There's so much stupid in this thread!

/it hurts...

spleef420: I was just in San Diego on saturday...arid my ass.

Hope you enjoyed Nerd Prom, too.

It's been unusually hot and humid this month. I haven't been able to shut my AC off since the first of July. Usually we get two weeks of this in August and that's it. Otherwise, it should be pretty arid right now.

AHeitman: Grey Davis was blamed for the last blackouts because he privatized the utilities and let them sell all of their energy out of state.....


Pete Wilson did that, smart guy....

Hmmmm....

California generation of electricity has only increased 29% based on all of the plants that have gone online since '87. I dare say that the state's population and even more so, the overall usage of electricity has gone up more than that.

For all you libtards that are uncomfortable during the rolling blackouts....take solice and hug a tree, it may even have a cooling effect.

/just be careful about catching it in the cornhole while hugging your conifer.

It's amazing that considering how deep Enron had their dick up everyone's ass with no lube, they still have people who will defend them or blame the victims for simply having an anus.

Actually, environmentalists SUPPORT building new power plants because they're less polluting than older ones.

Actually the shortages come from the power companies taking their units "offline" for "maintenance" at critical times, ala Ken Lays "Ben Dover and receive" screwing of CA back in the "good ole days" of the Shrub administration. Too bad he wasn't confirmed as Energy Czar, huh? The punishment continues for CA being a "Blue State". Oh, and AH-node? Fark him, and the Kennedy he rode in on!

OOPS, sorry if I stepped on anyone's previous statement of the obvious.

//Slasher

mkfreeberg: Yes, we all know you can't respond to the points she makes. No need to remind us.

And you libbies can't respond to the points the timecube guy makes, neither.

No wonder you all keep losing.

nelbuts1 writes: That just shows me how self-centered those fruits and nuts are.


Well where I live in Ca we never use the AC since it is always about 75 Degrees but when I was in the Bay Area visiting my Parents and it was 115 Degrees you can damn well bet the AC was in the 60's we Brits don't handle this insane heat so well.

Only Californians over the age of 30 will really appreciate this, but guess what links to Jerry Brown on Wikipedia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_Moonbeam

That is awesome.

You know, it's funny. It's only the small lunatic fringe of the left that actually think we should be living on agrarian collectives and these blackouts are ok and we shouldn't generate more power or refine fuel or whatever.

But they sure do seem to have a lot of power.

My train of thought sort of wandered, because Moonbeam was very sympathetic to them. I remember the disaster he made of I-15.

But it got me thinking about another wacko, David Suzuki, a Canadian environmentalist that enjoys quasi-religious status amongst Canadian environmentalists who are are the equal mirror image of religious fundamentalists.

Out here in Vancouver, they want to twin a bridge. And all you hear from Suzuki and his cultists are "more roads won't help traffic" because he thinks more cars are bad for the environment, as if roads create cars or something. They're already there, wasting gas and ruining the environment in stop-and-go traffic.

Which is of course why Moonbeam screwed up I-15. Same sorta thing.

But it's funny, the unique "logic" is that building more roads won't fix traffic problems.

So perhaps to fix traffic problems, we should shut down half of the lanes on freeways. Since insufficient access to roadways must logically solve traffic problems.

And then we're back to the electricity thing.

Insufficient access to electricity will cause conservation. But that's not what's really happening. People aren't conserving, they're going without because of a rolling blackout.

Hell, it costs more to bring your house back to a livable temperature than it does to just maintain it once you're there.

Just as it uses more gas for there to be stop-and-go traffic gridlock...more clutch jobs, more brake pads being replaced...whatever. But if you had enough to meet demand, you're helping.

I am tired of the myth presented as truth that insufficient "whatever" will force people to save. Good planning should dictate access enough to what you need, and when you're economically healthy and viable you have the wherewithall to progress.

For all of the money lost/wasted in stop-and-go traffic, lost time away from work, away from family, whatever you could build expensive mass-transit systems.

For all of the money lost and wasted from these rolling blackouts, you could provide cheaper and more accessible energy and people could spend their money on other things than making Duke Energy and crooks like Enron rich.

That really supports leftist causes. Great thinking, lefties. Let's let rich energy corporations gouge us and game the market.

Thanks.

I always wondered about this whenever I heard about the electric car. If a large number of cars in California did become electric, then how the hell could they supply all that electricity? The answer is that it couldn't without a whole lotta new powerplants. I read that Japan has a single nuke with 10 reactors that generates over 9 billion CO₂-free watts. That is what it would take if we really had a lot of electric powered cars.

Interesting that I, a Californian for 36 years now, has never heard of Jerry Brown building any freeways in this state. Usually that is left to well connected construction interests, such as the Halliburton types, who build half the project and then hold the state (or country) up for twice the money to resume. Of course I am not a Canadian, so I'm sure my insight is befuddled by proximity.
And certainly, all environmental wackos should be sent to Lebanon to provide human shields for the Israeli army, ya' know, just to even the playing field. After all, when we have scientific minds such as GW Shrub making policy, what right thinking American could object? Don't form your own opinion, just form a line behind your president.
No apology for the rant. If you don't like my opinion, then in the words of fox News, STFU.

Error403

Jerry Brown fought to keep freeways out of California. I-15 through Riverside (see I-215) is a joke, and if we hadn't gotten rid of him, I-15 wouldn't have even gone into San Diego.

I believe he literally "declared war on freeways" in a speech.

But actually, no, I don't care about your opinion because you don't know the facts, so your opinion is useless. Thanks anyway. No go check up on some state history.

peter_hook

You have no idea what you're talking about when you speak of inefficient access to energy. The western power grid is probably the finest in the US. I work in energy trading. We trade the Western US. This is my field you're talking about and you are completely and utterly clueless.

Demand spikes (weather) coupled with insufficient supply (plants, not power lines) is what causes prices to go up. If the market could pay cost of generation plus cost of construction on a per MWh basis, the problem would go away. However, that's not the case, so there are no new builds in the West. It won't be a major problem for another 7 years or so, but look out after that. Prices will take off and power companies will need at least a year to build incremental generation capacity. I wouldn't want to live in Cali for those couple of years.....

Submitter is a moron - linked article doesn't even mention Arnold, or any other politician, for that matter.

Guess Karl Rove is back approving articles at Fark.

linky: Hope you enjoyed Nerd Prom, too.

I didn't even know it was going on until I tried to get a room. Nothing from San Bernardino to San Diego.

I drove there to get away from the Vegas heat only to find out that it followed me and brought its friend, humidity.