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(CNN)   Valerie Plame sues Cheney, Rove and Libby for conspiring to destroy her career   (cnn.com) divider line 783
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2006-07-13 05:15:10 PM  
I normally hate law suits like this, but I am really hoping that we'll get to see Cheney and Rove squirm when they take the stand.
I am sure that there will be several questions where they will have to either lie or plead the fifth. Unfortunately, I think that given the choice they would purger themselves.
 
2006-07-13 05:15:11 PM  
Plame was outed, twice, over ten years ago. Which is why the CIA pulled her from overseas posting and stuck her in Langley. That and the fact she was a CIA employee was the biggest secret non-secret in Washington.
 
2006-07-13 05:16:14 PM  
FRCP_61: Plame was outed, twice, over ten years ago. Which is why the CIA pulled her from overseas posting and stuck her in Langley. That and the fact she was a CIA employee was the biggest secret non-secret in Washington.


BUSHshiat
 
2006-07-13 05:16:39 PM  
Love her or hate her, lets admit Fark is the worst court of public opinion on the planet...
 
2006-07-13 05:16:53 PM  
It was her jackass husband who hurt her career by lying to congress about who suggested he go to Nigeria in the first place.
 
2006-07-13 05:16:54 PM  
The ramifications of this should have been political (rather than civil damages) but the administration has been very adept at spinning this as this thread shows quite clearly. At best, Bush has flat out lied to the American public about this whole mess. Congratulations to all defending him for once again lowering the bar for accountability.
 
2006-07-13 05:17:09 PM  
for the record, here is Ulta-liberal (not) US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald on this whole covert/not covert question:

____________


...
Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer. In July 2003, the fact that Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer was classified. Not only was it classified, but it was not widely known outside the intelligence community.

... The fact that she was a CIA officer was not well- known, for her protection or for the benefit of all us. It's important that a CIA officer's identity be protected, that it be protected not just for the officer, but for the nation's security.
....
Valerie Wilson's cover was blown in July 2003. The first sign of that cover being blown was when Mr. Novak published a column on July 14th, 2003.

___________________________
 
2006-07-13 05:17:15 PM  
Theaetetus

She was the only one. Fake cover.

/sue the government!
//Yeah, see how far that gets you
 
2006-07-13 05:17:17 PM  
I'd hit it
 
2006-07-13 05:17:28 PM  
Magorn President Bush (I've always said right was going to regret Jones v. Clinton one day)
Clinton v. Jones only applies to acts before the president takes office doesn't it?

This case raises a constitutional and a prudential question concerning the Office of the President of the United States. Respondent, a private citizen, seeks to recover damages from the current occupant of that office based on actions allegedly taken before his term began. The President submits that in all but the most exceptional cases the Constitution requires federal courts to defer such litigation until his term ends and that, in any event, respect for the office warrants such a stay. Despite the force of the arguments supporting the President's submissions, we conclude that they must be rejected.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0520_0681_ZO.html
 
2006-07-13 05:18:07 PM  
atate_esq: Truemagellen: Bigot

crybaby hick


Forgot to add my sniffles to go along with my statement.

I'll try again.

"My cousin/sister/wife [sniffle] done said that you's a bigot [breaks down crying]."
 
2006-07-13 05:18:41 PM  
Biffdangler,

give me one piece of proof that Bush was right about the forged uranium documents and that Wilson was wrong. Then give me proof that getting back at Wilson just cuz he turned out to be right was in the public interest.
 
2006-07-13 05:18:53 PM  

2006-07-13 05:15:11 PM FRCP_61
Plame was outed, twice, over ten years ago. Which is why the CIA pulled her from overseas posting and stuck her in Langley. That and the fact she was a CIA employee was the biggest secret non-secret in Washington.


And the fact that the US was monitoring finances was the biggest secret in Washington? Sure.
 
2006-07-13 05:18:55 PM  
Bush apologists /= those who disagree - for the last time!

I also love the "reverse but... but... Clinton" term. Too much.
 
2006-07-13 05:18:57 PM  
Truemagellen:

Read thte breif turned in by the NY Times when Fitzie was going after them to disclose sources. The NY Times kept saying there was no crime because she was already outed. Follow the link. Read the link. Then follow the articles link to the NY Times brief or better yet, Google/Ask it yourself. Plain as day. The Link is your friend.
 
2006-07-13 05:19:15 PM  
BiffDangler: Yes, if you as a CIA agent is creating a major international problem by using nepotism to secure a junket for your loser husband, and then letting him run around lying about reporting to the vice president. You should expect that you would get in trouble for being such a dumbass.

So this same law also allows the Vice President (just as an example) to out a CIA agent because he believes that this agent may be guilty of nepotism?
 
2006-07-13 05:19:22 PM  
2006-07-13 05:07:03 PM Bloody William [TotalFark]


Cognitive dissonance so thick you could cut it with a spoon.

The New York Times published unclassified information. TERRORIST SYMPATHIZERS! SHOOT THEM!

The administration released the identity of an undercover CIA agent to get back at her husband. Pfffft, everyone already knew it and the biatch deserved it!


Actually, a more reasonable explanation is that they inadvertently outed her and that their motive was to discredit Wilson as a source of information by implying that his mission was informal and that his wife got him the job by pulling strings. But it makes sense that Wilson is pushing your theory of a deliberate act of revenge against him. After all, that creates the grounds for a lucrative lawsuit, the intent to do harm to them persoanlly.
 
2006-07-13 05:20:04 PM  
Ah yes, serious grievences against the Busch admin. is now attention whoring.

K.
Gotcha.
 
2006-07-13 05:20:59 PM  
I clicked on the thread to see what the "smart" conservatives were saying about this. Then I realized that there weren't any.

Spin it and suck it.
 
2006-07-13 05:21:09 PM  
FRCP_61: Plame was outed, twice, over ten years ago. Which is why the CIA pulled her from overseas posting and stuck her in Langley. That and the fact she was a CIA employee was the biggest secret non-secret in Washington.

Truemagellen
BUSHshiat

To my sister/cousin/wife/mother: "Wow...you done seen that smarty smart talkin' he done did thar! He got's to be a kinder garden gradite I tell ya!"
 
2006-07-13 05:22:00 PM  
Animatronik: a more reasonable explanation is that they inadvertently outed her and that their motive was to discredit Wilson as a source of information by implying that his mission was informal and that his wife got him the job by pulling strings.

Oh, its ok because they were just releasing classified information to discredit someone calling them out on their bullshiat reasons for going to war? Allright.
 
2006-07-13 05:22:09 PM  
Gawd this is boring... Nothing will happen. You can't fight "the man" and win.

/Another attention whore.
 
2006-07-13 05:22:23 PM  
BiffDangler: Yes, if you as a CIA agent is creating a major international problem by using nepotism to secure a junket for your loser husband, and then letting him run around lying about reporting to the vice president. You should expect that you would get in trouble for being such a dumbass.

Wilson never said that he reported to the Vice-President. That's a right-wing spin. He said that the VPs office requested information and that the CIA sent him to get that info. If you have proof of your statements please provide them.
 
2006-07-13 05:22:25 PM  
BiffDangler: Some blowhard retard was going around lying his *ss off about foreign policy matters and falsley claiming things like that he has reported to Dick Cheney, etc. He was a liar, who made stuff up, stuff that affected international relations.

Yeah, 'cause the Bush Admin is totally leveling with us about them WMD'S & stuff. So where's your evidance that Saddam purchased the yellow cake? And by purchased I mean a deal was doable and nego... oh nevermind, you don't care how much you've been lied to, long as W keeps you safe. Are we that much better than Israel with the anti-tuurah thing?
Looking forward to reading John Deans' book, kinda not expecting any su-prizez though.
/
 
2006-07-13 05:23:19 PM  
atate_esq: To my sister/cousin/wife/mother: "Wow...you done seen that smarty smart talkin' he done did thar! He got's to be a kinder garden gradite I tell ya!"

This is while you are in bed with that sister/cousin/wife/mother of course ;).

No seriously this lawsuit wonderful I can't wait :).
 
2006-07-13 05:23:33 PM  
cigare1.fatcow.com
 
2006-07-13 05:23:35 PM  
Pockafrusta: You can't fight "the man" and win.

Nixon would disagree.
 
2006-07-13 05:23:54 PM  
Chuck Wagon

It not like by conforming that she exists everyone suddenly knows she is a cia agent.

Of course it is, you moron. How can anyone exist AND be married AND be listed in a book if they don't work for the CIA? Jeez. And even worse for your lame argument, by posting here you've now confirmed your existence, so now we all know you also work for the CIA. You can try and pretend you don't, but my logic is flawless.
 
2006-07-13 05:24:10 PM  
Rodeodoc: What career? Her filing career or her paper shuffling career?

Or her media whore career?



That's some weak troll right there.

Work on it.
 
2006-07-13 05:24:43 PM  
Mousie was quoted as saying "Lets all make love in London tonight". Meanwhile Cattie hoisted the blame clearly onto Condie's shoulders "I think she's hiding something between those teeth".

/obligatory
Booger was unavailable for comment.
 
2006-07-13 05:24:47 PM  
TheAnvil

It was her jackass husband who hurt her career by lying to congress about who suggested he go to Nigeria in the first place

He said he was sent by the CIA to Niger to find answers to questions that were being asked by Dick Cheney's office. He never explicitly said that he was recommended by his wife, true.

Why? His wife was publically known as a consultant for an energy company. It'd look suspicious if he said he was sent to Niger because of his consultant wife.
 
2006-07-13 05:24:50 PM  
The suit might have more legs if the also claims they asked her for a blowjob as well.
 
2006-07-13 05:25:03 PM  
Truemagellen: BUSHshiat


thanks mods...blame the Yuengling
 
2006-07-13 05:25:05 PM  
Biffdangler,

give me one piece of proof that Bush was right about the forged uranium documents and that Wilson was wrong. Then give me proof that getting back at Wilson just cuz he turned out to be right was in the public interest.


There is none because it is too different stories altogether. Bush's yellowcake story came from a foreign intelligence service. Plame sends her jackass husband over there, who admittedly didn't go anywhere, he stayed at his hotel and his friend in the gov't said "hey, this isn't true". Wilson comes back and starts lying his ass off, claiming that Cheney sent him on this mission and then ignored his findings. The white house, not neccssairly trying to out plame, has to do something... they point out to "hey, this is just some jackass we have never heard of whose wife sent him on the trip". What the hell were they supposed to do? It was a bad deal all around, but was brought on by plame and wilson.

 
2006-07-13 05:25:06 PM  
So where's your evidance that Saddam purchased the yellow cake?

I'm not aware of anyone saying that Saddam did purchase yellow cake. I thought the suggestion was that he was seeking a deal to do so through his nuclear advisor, but that a deal had not yet been struck? Just talks or requests or suggestions?
 
2006-07-13 05:25:12 PM  
I liked her with the scarf and glasses in that one cover photo she did.

/milf
//would hit it
///pointy knees? No sure.
////otherwise this is a waste of time
 
2006-07-13 05:25:32 PM  
2006-07-13 05:14:39 PM Dinki [TotalFark]

Here's a clue for the clueless- the minute she was outed, her carreer was over. the VF article had absolutly nothing to do with whether she was staying in the cia or not.


The very minute? Huh, why is it that she retired in november 2005 after 20 years of service?

It obviously didn't hurt her that much since she could have stayed on. So again, the VF article was obviously meant to get her a promotion.
 
2006-07-13 05:26:55 PM  
elchip


He said he was sent by the CIA to Niger to find answers to questions that were being asked by Dick Cheney's office. He never explicitly said that he was recommended by his wife, true.


Wrong. He specifically said his wife did not send him, and he specifially said that he went at the request of Cheney and that he reported to Cheney. The lying jerk brought this on himself by seriously disrupting international affairs in order to inflate his own ego and feel important.

 
2006-07-13 05:27:07 PM  
In other news, Congress announces new tort reform legislation--there shall be no suing members of the Bush administration, for anything, ever.
 
2006-07-13 05:27:24 PM  
Truemagellen

This is while you are in bed with that sister/cousin/wife/mother of course ;).

I done figured you'd warm up to meh.

But seriously, this law suit is crap.;)
 
2006-07-13 05:27:35 PM  
Dubya's wingnuts sure got their talking points out quick on this one, didn't they?
Must be getting desperate, or perhaps they're afraid of the shiatstorm.

Face it, you pathetic 28%---the administration broke the law, for pure spite, and there's no way you can spin that fact.
 
2006-07-13 05:27:42 PM  
It was her jackass husband who hurt her career by lying to congress about who suggested he go to Nigeria in the first place.

I believe that you are the first person to suggest he go to Nigeria.

You're not a Cardinals fan, by any chance are you?
 
2006-07-13 05:27:46 PM  
BiffDangler

This game isn't fair if you just make stuff up.
 
2006-07-13 05:27:58 PM  
FRCP_61: Plame was outed, twice, over ten years ago. Which is why the CIA pulled her from overseas posting and stuck her in Langley. That and the fact she was a CIA employee was the biggest secret non-secret in Washington.

So if Fidel Castro and Vladimir Putin maybe knew who she was, third world Asian nations interested in nuclear technology automatically knew as well?

Also, the fact that she had a desk job was irrelevant considering she supposedly worked for an energy company. Her cover blown = front company's cover blown = blown cover for anyone claiming to work for the company.

You know, their next door neighbors didn't know that she was a CIA agent until Novak's column...
 
2006-07-13 05:28:10 PM  
I like this line from when she retired:

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/58558.htm

She remained at the CIA for the past year in order to be eligible for a full government pension.

I guess the $2.5 million book deal wasn't enough?
 
2006-07-13 05:28:50 PM  
roddicksinathome


Yeah, 'cause the Bush Admin is totally leveling with us about them WMD'S & stuff. So where's your evidance that Saddam purchased the yellow cake? And by purchased I mean a deal was doable and nego... oh nevermind, you don't care how much you've been lied to, long as W keeps you safe. Are we that much better than Israel with the anti-tuurah thing?


I am not a W supporter. They may have lied. That doesn't take away from the fact that a woman sent her husband on a trip, and he came back lying his ass off about it. What was the administration supposed to do? They have to say "hey, this is just some jerkwad whose wife sent him on the trip".

 
2006-07-13 05:29:06 PM  
 
2006-07-13 05:29:56 PM  
BiffDangler: They have to say "hey, this is just some jerkwad whose wife sent him on the trip".

Or they could have proved they weren't lying. Hell, they could have just ignored it like they do with everything else!
 
2006-07-13 05:30:07 PM  
BiffDangler: The lying jerk brought this on himself by seriously disrupting international affairs in order to inflate his own ego and feel important.

How did he disrupt international affairs by trying to tell the truth? Sounds more like Bush & Co. disrupted more international affairs by foolishly invading a country which posed no threat to us while ignoring evidence that demonstrated that intelligence claiming Iraq had WMD's was false.
 
2006-07-13 05:30:15 PM  
people.lulu.com

/farkin "A!"
 
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