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(The Sun)   Police tell woman she can't hang a sign on her fence reading, "Our dogs are fed on Jehovah's Witnesses" despite the fact it's been there for 31 years   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 140
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2006-07-28 09:27:13 AM
My Aunt converted to the JWs years ago. And their family made no bones about showing their contempt for their poor deluded Catholic parents and heathen son, my dad ;)
They wouldn't participate in my Grandfather's funeral. And later biatched when we put my grandmother into a 'too costly' retirement center. I think the term, God damned assholes is appropriate for them. I was glad to see that their religion only went so far until money was an issue.

If grandma wants to spend her entire savings to stay in a nice retirement center, then she gets to spend her savings. It's her's. Then they sued us for the executor's fees. I don't know how hard this math is, 25% to each of the 4 children. But in the end, I think they wasted their entire 25% in legal fees.


Sorry crazy JW relatives. You ostricized yourself from your family, you can't have the inheritance. www.cruelty.comNot yours.
 
2006-07-28 09:41:24 AM
TheWizard

We had a similar situation as far as the JWs being highly judgemental in our family. My husband's sister was kicked out of their brother's wedding because she was disfellowshiped for having children out of wedlock.

I also get the JW treatment for being raised Catholic, too. My sister in law teaches her children that all Catholics are evil and to ignore everything I say. I sure do get a kick out of it, though! They're an easily spooked bunch.
 
2006-07-28 09:43:34 AM
lotustuned: We've had the right to free speech longer than any other nation in the world, including yours so STFU.

Two things.

First, the reason we didn't have free speech may have had something to do with your country.

Two, we have free speech, so STFU. Aren't British people supposed to have a better sense of irony?

-- Richard Zeien
 
2006-07-28 09:45:57 AM
dbackeberg: They could work with homeless people to help them get job skills and move up in life. They could babysit for single mothers so they could get jobs. They could escort pregnant women past screaming, sometimes violent anti-choice Christians at abortion clinics to help keep them safe. They could do any number of things to help the downtrodden elements of society, you know, things that Jesus would do. That's what I think "missions" were supposed to be about.

Many soup kitchens are run by Christians. How do you know they aren't doing these things to help people (except the abortion thing).

-- Richard Zeien
 
2006-07-28 09:55:21 AM
SImple Solution...New Sign Beware of Watchtower dog
 
2006-07-28 09:59:01 AM
rczeien: How do you know they aren't doing these things to help people

um.. because they're at your door?
 
2006-07-28 10:04:28 AM
A Farking JW was the reason we were no longer allowed to say "Merry Christmas" in our office anymore...
Funny that was had a few Jewish, Muslim and Buddhists and they never minded... Go figure...
 
2006-07-28 10:19:48 AM
lammy

I wasn't familiar with UK police protocol. Nice of them to be so considerate. Do they ring you first for an appointment? "If it's no bother, might I pop around tomorrow to arrest you?"
 
2006-07-28 10:31:18 AM
K, so we know there are Mormon farkers, but it appears no JWs? Unless they are keeping their heads down.

My Grandma is a JW. No cuddly, sweet, cookie-baking Grandma, this one - she is truly a mean old bird. She told me once, when she had been particularly nasty to me, that she didn't have to be nice, she knew SHE was saved.

I always thought Jeebus was the one that got to decide that.

LOL!
 
2006-07-28 10:36:04 AM
Nothing But Net: I wasn't familiar with UK police protocol. Nice of them to be so considerate. Do they ring you first for an appointment? "If it's no bother, might I pop around tomorrow to arrest you?"

I know, I know, the US police would have shot them on sight and been given awards for neutralasizing the turrrst threat :-)
 
2006-07-28 10:44:28 AM
Actually, the cops would have their hands full trying to keep bystanders from beating them to death.

Are you for real?
 
2006-07-28 10:51:24 AM
// watches out for Pillow Pants...
 
2006-07-28 10:58:23 AM
SoiledDude [TotalFark]

/curious if there are there any practicing Mormon TFers/ettes


Yeah, I've seen a few. I'm on-again, off-again TF... There are some others.

binnster [TotalFark]

I think they were Mormons. They might have been Mermaids. Hard to tell.


Here's the way to tell: Do they have tails and ask for water every 3 minutes? Then they're mermaids. Do they have horns, white shirts and bikes? Then they're Mormons. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go sharpen my horns.
 
2006-07-28 11:10:18 AM
Nothing But Net: Actually, the cops would have their hands full trying to keep bystanders from beating them to death.

Are you for real?


I'm as real as you are :-)
 
2006-07-28 11:46:26 AM
over those 31 years, however, america has turned into one gaping vagina
 
2006-07-28 11:47:57 AM
lammy
um.. because they're at your door?

So, they don't do anything when they aren't at your door? They spend the rest of their time staring at the walls of their home?

-- Richard Zeien
 
2006-07-28 12:14:42 PM
curious if there are there any practicing Mormon TFers/ettes

I am.
 
2006-07-28 12:31:02 PM
Door-to-door attempts at conversion are fine until someone gets hurt....

My grandmother used to let the JW's in and talk with them in a civilized manner. Her first born son died when he was only one, from tuberculosis I think. The day of his funeral, the JW's came over and she said she couldn't talk that day because, well, her son just died and all. They asked her if he'd been baptised. He hadn't been, so the JW's told her that her one year old little boy was burning in hell because he was never baptised. My grandmother chased them down the street with a butcher knife while screaming obscenities. She would never speak to them again from that day on. They would just leave their pamphlet on the doorstep and leave.

/I'd personally witnessed on a number of occasions my grandmother running out the front door, picking up the Watchtower pamphlet and ripping it into pieces.
 
2006-07-28 12:52:38 PM
See what happens when you have protected classes?
 
2006-07-28 01:00:20 PM
I'm a JW.

I find most of the negative comments stem from anecdotal evidence, and are not truly representative of the majority of JWs.

Frankly, I thought the sign was funny. I've seen much worse in my time.

I was threatened by a man loading a shotgun, once. How many people here have stared down the barrel of a gun because of what they believed? Of course a few kinds words and a hasty retreat allowed me to preach another day.

Mostly though, it's just a matter of "I'm not interested," with a "Okay, have a nice day." as a reply.

I'm still mystified why so many people get so rankled about talking to someone about religion.

When I was in high school my best friends were catholic, jewish, athiest and baptist. We had the most enlightening conversations. Mostly we agreed to disagree, but it certainly caused all of us to dig deeper and question why we believed what we did.

Jehovah's witnesses don't look to convert people, they offer answers for those who simply don't know what to believe or are jaded by what they've already been taught/learned. Witnesses don't come to people's doors looking for an arguement. If a person is content with their beliefs, that's fine. Everybody gets to choose for themselves.

As far as disfellowshipping goes. It's a very simple premise. When you get baptized, you're saying "I want to be a part of an organization that has certain rules, and I promise to follow those rules." People who get disfellowshipped have proven over the course of time that they are not interested in following those rules they promised to keep. Therefore, their memberships are revoked. Is it really any different than working out at a gym and getting booted for repeatedly breaking the rules?
 
2006-07-28 01:02:57 PM
Mushi-shi

Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in hell, and babies aren't baptized.

I think you're either confused about what really happened, or making it all up.
 
2006-07-28 01:19:15 PM
>>I find most of the negative comments stem from anecdotal evidence, and are not truly representative of the majority of JWs.

Oh come on. Any insider is going to view their own bretheren this way.

It's why every day when there's a new "Christians do something retarded" thread on the front page, all the Christians come out in force to say "Those aren't real Christians! They're a vocal minority!"
 
2006-07-28 01:22:52 PM
icebergcomics
Jehovah's witnesses don't look to convert people, they offer answers for those who simply don't know what to believe or are jaded by what they've already been taught/learned. Witnesses don't come to people's doors looking for an arguement. If a person is content with their beliefs, that's fine. Everybody gets to choose for themselves.
that may be the biggest load of B.S. i have ever heard. ever.
i was raised a JW. the day i turned 18, i moved out of my parent's house and i haven't been back. i was disfellowshipped a couple months later. my entire family - parents, siblings, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins - and the few friends i was allowed to have growing up haven't spoken to me in...oh, seven years now.
you're only allowed to choose for yourself if your parents didn't shove it down your throat from the time you were three, force you to get baptized at the ripe old age of nine, then kick you out when you grew up and could actually think, "i don't want this".

People who get disfellowshipped have proven over the course of time that they are not interested in following those rules they promised to keep.
i never broke a single rule before i was df'd. (since then...well, that's a completely differnt story.) i just didn't listen to everything my parents said, didn't attend meetings three days a week, and was a female going to college.
 
2006-07-28 01:25:59 PM
Like the logo...

images.thesun.co.uk
 
2006-07-28 01:36:59 PM
Come on guys, this is a "let's make fun of the Jehovah's Witnesses" thread, not a "let's make fun of the Mormons" thread. Don't worry, there'll be more of the latter to come.

Here, I'll get things back on track:

"Jehovah Witnesses, since you believe only 30,000 get into heaven -- wouldn't you want to keep it a secret?"

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it like a pyramid scheme? The way you get to be one of those thousands (and I thought it was 144K, not 30K) is by being more faithful than everybody else - i.e. by doing more tracting and getting more converts. Of course, all your converts must start out screwed unless they can catch up to your head start, but that's not your problem.
 
2006-07-28 01:38:35 PM
Of course I didn't want to argue with anyone in this thread, but someone decided that they'd call out the witnesses as if we're too afraid to comment on a silly incident like this lady's sign.

As far as disfellowshipping goes, grrl-geek, its pretty clear. If you don't want to be a part of it, don't. Its that simple. You didn't want to be a part of it, and made a decision. Do you really expect a group that you don't want to be a part of to claim you as part of that group still? I'm sure your parents are applying pressure, just as some parents apply pressure to go to a certain school or to take up a certain career, but in the end, YOU still make the decision of how to live your life.

Zamboro - Do you really expect someone who is of a certain religion to say "You're right, all the hateful accusations are really true and aren't simply biased talk out of the mouths of disgruntled ex-members. But I'm still going to go along with it."

There may be incidents of a person making a poor judgement and not behaving properly or not making all of the right decisions, but as a group, Jehovah's Witnesses are striving to be the best individuals they can be. The best neighbors, employees, friends, and family - All anyone can do is try to be the best of these. That's truly what witnesses strive for, but like everybody else, they're not perfect.
 
2006-07-28 01:44:01 PM
Roy - It is 144K as stated in revelation. you're probably surprised to know that currently, of the 6million plus active witnesses worldwide less than 8000 claim to be part of that 144k class that will be going to heaven.

Witnesses believe that God lovingly created an arraingement of rule that will allow humans to assist in judging and ruling over humanity. This began back at the last supper with Jesus covenenant with his apostles.

Throughout history this number has dwindled.

Wouldn't you prefer to have people ruling over you who knew what it was like to deal with the pressures you dealt with?

Oh, by the way, I'm not going to heaven. I look forward to the removal of wickedness on the earth and a return of the earth to an Eden like state, which was God's original intention.
 
2006-07-28 01:47:14 PM
You know, if the sign had said:
"Our dogs eat Jews" instead, somehow I get a feeling a few more farkers would be on the cops' side.
 
2006-07-28 03:04:08 PM
Last time I checked the constitution did not dissallow religious persecution inside your own fenced yard.


Frankly the Mormons disgust me when they come to harrass me.

I'm purely a theist, not a christian, so don't talk to me about your leader that gives lip service to jesus.
 
2006-07-28 03:44:18 PM
To add a few thoughts to comments made by icebergcomics:

I have been JW for 25 years. Most JW's today are people who have come from other religions, or no religion. In their previous lives, they had developed certain automatic attitudes and beliefs which they lived with for many years. But to really BE one of Jehovah's Witnesses, all that needs to change. Now you need "put on the new personality" as the scripture commands.

THIS IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT PROCESS. These people are striving to change if their object is to please God and not themselves, but it takes tremendous effort to make a 180 degree turn from your former way of thinking and acting. It is a process that takes years; so don't expect perfection of others that you yourselves do NOT possess. JW's make mistakes, but as long as they accept God's standards of right and wrong, good and bad,(unlike Adam and Eve) as their goal, then God is patient with them.

Also, as for the sign: I also would laugh at it and move on. I appreciate knowing in advance when someone is not interested. I give up my free time to come to your house and share the wonderful gift of eternal life on a Paradise earth that God promises, I and don't like wasting my time with people who are incapable of appreciating that gift.

So you people who do not want JW's to knock on your door, feel free to put up a sign. We appreciate it. The end of this whole world system is only a whisper away (check out the news every day, people, many of you already see it coming whether you agree with JW's or not), and we want to find APPRECIATIVE people asap.
 
2006-07-28 04:53:56 PM
dbackeberg
They could work with homeless people to help them get job skills and move up in life. They could babysit for single mothers so they could get jobs. They could escort pregnant women past screaming, sometimes violent anti-choice Christians at abortion clinics to help keep them safe. They could do any number of things to help the downtrodden elements of society, you know, things that Jesus would do. That's what I think "missions" were supposed to be about.

Apparently you don't know anything about the "Mormon" churh's huge humanitarian and education efforts. Perhaps a little education on your part?

On the other hand, I'm fairly certain that Jesus spent a good portion of his time preaching and teaching.

If you don't want to talk to someone, tell them nicely and then leave/close the door. It's simple common courtesy.

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Solia
Most JW's today are people who have come from other religions, or no religion. In their previous lives, they had developed certain automatic attitudes and beliefs which they lived with for many years.

Interesting -- I had no idea that JWs believed in reincarnation.
 
2006-07-28 04:54:37 PM
Jehovah's Witnesses: The other white meat
 
2006-07-28 05:10:11 PM
Dad had a sign at the back door that said:

"One nice person and one old bastard lives here"

When he had "unwelcome visitors", he'd just look at the sign, and said people usually left quickly.
 
2006-07-28 05:58:56 PM
OK, Krunthor:

No, JW's do not believe in reincarnation.

That sentence can also read: Before becoming Jehovah's Witnesses, they had developed certain automatic...(and I should add) deeply entrenched, attitudes and beliefs which they had developed over a period of many years.

Does that clarify :)
 
2006-07-28 07:46:13 PM
Therefore, their memberships are revoked. Is it really any different than working out at a gym and getting booted for repeatedly breaking the rules?

////ya. Don't pee in the shower!
 
2006-07-28 08:24:12 PM
Solia: The end of this whole world system is only a whisper away (check out the news every day, p

I guess it's been that way for something like 40 years now. Ahh, what's tacking a few years onto the end of a prediction endlessly over and over going to do when the people making it are a bunch of grey-haired old men in New York you have no way of questioning anyway?
 
2006-07-28 11:04:14 PM
If I get kicked out of a gym, say, for using free weights when I'm alone or using more than 1 towel per session, the other gym members aren't going to be prevented from talking to me, socialising with me, try to deny me access to familly members, etc. And if a gym kicks me out and cancels my membership because I reported one of the guys running it to the cops for getting funky with underage girls or boys in the sauna, they're going to get sued all to hell and have to likely give me my membership plus an extra year back, or end up having to pretty much sign over their building to me and my lawyer.
JW's are scum. During the war, in Nazi Germany, they felt even when they were in the camps that the Jews deserved what they were getting. I have seen them, firsthand, try and convert children without their parents knowledge. They have told people wracked by grief over the death of a loved one that their relative was now burning in hell, and wouldn't they really want to avoid that fate?
 
2006-07-29 12:25:29 PM
icebergcomics: I was threatened by a man loading a shotgun, once. How many people here have stared down the barrel of a gun because of what they believed?

You didn't stare down the barrel of a gun because of what you believe, you stared down the barrel of a gun because you were harassing people.

There may be incidents of a person making a poor judgement and not behaving properly or not making all of the right decisions, but as a group, Jehovah's Witnesses are striving to be the best individuals they can be.

Bullshiat. They are farktards, every one of them. You too.
 
2006-07-30 10:13:09 PM
cynical - Read a few history books. JW's were in nazi camps along side the jews, and there has been documentation that they helped jews and jehovah's witnesses alike to try to survive that atrocity. Why were JWs in the camp? Because they would not go along with the Nazis. All they had to do was sign a document saying they revoked their faith and swore alegence to Hitler. But they would not do it.
As far as the "telling people that their relative was now burning in hell" Jehovah's witnesses do not teach, nor believe in a fiery hell. They believe, as the bible teaches, hell or hades is simply the state of inactivity that is death.

Your bigotry and blind hatred is apparent to all who are intellectually honest.
 
2006-08-03 04:20:03 PM
-A heads up on the Jehovah Witness-

There is no Armageddon that will annihilate 6.5 billion people,and install Watchtower leaders as world rulers.

The core dogma of the Watchtower organization is that Jesus had his second coming 'invisibly' in the year 1914.Their entire doctrinal superstructure is built on this falsehood.

Jehovah's Witnesses door to door recruitment is by their own admission an ineffective tactic. They have lost membership in all countries with major Internet access because their false doctrines and harmful practices are exposed on the modern information superhighway.

There is good and valid reasons why there is such an outrage against the Watchtower for misleading millions of followers.Many have invested everything in the 'imminent' apocalyptic promises of the Jehovah's Witnesses and have died broken and beaten.

Every Jehovah's Witness member will grow old and die just like everyone else.
----
Danny Haszard Bangor Maine 'expert witness on the Jehovah's Witness'
 
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