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2006-07-29 06:40:18 PM
I'd say this is more Interesting than anything else.
 
2006-07-29 06:58:37 PM
because The Dish network is a religious requirement in Islam.
 
2006-07-29 09:19:35 PM
I hear the Amish are PISSED!
 
2006-07-29 09:52:40 PM
IIRC, out here in Ontario it's illegal to ban sat dishes because it doesn't allow competition.

Usually there are other solutions, MDU splitters, ect. The most frequent ban is on how they're mounted not the use.
 
2006-07-29 10:46:34 PM
Jack Van Impe will declare a Fatwa against Halifax Condominium Corporation No. 4!

/Mixing it up?
 
2006-07-30 12:31:44 AM
This is the only time I'm glad that FCC regulations exist in the US to prevent this kind of BS from homeowners associations.
 
2006-07-30 12:31:59 AM
HD TV is my religion.
 
2006-07-30 12:32:09 AM
Most of us worship our TVs. This just makes it official.
 
2006-07-30 12:33:00 AM
I think this is because of the so-called "dish villaiges" or whatever that spring up in densely-Muslim communities.
 
2006-07-30 12:33:58 AM
Good luck, man! I hope you win this case. Any way to get them to respect your property rights is worth trying.
 
2006-07-30 12:36:01 AM
The voices in my head said I need a new antenna.
 
2006-07-30 12:42:57 AM
my condo tried to pull the same thing, but once I showed them that I knew something about the FCC rules they backed off-

\take that HOA biotches!!
 
2006-07-30 12:44:25 AM
"The bylaw has a discriminating effect in that it prevents him from receiving Arabic and Muslim language and programming essential for his religion and his family," said Jennifer Ross, Assal's lawyer.

Wow, those first few thousand years of the religion must have sucked then. "The secret to salvation will be previewed on channel 63, as soon as television is invented in 1700 years. Until then, please do not die as you will not be saved and will suffer eternal damnation."
 
2006-07-30 12:48:48 AM
Well in canaduh, sattellite is somewhat better than the greedy government loving cable companies like rogers and shaw...Did you know about the censorship that is on the canadian tv systems...It's called canadian heritage or some crap like that. Can't let them canadians be twarted by american commercials or better american programming...USA .USA. USA.

/Oh no. The heritage minister will hate me now.
//Big whoop.
///Anyone else hate the neverending ,overly repeated, brick commercial on fox spokane?
////A sale that continues yearround is not a sale.
//But if the sale stops for 30 minutes...It's a sale.
 
2006-07-30 12:55:06 AM
Ah but if it was preventing the reception of the whole panalopy of "Jeezuz died, Jeezuz saves YOU!, Send me money!!" channels, then what a hulabaloo would ensue.

Eagleman-you get Spokane Fox? You must be another Alberta guy. Continual, crappy adverts for the brick is bad-but you should stay up late and see the ones for various psychics, etc.
 
2006-07-30 12:55:18 AM
It's rare that I will agree with a Muslim on topics of religion , but in this case, I do. These condo Nazi's who create arbitrary laws about what you can or cannot do on your property should be outlawed. If you want to put pink flamingos draped in Christmas lights on your balcony, then more power to you. If you have money to do whatever you want, you should be allowed to do it and nobody should be allowed to tell you otherwise no matter how much they complain or how old they are.

I love watching foreign satellite channels in other languages because they're hilarious. The guy spent mucho cash on his condo and he can't watch his zany arabic TV (which is quite entertaining at times, and if you speak arabic it might even be moreso!)
 
2006-07-30 01:10:03 AM
Reed Solomon
hese condo Nazi's who create arbitrary laws about what you can or cannot do on your property should be outlawed. If you want to put pink flamingos draped in Christmas lights on your balcony, then more power to you.



Maybe he should have moved somewhere without a bunch of deed restrictions. Some of us actually read contracts before signing them.
 
2006-07-30 01:11:59 AM
Yes, the HOA is lame. But who is more lame: the lame or the lame that move into condos run by the lame?
 
2006-07-30 01:19:30 AM
Lack of teleportation technology that would let him make daily pilgrimages to his holy land is also religious discrimination. I blame the laws of physics!
 
2006-07-30 01:23:54 AM
His TIVO has been busy:


MONDAYS:
2:00 - "Islamic Star Trek: The Suicide Bomber Generation"
8:00 - "I married a 6 year old"
8:30 - "Mad About Everything"
9:00 - "Suddenly Sanctions"
9:30 - "The Brian Benben Bin Laden Show"
10:00 - "Allah McBeal"

TUESDAYS:
11:30: - "72 virgins, a Suicide Bomber and a Pizza Place"
12:00: - "Who Wants To Be A Civilian Shield?"
4:00 - "Islamic Sci-fi Channel: The Koran is studied"
5:00 - "Islamic History Channel: The Jews did it"
8:30 - "The Price is Right If Osama Says Its Right"
9:00 - "Children Are Forbidden From Saying The
Darndest Things"
9:30 - "Afganistans Wackiest Public Execution Bloopers"
10:00 - "Buffy The Yankee Imperialist Dog Slayer"

WEDNESDAYS:
10:00 - "Islamic Shopping Channel: Burkas, bombs, gas, guns, weapons, women, boys"
and girls all for sale.
1:00 - "Sharia Law and Order: Special Victims Honor Killing Division"
8:00 - "U.S. Military Secrets Revealed by the NYT"
9:30 - "Just Shoot Everyone"
10:00 - "Veilwatch"

THURSDAYS:
12:00 - "Mutual of Dubai's Wild Mideast Kingdoms"
3:00 - "Jurassic Park: The Muslim way of life"
8:00 - "Matima Loves Chachi"
8:30 - "M*U*S*T*A*S*H"
9:00 - "Veronicas Closet Full of Long, Black,
Shapeless Dresses and Veils"
9:30 - "My Two Baghdads"
10:00 - "Diagnosis: Heresy"

FRIDAYS:
8:00 - "Judge Laden"
8:30 - "Funniest Super 8 Home Movies"
9:30 - "Achmeds Creek"
10:00 - "No-witness News"
10:30 - "Everybody loves Osama"
 
2006-07-30 01:29:48 AM
Darth Jackass please tell me it's true. My apartment complex does not allow us to have (mini) satellite dishes.
 
2006-07-30 01:33:13 AM
beoswulf wins thread.
 
2006-07-30 01:33:17 AM
i67.photobucket.com
 
2006-07-30 01:34:45 AM
Cerebral: http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html
 
2006-07-30 01:44:35 AM
I'm deeply conflicted. On one hand, the fact that this ban exists is shiat.

On the other hand, the fact that this man feels he cannot properly order his household without television programming indicates that his head contains same.
 
2006-07-30 01:45:29 AM
If he lived in the US, he'd be able to smack the condo board down. I did in my last apartment (thank god I'm in a house now, and can have my 18", 20", and 39" dishes up without complaint): I just had to site the FCC rulings and the management company shutted the fark up.
 
2006-07-30 01:55:15 AM
theeagle: speaking of the 'censorship' on CA tv is kind of funny...I remember when I lived in Van BC a few years back seeing plenty of T&A on TV (Shaw) after 10 pm friday and saturday nights....who cares what commericials they run? This wasn't pay per view, just simple basic cable.

CA tv isn't likely to flip out over a nipple; hell, they'll show you two of them!
 
2006-07-30 02:18:10 AM
The U.S. is so far ahead of Canada in this regard. I really wish the FCC prohibition on satellite dish restrictions existed here, but I am lucky in that I happen to live in a condo that has very reasonable rules on dishes with the typical rule that you cannot permanently attach it to the exterior or roof.

That's one of the benefits of living in a condo populated mainly by yuppies as the condo board is made up of seemingly sane people. One of the few eldery residents wanted to keep her small dog, but the existing condo regulations prohibited them. The issue was raised at the monthly meeting and the board quite reasonably redacted the rule and crafted a compromise where small pets are allowed so long as they don't bark all day and you clean up any mess they make. We are also permitted flags on the balconies on Canada Day and decorations and lights for holidays like Christmas so long as they don't remain up all fricking year long.

My building is a great place to live, and nothing against the eldery, but like the situation in my last apartment once you get a few busy bodies or a board comprised mainly of older people that's when you start to see all these stupid rules that make living in your condo plain miserable.
 
2006-07-30 02:24:55 AM
You have that heritage thing wrong. We have a bunch of crappy Canadian channels because of that, but it doesn't limit access to other stuff. If a Canadian channel is running the same thing as a US channel, they make us watch Canadian commercials on the US channels. Annoying, but with the PVR recording, I dont watch commercials anymore. Nudity isn't a big deal in Canada. We found out that everyone is naked under their clothes.
 
2006-07-30 02:25:03 AM
Torc: "The bylaw has a discriminating effect in that it prevents him from receiving Arabic and Muslim language and programming essential for his religion and his family," said Jennifer Ross, Assal's lawyer.

Wow, those first few thousand years of the religion must have sucked then. "The secret to salvation will be previewed on channel 63, as soon as television is invented in 1700 years. Until then, please do not die as you will not be saved and will suffer eternal damnation."


Yep. [being an ex-musilm] though, the deal here is staying in touch with the goings - in a homogeneous soceity it is unneeded, but as I understand, certain sects of Islam do have 24/7 TV channels, in which big figures give speeches, and just the sort of thing you'd generally expect a priest to say in a church session, that's all.
By the way, funny thing: when I lived in Pakistan, those who had dishes were considered to be the pious people (thus respected!), because it was assumed they watched all that was on the TV network owned by [whatever sect of Islam] - but I kinda realized - what direction the dish was face meant a little something, as to receive what signal and whatnot. They were watching MTV, a whole lot of them. (hehe, I think I need to clarify: music television, not muslim television).
 
2006-07-30 02:40:50 AM
beowulf I bow in your general direction!

Though I will say i think heresy is a christian concept. You shoud have used the word "Infidel" more. Much much more. It's one of my favorite words.
 
2006-07-30 03:25:55 AM
Just let the guy have his satellite, sheesh.
 
2006-07-30 03:33:52 AM
Blatant racism is so cool. Golf clap.

//thread, not the article
 
2006-07-30 03:42:27 AM
beoswulf
Farking awesome.

p.s. Send me a new keyboard.
 
2006-07-30 04:01:40 AM
"The satellite dish remains attached to a tree in Assal's backyard".

Is it possible their problem is with dish location as apposed too the dish itself........hmmmmmm.


/Insert sarcasm here.
 
2006-07-30 04:20:25 AM
Cerebral Ballsy- It's true, but there are some qualifications.

They can't stop you from having an antenna, but a landlord can try to get around it by making rules that make it almost impossible to mount the antenna.

Since you don't actually own the property they can say that you can't mount the antenna to any railings, or you can't make any holes in the building.

What you need is called a non-penetrating mount. It's a rectangular metal frame w/ a mast on the end. The frame sits on the floor and has rails designed to hold ballast, usually cinder blocks. They used to run between $50-$80.

The FCC website has more detailed info about what is considered as "reasonable" restrictions. Before you start anything though, make sure you have a clear view to the southern sky. No sense in fighting over it if you can't see the satellites anyway.
 
2006-07-30 06:16:25 AM
beoswulf: Mad About Everything

Oh dear, that's funny.
 
2006-07-30 06:55:04 AM
On tonights episode of Everybody Loves Ahkbar...
 
2006-07-30 06:59:08 AM
www.visi.com

/Probably very obscure
//I'm a geek, I don't care.
 
2006-07-30 07:12:04 AM
"Sharia Law and Order: Special Victims Honor Killing Division" got me.
 
2006-07-30 07:59:02 AM
Why is it, despite the fact that the title didn't mention the religion in question, that I just knew this was going to be a Muslim person somplaining ?

Message to the whingers - the "religious freedom" thing is old, and you're pissing off the general Muslims who just like to get along with the rest of us. Go back to Farkistan for farksakes!
 
2006-07-30 08:07:30 AM
upsdrvr: What you need is called a non-penetrating mount. It's a rectangular metal frame w/ a mast on the end. The frame sits on the floor and has rails designed to hold ballast, usually cinder blocks. They used to run between $50-$80.

My HOA (I've got a townhouse) forbids penetrating the roof since they maintain it. So I've mounted 18" dishes to the side of my garage. And I've got an old Primestar dish (30") mounted on a tripod, the tripod is mounted to 18"X6" pieces of wood, and held down by cinder blocks on the roof of the garage. I pointed it last winter and it's still pulling in IAS5 just fine.
 
2006-07-30 08:20:52 AM
Put it in a dome?
 
2006-07-30 09:30:25 AM
beoswulf: Suddenly Sanctions

That's the funniest thing I've read in a while. I bow to you.
 
2006-07-30 09:54:42 AM
I proposed a non-penetrating mount to my wife, and she didn't go for it.
 
2006-07-30 10:06:59 AM
My first greenlight! Wo0t!

/Had to get that out of the way
 
2006-07-30 11:02:47 AM
http://www.ccfj.net/HOAartfcc.html
 
2006-07-30 11:10:27 AM
How else is this guy going to get his terrorist instructions?

Allahu ackbar!
 
2006-07-30 11:21:55 AM
beoswulf

That was totally hilarious!! The Spoof is stong in you, young Beoswalker.
 
2006-07-30 11:26:00 AM
This makes it so easy to tell what ethnic group owns your local convenience store/restaurant. If they have the Dish 500, they're probably Latino. If they have the SuperDish, they're Arab or maybe Indian. If they have a huge FTA dish, they're DEFINITELY Arab! If they have DirecTV, they're rednecks and/or a sports bar.
 
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