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(CNN)   Liberals blame Ah-nuld for the looming blackouts in California, not the liberal environmental zealots who have not allowed a single power station to be built in 30 years in CA   (cnn.com) divider line 568
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2006-07-25 12:07:40 PM  
If Ah-nuld can kill an alien from another planet, he can shoot energy out of his ass!

/good headline because it's the farking truth!
 
2006-07-25 12:18:04 PM  
hrm, we built 35 plants in just the past couple of years.

so are you referring to the previous 30? If so it is a moot point as most Californians now realize that we have to have them and they aren't fighting against them any more.
 
2006-07-25 12:18:13 PM  
Is that still true? I read years ago that they hadn't allowed any new power plants to be built but I thought, with all the shortfalls, and outages, that they must have smartened up and started adding capacity. Is that wrong? Did I misunderestimate them?
 
2006-07-25 12:18:23 PM  
Yes, more pollution is the solution to all of our problems.

CONSUME! CONSUME! CONSUME!
 
2006-07-25 12:18:29 PM  
This is so true. My electric bill while I was in California was almost $300 every month and we did not have an air conditioner and our stove, water heater and heating system was all gas.
 
2006-07-25 12:26:38 PM  
california has built 36 new power plants since the enron blackouts. WTF!?
 
2006-07-25 12:26:56 PM  
eh? here is a link to a downloadable spreadsheet of CA power plants, that includes, among other info, the date and year the plant went online. The most recent was 2003. Hell, the most recent nuclear one to go online was El Diablo in 1985. Plus, you can go over here and look at the projects that are underway, approved and under construction.

so I am completely confused as to what that that whole 30 year thing is about.
 
2006-07-25 12:27:55 PM  
maybe that wasn't enough?!?!?!?
 
2006-07-25 12:28:36 PM  
Wow, you really pulled that one out of your ass, didn't you, Submitter? You just made that shiat up, didn't you?

CLICK HERE FOR LIST OF THE 935 POWER PLANTS CURRENTLY OPERATING IN CALIFORNIA, the majority of which have gone on line within the past 30 years (Excel spreadsheet). Some are small, some are big, but none is a big as the load of bullshiat in the headline.
 
2006-07-25 12:30:05 PM  
and here's a list of current power plant construction(pops) in CA. nice job giving this one the green!
 
2006-07-25 12:30:06 PM  
Let me help you out, submitter: Liberals One guy, the Democratic candidate for governor, blames Ah-nuld for the looming blackouts in California

Maybe "Phil Angelides" means "all liberals" to you, but for intelligent people, it means "one guy."

not the liberal environmental zealots who have not allowed a single power station to be built in 30 years in CA

Funny, according to this (pops) site, there have been scores of plants built in California in the last 30 years.

But, let's not let facts stand in the way of ol' good ol' anti-LIEberal screed, eh submittard?

...and shame, shame, shame for greenlighting this ignorant lie.
 
2006-07-25 12:30:58 PM  
From which pundit did this BS come?
 
2006-07-25 12:31:26 PM  
willywanka
eh? here is a link to a downloadable spreadsheet of CA power plants, that includes, among other info, the date and year the plant went online. The most recent was 2003. Hell, the most recent nuclear one to go online was El Diablo in 1985. Plus, you can go over here and look at the projects that are underway, approved and under construction.

so I am completely confused as to what that that whole 30 year thing is about.


Here, maybe I can help. Its called "bullshiat" right wing lies.
 
2006-07-25 12:32:22 PM  
mediaho: From which pundit did this BS come?

surprise surprise, looks like this one(pops) was reposted from newsmax.
 
2006-07-25 12:33:01 PM  
willywanka the 30 year-old thing was a battle cry during the previous rolling blackouts during the Enron days.

It's really not too relevant now because California was given a greenlight to start building their own. Remember, they were getting it "piped" in from bordering states east because of their own policies. After they realized that was a plan providing sufficient power they got back on the wagon.

The hydro plants were slated for northern california and the locals there said "shiat no" because they didn't think they should suffer the environmental impact for supplying power to those "over-consumers" in southern california.

it's a real north vs. south thing. lots of Agriculture ramifications from damming up rivers and such.
 
2006-07-25 12:33:12 PM  
bradkanus: /good headline because it's the farking truth!

Spoken like someone who has absolutely no idea of what he speaks.

God forbid you should look into it - just assume it's true because it bashes liberals, eh?
 
2006-07-25 12:35:34 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: Spoken like someone who has absolutely no idea of what he speaks.

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the posting style of Brad K. Anus. No style, even less substance.
 
2006-07-25 12:37:15 PM  
2006-07-25 12:18:29 PM wookiemonster
This is so true. My electric bill while I was in California was almost $300 every month and we did not have an air conditioner and our stove, water heater and heating system was all gas.


When did you live here? YOu may have these guys to thank for that:
www.cbc.ca

Anyway, I live in Sacramento, where the summer highs are almost always in the 90s, and often in the 100s (today is predicted to be the 10th day in a row with 100+ temperatures). My wife works at home, so the house is usually occupied, and the A/C is on all the time, as is the computer. It's an 80-year-old, 3-bedroom house, so it's not the most energy efficient. Nevertheless, it's a very rare month when our power bill exceeds $150.

The reason? Since the 1930s, we have had public power in Sacramento, with the utility owned by the ratepayers. So we aren't being screwed by a bunch of pirates like PG&E or Southern California Edison. Sorry if that's too "socialist" for the rest of you suckers, but we like it.
 
2006-07-25 12:38:18 PM  
mediaho: Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the posting style of Brad K. Anus. No style, even less substance.

But he works in DC!! He knows more than I do!!
 
2006-07-25 12:38:32 PM  
Because no left-leaning poster on Fark has ever provided a grossly overinflated figure whilst bashing the other side.

/just saying
//headline was retarded anyway
 
2006-07-25 12:39:26 PM  
Cyberluddite: Since the 1930s, we have had public power in Sacramento, with the utility owned by the ratepayers.

i have public power too. my bill was $18.93 last month.

hey, they don't call it taxachusetts for nothing, oh, wait...
 
2006-07-25 12:40:21 PM  
Interesting tidbit:

Arnold became governor because of California's dissatisfaction with Gray Davis.

California was dissatisfied with Gray Davis mainly because of the 2001 power crisis.

2000 power crisis was found to be due, in large part, to Enron gaming the power supply market.

Ken Lay and Arnold Schwartzenegger met secretly shortly after the start of the power crisis.
 
2006-07-25 12:40:24 PM  
Wow. That was some serious ownage of submitter there. Good job guys.
 
2006-07-25 12:41:13 PM  
my bill was $18.93 last month.
You know, I'd move to Mass just for that.
...nevermind, I'd probably end up killing a few Red Sox and Patriots fans.

/would hang out with Bruins fans
//and cheer for the Red Wings
 
2006-07-25 12:46:35 PM  
I'm sorry, but the power plants ordeal was a major issue of the more liberal arm of the California democratic party stary in the mid 80s. They succesfully took control of the house and senate from more moderate democrats and instituted their will on measures they could control. Some environmental standards are only set and looked after by the federal government, but the building of plants wasn't entirely. Remember, the state has to approve the site, the impact etc. and so on.

So now the whole state is in a crisis and I don't see them biatching at the politicians of yester year who created this problem.

many californians voted these guys in on that platform and should blame themselves....

/Texas, Arizona and New Mexico - where are the blackouts? we got the heat
 
2006-07-25 12:47:17 PM  
Ahahahaha, submitter sucks arse.
 
2006-07-25 12:53:10 PM  
, just go back to submitting more troll headlines so we can pwn you some more.
 
2006-07-25 12:54:27 PM  
I RTFA and I did not see any facts about why there's an energy crisis except this one...

"The intense heat pushed electricity usage to a peak of 50,270 megawatts on Monday -- a record for California"

I guess the weather has a well known liberal bias.
 
2006-07-25 12:58:19 PM  
God bless Enron!

Social Darwinism, baby!

*knees subdimmer in groin area*
 
2006-07-25 12:58:30 PM  
timmy_the_tooth: "The intense heat pushed electricity usage to a peak of 50,270 megawatts on Monday -- a record for California"



Global Warming!! Global Warming! The inventor of the Internet was right!
 
2006-07-25 12:58:53 PM  
Subby needs to go to his room without any supper, sit in the corner and think about what he's said.
 
2006-07-25 12:58:57 PM  
hrm, we built 35 plants in just the past couple of years.

the truth isn't important to conservatives. they consider something to be true if conservative commentators repeat it enough times.

conservatives are liars.
 
2006-07-25 12:59:22 PM  
www.salvationinc.org
Mommy! Mommy! The liberals are gonna EAT me!
 
2006-07-25 12:59:34 PM  
Now, California doesn't import any power does it?
 
2006-07-25 01:01:09 PM  
I did a lot of contract 'puter work for the "California Energy Commission", headed up by the latest toadies favored by the reigning governors and the god-awful state legislature. They are the overlords of regulating new builds etc and you should see the farking red tape and bullshiat that it takes to construct a new power plant in this proto-marxist state.

Feh.
 
2006-07-25 01:01:25 PM  
Yup. 10 days over 100 and no blackouts yet. Real crisis.
 
2006-07-25 01:01:46 PM  
Maybe California uses too much power?
 
2006-07-25 01:02:05 PM  
Arnold became governor because of California's dissatisfaction with Gray Davis.

California was dissatisfied with Gray Davis mainly because of the 2001 power crisis.

2000 power crisis was found to be due, in large part, to Enron gaming the power supply market.

Ken Lay and Arnold Schwartzenegger met secretly shortly after the start of the power crisis.


I understand now.

Clearly Arnold had Ken Lay terminated...
 
2006-07-25 01:02:25 PM  
I also blame the green movement for preventing the country from moving toward energy independence. They do some harm along with the good. Perhaps it is time to reign them in a bit.
 
2006-07-25 01:02:43 PM  
You're stupid because you're a liberal blah blah blah
You're stupid because you're a conservative blah blah blah

and it goes on and on and on...

Won't someone please think of the children?
 
2006-07-25 01:03:43 PM  
Liberals: "blah blah blah"

Conservatives: "blah blah blah"

Ramgar: "Move the fark out of Cah-lee-for-nee-ah"
 
2006-07-25 01:04:35 PM  
hrm, we built 35 plants in just the past couple of years.

Really?? Because "planned" does not equal "built." Also, it can take 5+ years in some cases to build a power plant... that's after 10+ years of planning and court fights. So I'm interested to hear about the 35 plants that have been built in the last 3 years.

Either way, the premise is still accurate.

Where are the blackouts in Texas?

Nuclear power is BAD. We can't drill in ANWR because the baby polar bears will die, and "big power" is just looking to screw us any second... It's no wonder California has had this problem for years. Congrats guys, good jorb. You can fix it.
 
2006-07-25 01:04:56 PM  
BEFORE YOU BLAME ANYBODY!!!

Call the power generating companies and ask them if they've received any phonecalls recently from anyone telling them to shut down their generators, and ask if they listened to those people.

Simply doing that would have prevented all the problems that got Davis booted out. Enron was just calling these farktards and telling them "hey, dude, like... can you shut your shiat down for like 3 hours?" and the power company guys would just do it. I don't know why or how much they were getting paid, but they'd do it. And Enron would then raise the price on electricity they were providing and ride the wave of profit created by their manufactured electricity shortage.

So before you get all uppity and yanking on your hair and tearing your clothes over how evil the Republicans or the Democrats are... why don't you check and see if the places that make the electricity are even up and running? You forgot to do it before, don't forget it again.
 
2006-07-25 01:04:58 PM  
We got farked once before by outside influences. Don't be so quick to blame those hippies again, mitty.
 
2006-07-25 01:05:21 PM  
brad k anus: /good headline because it's the farking truth!

Um...no.

I thought the "rolling blackout" thing was part of the reasoning for the recall vote in the first place.
 
2006-07-25 01:05:22 PM  
S'mitter =

www.skoo.nildram.co.uk
 
2006-07-25 01:05:24 PM  
I think the IRONIC tag would be appropriate here, since Ahnuld got in by way of Enron creating power outages, and everybody blaming Gray Davis.
 
2006-07-25 01:05:28 PM  
It's not often you see the submitter get his ass handed to him so early in a thread. That should help prevent the ensuing flamewar.. or not.

Ah-nuld= not a very good governor. And easily as beholden to special interest groups (and big money donations) as the guy he replaced.
 
2006-07-25 01:05:35 PM  
Ramgar: "Move the fark out of Cah-lee-for-nee-ah"

Hells no. You want them all to stay right where they are.

And pray for the big quake to give Nevada some oceanfront property.
 
2006-07-25 01:05:41 PM  
 
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