automatic transmission car before. I'm sure it'll freak me out when I try to hit the clutch and there's no pedal there.

Try bringing your left foot up on the seat and sitting on it. It might fall asleep, but it worked for me the first time I had to drive a rental. Stupid rental...
...speaking of, last time I was in Italy, the car rental companies DID offer automatics - at twice the price of manuals.
/Special price for lazy Americans!
 
2006-07-31 06:24:12 PM  
I learned to drive a stick shift by the simple expedience of driving my new Toyota to work one morning. My dad drove it home from the dealer.

Previous to the above incident, I had been nagged and nagged to get my military driver's license in the Army. I said sure, just give me a little time to practice on the manual transmission. Somehow it was not so important anymore. Idiots.
 
2006-07-31 06:35:15 PM  
I learned to drive stick on a ride-on lawnmower, and while test driving my current Civic. The salesman wasn't impressed with my complete lack of skill, but just ground his teeth because he wanted the sale. BTW Honda auto transmissions suck, vive la manual.
 
2006-07-31 06:35:33 PM  
I drive a manual. 2000 Honda Civic, 5-speed. I learned how to drive a stick when I was 16. The Honda is my 2nd manual.

/I am a woman.
//My husband thinks it's teh hot that I drive the manual.
 
2006-07-31 07:17:52 PM  
FWIW: in almost 10 years of working on cars i've never replaced a manual trans. In hot weather I will replace about one automatic every week. If you know how to drive and don't abuse your clutch it will last for as long as an automatic trans will. Automatics have their place, but I have always preffered standard

/have driven 3, 4, 5, and 6 speeds
// oh, and 7, 9, 10, 13, and 18
/// they do make automatic big rigs now (but less reliable)
 
2006-07-31 08:07:53 PM  
My first car was an '84 Honda Prelude, 5-speed manual. I had only about an hour's worth of practice on a manual before I got that car, so when I first got the 'lude I did stall it a few times while coming off of lights, stopping, etc. But it wasn't long before I learned how to do it, and not much longer before I learned to do it WELL. (Had to burn the clutch out once, but hey, it was used and half-burnt already!)

I didn't get another manual until a couple cars later - a '98 VW Jetta GLX. THAT was fun to drive; a V6 versus the 4-cyl in the 'lude. Alas, it was my last manual transmission; now my wife, who doesn't drive manuals and doesn't want to learn, prefers I have an automatic in case she needs to drive my vehicle sometimes. Yes, I could teach her, but I haven't had sufficient energy for that fight yet.

I'm considering trading in my SUV for a 5-spd 4cyl Corrolla for economy reasons anyway, that might be a good way to get her on board with manuals.
 
2006-07-31 08:09:05 PM  
UncleFirendly


Uh.. Nope... Auto's are faster.

Now, as a super avid, soon to have a 6 speed, would only ever buy a manual kind of guy, the same car, same engine, with an automtic with a larger stall converter WILL beat the same thing in auto, regardless of the driver..

That said, it's really only important if you seriously drag your car.. Otherwise, manual FTW.
 
2006-07-31 08:19:22 PM  
Another benefit to driving a manual: if your battery is dead, you can push-start the car.
 
2006-07-31 09:16:13 PM  
The beauty of the manual transmission is that you drive the car. In an auto, the car drives you (where did Yakov go now that I need him).

Only auto I ever owned was a '72 Impala. I swapped out the TH-350 (auto) for a T-10 (manual) when the TH-350 died and have been driving maunals ever since.

/Unfortunately due to the manual safety switch you can't push start a lot of manuals now a days. Glad my jeep has the manual safety switch on a fused circuit so it can be bypassed by removing the fuse


/'72 Impala
//Damn, I'm old.
///Hey kid, don't drive that auto on my lawn.
 
2006-07-31 09:52:25 PM  
misanthropic1: I learned to drive stick on a ride-on lawnmower, and while test driving my current Civic. The salesman wasn't impressed with my complete lack of skill, but just ground his teeth because he wanted the sale. BTW Honda auto transmissions suck, vive la manual.

The irony here is that Honda auto-transmissions are almost like hydraulically operated manuals as opposed to the clutch and band systems that most others use, which is why they have a much "clunkier" shift feel than others. They even used to have semi-automatic transmissions based on the same innards (Hondamatic) that you had to shift manually but didn't have to clutch because they had torque converters. My mom's old '87 civic had this (actually it still does, it's still running).

I don't think anything had as crappy a transmission as the old Ford Tempo that I learned to drive manual on; that thing was mushy as hell. It was a pleasure to drive a 30 year old jeep after driving that thing, much crisper
 
2006-07-31 10:32:29 PM  
ChiliBoots:

I was test-driving post-2000 models, not sure if they're still hydraulic, my complaint was that the gas was hyper-touchy and wound up way more than necessary, I love their standard transmission though. I'm sure a Tempo sucks, but a 1975 VW combi with the pop-top may be worse, though having 2 beds kinda makes up for it; road-tripmobile.
 
2006-07-31 10:37:20 PM  
Something to do with the way the tests were conducted, made the manual cars seem much worse than they actually were.

Forcing the car to test in first gear, meaning higher RPMs that at auto would have in the test, burning more fuel and thus releasing more exhaust?
 
2006-07-31 11:27:20 PM  
misanthropic1: I was test-driving post-2000 models, not sure if they're still hydraulic, my complaint was that the gas was hyper-touchy and wound up way more than necessary

I believe the transmissions are more or less the same design, but I've heard the complaint about the touchy throttle in the post 2000 models from others too. That's a real bummer, one of the major reasons that I bought my '95 civic is that the steering, gas and brakes were much stiffer than most of the other contemporary compacts out there. The cars with touchy gas pedals drove me nuts, especially for driving in winter with heavy boots on. If you can't feel the pedals through your boots, yet the slightest touch sends the car wild that can be an issue on slick roads.
 
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