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(Sky.com)   Newspaper reporter manages to plant fake bomb on "high security" cargo train carrying nuclear waste through Britain. In other news, Brits marvel at sight of actual functioning train   (sky.com) divider line 47
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2006-07-21 12:39:15 PM
It was John Cleese!
 
2006-07-21 12:39:42 PM
I just planted a real bomb in the bathroom.
 
2006-07-21 12:40:07 PM
kaboom,

//kid of the 70
//no words
 
2006-07-21 12:40:29 PM
Britain is all islands, right? How did they GET the train there? On boats? Well, why don't they use the BOATS to move the stuff?

/failed engineering school
//Duke
 
2006-07-21 12:40:44 PM
The funnier ending would have had him being shot to death while planting the 'bomb'.
 
2006-07-21 12:42:06 PM
Ah, fark.
 
2006-07-21 12:42:10 PM
OriginalGamer: The funnier ending would have had him being shot to death while planting the 'bomb'.

Counter-Terrorists win!

/obscure?
 
2006-07-21 12:42:11 PM
If I were a terrorist, I would recruit nothing but reporters. The media would call us the "Bad News gang".
 
2006-07-21 12:42:12 PM
It's a set up.
 
2006-07-21 12:42:13 PM
Maybe they need to get rid of the real bomb detectors and put in fake bomb detectors. That'll solve the problem.

/Somebody set up us the bomb
 
2006-07-21 12:43:17 PM
The train carries radioactive flasks of spent uranium fuel rods from the Kent countryside to Cumbria.

And sent to ireland, because shiat, they'll drink anything.
 
2006-07-21 12:44:02 PM
FOOKING SCAREMONGERING!

YOU CAN DO THE MOST HORRIBLE THINGS, BUT MOST OF US ARE SANE ENOUGHT TO KNOW IT'S WRONG!
 
2006-07-21 12:44:07 PM
Kuoxasar: /obscure?


How could that even be remotely obscure with all the 12 yearolds on Fark :p
 
2006-07-21 12:45:03 PM
I just love when reporters do terrorists' homework for them.
 
2006-07-21 12:47:06 PM
Golf clap for the headline, submitter
 
2006-07-21 12:47:11 PM
OriginalGamer: The funnier ending would have had him being shot to death while planting the 'bomb'.

I'm waiting for this to happen just so I can laugh my ass off at the stupidity of the media.

Hopefully it'll be O'Reilly.
 
2006-07-21 12:47:20 PM
He snuck in that bomb through platform 9 3/4


Observe:

www.cottey.edu
 
2006-07-21 12:51:33 PM
The funnier ending would have had him being shot to death while planting the 'bomb'.

Happens to me all the time on de_train. Still a great CS map.
 
2006-07-21 12:53:23 PM
Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The gunpowder, treason, and plot.
For I see no rason why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot ...
 
2006-07-21 12:54:04 PM
reason

/damn typos
 
2006-07-21 12:55:34 PM
What is this joke about British trains? Brits invented goddam trains FFS.

Surely they are bad everywhere. Just like buses, and women drivers.
 
2006-07-21 12:56:31 PM
"Could have killed hundreds??" Umm you could put a bomb in a passenger train that has almost no security and kill just as many.. So the issue is???
 
2006-07-21 12:58:50 PM
F Bizzy

Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The gunpowder, treason, and plot.
For I see no rason why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot ...


The only thing I remember is Natalie Portman in tight pants.
 
2006-07-21 01:02:25 PM
OriginalGamer: The funnier ending would have had him being shot to death while planting the 'bomb'.

Bomb down, outside.
 
2006-07-21 01:04:33 PM
The radioactive waste containers for trains generally are very solid, designed to withstand high speed collision, so I would suspect that any explosive device that can be carried wouldn't rupture it. As far as I see, we only have the reporters assumption that it could, but no expert statement to back that.
 
2006-07-21 01:18:42 PM
entropy--
From what I've seen, the people who oppose transporting nuclear waste will never, ever be satisfied with either the containers or the means of transport no matter how small the possibility of rupture or leakage. Even if the containers were so strong and well designed that the risk of leakage was (say) 0.00000000000000000001% they'd be moaning and crying over that as if the world were about to end.

/damn hippies
 
2006-07-21 01:19:59 PM
How big was this "bomb"? The storage casks for nuclear (or nucular if you prefer) waste in the US are TOUGH. Unless this guy was packing a 5 ton truck full of fake high explosives this doesn't warrant the hysteria he was trying to generate.

And since when do reporters go around trying to create news in the UK? In the US, sure, US news is nothing but info-tainment. But Great Britain? Tsk tsk.
 
2006-07-21 01:20:11 PM
The trains run just fine. It's running them on time that's the catch.

/Loves UK trains
//esp. the Lakeside & Haverthwaite Railway
 
2006-07-21 01:34:33 PM
The high volume lines in the UK are really good, if expensive. The backwater and medium volume lines can be somewhat unreliable timewise, but are fairly cheap. I dont really have all that much problem with the trains over here.

Would also agree in general its unlikely a home made device would have any serious effect on these containers in most cases, you might derail the car, and with a well designed explosive charge you might be able to penetrate the container and cause a leak (which would be expensive to clean up, but not very dangerous unless the explosives were rigged to explode while the car was on a bridge over a river which seems very unlikely unless manually controlled), but the payback in damage is miniscule for the effort put in, compared to much more easily planned and executed attacks against civilians and infrastructure.
 
2006-07-21 01:39:41 PM
US nuclear waste vessels are well armored MF's, I don't think knocking them into a river would do that much. You could bust one, but you'd need a big shaped charge correctly placed, and the puncture wouldn't be huge. Easier to kill civilians directly.
 
2006-07-21 01:42:18 PM
entropy--

The radioactive waste containers for trains generally are very solid, designed to withstand high speed collision, so I would suspect that any explosive device that can be carried wouldn't rupture it.

Ahh...you're going after the wrong target. Of COURSE the actual containers are too tough. So you take out something easier.
Consider the entire I'm sure you could think of something on a moving train carrying nuclear containers that would be easier to cause major damage to, and cause massive problems.
 
2006-07-21 01:43:23 PM
grrrr
"Consider the entire vehicle. I'm sure you could think of something on a moving train carrying nuclear containers that would be easier to cause major damage to, and cause massive problems."
 
2006-07-21 01:57:48 PM
choice and consequence
US nuclear waste vessels are well armored MF's,

I thought it was nuclear wessels?
/I've seen those containers hit by another train and not rupture
//nothing to see here, move along
 
2006-07-21 02:58:29 PM
Mussolini made his trains run on time...

/Urban Myth
//Seriously
 
2006-07-21 03:01:14 PM
i69.photobucket.com

A dromedary has one bomb and a camel has a refreshment car, buffet, and ticket collector.
 
2006-07-21 03:09:08 PM
If you do manage to take out the tracks for the train, they'll have to call in these guys

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blast_Corps

/Too lazy to learn html
 
2006-07-21 03:16:15 PM
YouPeopleAreCrazy: Consider the entire vehicle. I'm sure you could think of something on a moving train carrying nuclear containers that would be easier to cause major damage to, and cause massive problems.

No doubt. However, those massive problems would not involve a release of what's inside those flasks.

Those flasks are designed so that the car they're carried on could be turned on their side, laid across the tracks, and hit by another massive train going full speed, without ever leaking.

And then tested, to make sure they could meet that design criterion:

www.old-dalby.com
(Or if you prefer to watch the animated gif: http://www.old-dalby.com/crash_animation.htm)

If they can pass tests like that with flying colors, the only "major problems" you'd face from such a bombing would be political ones, not decontamination ones.
 
2006-07-21 03:29:29 PM
Dear Sky.com,

Allow me to introduce you to hspace="10", and her more-advanced cousin, margin-right: 10px;. I think you will get along famously.
 
2006-07-21 03:37:40 PM
Those flasks are designed so that the car they're carried on could be turned on their side, laid across the tracks, and hit by another massive train going full speed, without ever leaking.

(enviro-hippie-mode)
But what if it gets rammed by another train carrying tankers filled with concentrated acid, the acid tanks burst, acid gets sloshed all over the radiation container, and the container partially melts away? Can you prove that it wouldn't leak radioactive waste under those conditions? YOU CAN'T? OMFG, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!1!
(end enviro-hippie-mode)
 
2006-07-21 03:54:02 PM
very dangerous unless the explosives were rigged to explode while the car was on a bridge over a river which seems very unlikely unless manually controlled

Haven't heard of GPS have we. It would be a factor of the cost and the risk out weighing the reward. You would need a GPS, a program to trip it when it's over the bridge, and likely a shaped charge to puncture the transport container, then you need to plant it, with the GPS antenna in a visible to the sky position (I suppose a bluetooth GPS could be used), and hope that you don't get caught planting it, or that inspectors don't find it later on.
 
2006-07-21 04:30:02 PM
Was the reported white? Just anecdotal evidence but if anyone actually saw the employees actually appearing to work on the NYC subway everyone would know something is up.
 
2006-07-21 04:54:24 PM
Those flasks are designed so that the car they're carried on could be turned on their side, laid across the tracks, and hit by another massive train going full speed, without ever leaking.

---

And built by the lowest bidder.
 
2006-07-21 04:54:47 PM
If this happened in America the person would have been arrested by the TSA

Hope Al-quida is taking notes
 
2006-07-21 06:23:41 PM

2006-07-21 03:29:29 PM lostcat

Dear Sky.com,

Allow me to introduce you to hspace="10", and her more-advanced cousin, margin-right: 10px;. I think you will get along famously.


no shiat.
 
2006-07-21 08:25:00 PM
Brits marvel at sight of actual functioning train
www.thecollaborative.com
/American.
//Still think it had to be said.

///s/ashy
 
2006-07-21 09:33:56 PM
gradatim: (enviro-hippie-mode)
But what if it gets rammed by another train carrying tankers filled with concentrated acid, the acid tanks burst, acid gets sloshed all over the radiation container, and the container partially melts away? Can you prove that it wouldn't leak radioactive waste under those conditions? YOU CAN'T? OMFG, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!1!
(end enviro-hippie-mode)


You'd have the concoction spill over you and grant you super powers.
 
2006-07-22 01:54:04 PM

Two points -

1. I'm sure they check the trains before actually setting off with actual waste - they drive non-stop from the power station to the reprocessing plant.

2. Those 'flasks' are the toughest mo'fo's you'll ever see - you could leave a smoking crater where the train had been and there'd be a flask left in the bottom of it.

There's a reason only the Mirror reported this - it's sensationalist bollocks.
 
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