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Puppeteer_23		2006-07-12 09:16:44 AM

Defended your rights and freedoms? Is this a trick question, Submitter?

/Enough with the ACLU-bashing greenlights, already.
//Why do you hate America and the Constitution?

Release the Hounds		2006-07-12 09:29:58 AM

So, only now are these inmates understanding the whole concept of prison?

That's what prison does, it takes away your civil rights. Next time they should read the fine print before they kill somebody.

/Asshats.

Puppeteer_23		2006-07-12 10:17:23 AM

Release the Hounds: That's what prison does, it takes away your civil rights.

Agreed. I'm sure this would be shot down on that principle, but the problem is, content bans tend to be pretty broad.

I'm going to guess that the lawmakers who passed this probably wrote it overly broadly and it'll ultimately get tossed.

Not that I necessarily agree with either side, but just my opinion.

ignoramus		2006-07-12 10:36:28 AM

"The policy may also may bar books such as steamy novels by the best-selling author Jackie Collins that have been available in the past through the prison library, the lawsuit claims."

They have Jackie Collins in prison? I thought Gitmo was bad.

lamb0176		2006-07-12 10:36:46 AM

Puppeteer_23: //Why do you hate America and the Constitution?
LOL...
/flamey

Partisan		2006-07-12 10:37:04 AM

Release the Hounds: That's what prison does, it takes away your civil rights. Next time they should read the fine print before they kill somebody.

/Asshats.

Yeah, those asshole freedom defenders. Grrrrr.

brap		2006-07-12 10:37:18 AM

Pansies. Back in my day we used to fashion facsimiles of Barbi Benton out of bits of string and gravel smuggled in from the yard.

MWeather		2006-07-12 10:37:19 AM

The last things we need to give prisoners is sexual outlets. That's what the other inmates' anuses are for.

Dinki		2006-07-12 10:37:25 AM

"The policy is written so broadly that it includes within its prohibitions such things as personal letters between prisoners and loved ones and much of the world's great literature and art," said the complaint, which was prepared by the American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana.

Seems pretty clear- if the statute effectively prohibits personal letters, than it's probably unconstitutional.

HotWingConspiracy		2006-07-12 10:38:02 AM

B-b-but NAMBLA!!!

pleaseleavemebe		2006-07-12 10:38:07 AM

It's comforting to know that when the man finally catches up with me I won't have to cancel my subscription to Glory Hole Monthly.

ihatedumbpeople		2006-07-12 10:38:16 AM

Prisons shouldn't have TVs, weight rooms, porn, or anything not considered a necessity (food, water, a roof I guess). They should be happy they have toilet paper. As far as I'm concerned, they should be in their cages or working all day, nothing else. When you're not working, you better be in your cell. Prison is PUNISHMENT, not a friggin' HoJo. People wouldn't try to go back if it was bad enough in there, people may actually try to reform themselves if prison were as bad as it should be.

aaeko		2006-07-12 10:38:25 AM

"The policy may also may bar books "

/scratching his head

HandsomeRyan		2006-07-12 10:38:27 AM

if they had some pr0n maybe they wouldnt need so much butsecks?

Headso		2006-07-12 10:39:26 AM

They should encourage the guys to jerk off to porn magazines not ban them, it would make for a more mellow prison experience.

Partisan		2006-07-12 10:40:51 AM

ihatedumbpeople: people may actually try to reform themselves if prison were as bad as it should be.

Prison is supposed to be reform though. Ar you from the 1200s or something?

Headso		2006-07-12 10:41:25 AM

ihatedumbpeople

More people would be inclined to agree with that if 90% of the people in prisons aren't in there for stupid things like growing a plant, or betting on sports, or paying for a blowjob.

Puppeteer_23		2006-07-12 10:41:58 AM

lamb0176: Puppeteer_23: //Why do you hate America and the Constitution?
LOL...
/flamey

Yeah, i'm just sick of the ACLU bashing, especially when THE FARKING ARTICLE DOESN"T EVEN MENTION THEM!!

Puppeteer_23		2006-07-12 10:43:17 AM

Puppeteer_23: Yeah, i'm just sick of the ACLU bashing, especially when THE FARKING ARTICLE DOESN"T EVEN MENTION THEM!!

Aargh. Yeah, i'm an idiot. I passed that over twice, so yeah they're in there. Nevahmind.

HotWingConspiracy		2006-07-12 10:44:04 AM

"Prison is PUNISHMENT, not a friggin' HoJo. People wouldn't try to go back if it was bad enough in there, people may actually try to reform themselves if prison were as bad as it should be."

How come you're not in prison? It sounds so awesome.

The Drunk IT Guy		2006-07-12 10:44:08 AM

Ok ya, lets take all female pics away from these guys, thats a GREAT idea. It wont be much longer before that formally hetero prisoner starts getting frisky. Maybee a few months, maybee a few years, but many more guys than usual will start getting some poor new inmates butt around their cock.

Since we're so happy so lock anyone up for the littlest reasons, I say Fark this...

velvet_paw		2006-07-12 10:44:45 AM

ihatedumbpeople:

Prisons shouldn't have TVs, weight rooms, porn, or anything not considered a necessity (food, water, a roof I guess). They should be happy they have toilet paper. As far as I'm concerned, they should be in their cages or working all day, nothing else. When you're not working, you better be in your cell. Prison is PUNISHMENT, not a friggin' HoJo. People wouldn't try to go back if it was bad enough in there, people may actually try to reform themselves if prison were as bad as it should be.

Must be tough lookin' in the mirror. Troll much?

herne		2006-07-12 10:45:28 AM

ihatedumbpeople: Prisons shouldn't have TVs, weight rooms, porn, or anything not considered a necessity

With you except Weight rooms. Like the ban on smoking coming in many places though.

mcsiegs		2006-07-12 10:45:32 AM

Since we're so happy so lock anyone up for the littlest reasons, I say Fark this...

Bears repeating...

BlazeTrailer		2006-07-12 10:45:51 AM

Release the Hounds: Next time they should read the fine print before they kill somebody.

Or just to cover other possible circumstances: "...before they fail to raise enough money to avoid a couldn't-be-less-engaged public defender scaring them into a 'no contest' plea" - seen it happen. Given that these people don't have a voice politically, I'm alright with the ACLU attempting to pull an ear to the voiceless.

fireclown		2006-07-12 10:46:12 AM

I'm for prisoers getting all the pron they can handle. That and PS2s would reduce prison violence by at least half.

Spank my ButtMonkey		2006-07-12 10:46:42 AM

well, don't you know it is their right to have a comfortable stay in PRISON??????

WTF? I can't afford to buy porn! I can see it now, after they win this round, they will then sue the government demanding that in addition to the satellite or cable TV (again, which I can't afford right now), they get a subscription to the porn magazine of their choice.

"Inmate 126568632, here is your toothbrush, change of underwear, jar of vaseline, and your motorcycle magazine that I am sure only look at for the exhaust pipes and handle bars, and not the naked chicas sitting on the bikes"

//they don't even need a roof, give them a plastic tarp!

IamAwake		2006-07-12 10:47:30 AM

Puppeteer_23
Yeah, i'm just sick of the ACLU bashing, especially when THE FARKING ARTICLE DOESN"T EVEN MENTION THEM!!

Before you say something like that, perhaps you should try RingTFA.

"The policy is written so broadly that it includes within its prohibitions such things as personal letters between prisoners and loved ones and much of the world's great literature and art," said the complaint, which was prepared by the American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana.

MWeather		2006-07-12 10:48:03 AM

Puppeteer_23: Yeah, i'm just sick of the ACLU bashing, especially when THE FARKING ARTICLE DOESN"T EVEN MENTION THEM!!

Yes, it does.

Puppeteer_23		2006-07-12 10:49:35 AM

IamAwake: Before you say something like that, perhaps you should try RingTFA.

Before you say something like that, perhaps you should read my post immediately after that one.

Puppeteer_23		2006-07-12 10:50:12 AM

MWeather: Yes, it does.

Yeah, I know.

doober3		2006-07-12 10:50:21 AM

ef dem mutha ef-ers

Headso		2006-07-12 10:50:35 AM

IamAwake: Before you say something like that, perhaps you should try RingTFA.

before you go to the trouble of quoting the article in nice italics and bold you should read his following post...

mcsiegs		2006-07-12 10:51:05 AM

MWeather and IamAwake

Read the thread over again before you spurt off about Puppeteer

Headso		2006-07-12 10:52:19 AM

Spank my ButtMonkey: WTF? I can't afford to buy porn! I can see it now, after they win this round, they will then sue the government demanding that in addition to the satellite or cable TV (again, which I can't afford right now), they get a subscription to the porn magazine of their choice.

since you think prison is such a great place why not go on a crime spree and then turn yourself in? You will be living the high life in no time!

Incredulous		2006-07-12 10:53:40 AM

The ACLU and the prisoners have two different agendas.

For the prisoners, it's all about recreation and entertainment. They really couldn't care less about the success or failure of the lawsuit or the substantive issues it addresses. It's simply something to do, a chance to connect with the outside world, a chance to require someone to pay attention to them and maybe, just maybe, a chance to actually get out for a few hours so as to make a court appearance.

For the ACLU, however, the poorly-worded, over-reaching legislation threatens free speech. If legislators can make such broad prohibitions for one group of people, it potentially opens the door to do so for another.

What the ACLU is all about is limiting the ability of government to intrude upon civil liberties. I generally think that's a good thing. Which is why I'm a card-carrying, dues-paying member of the ACLU.

Puppeteer_23		2006-07-12 10:54:04 AM

Headso, McSiegs

Thanks, folks! It's amazing how easy it is to scan an article and miss a nice big chunk of it, isn't it? ;)

lamb0176		2006-07-12 10:54:24 AM

I wonder how long they'll keep correcting Puppeteer_23 after reading 10:41:58 AM post then NOT reading the one a minute later...
/goodbye time

docwizz		2006-07-12 10:54:43 AM

don't you know they're digging tunnels behind the centerfolds hung on the walls

mcsiegs		2006-07-12 10:55:14 AM

Puppeteer_23

I have to stick up for my fellow PA citizens

BlazeTrailer		2006-07-12 10:56:21 AM

Isn't a life without porn possibly "cruel and unusual"?

Albert		2006-07-12 10:56:29 AM

Prison is supposed to be hard. Kind of like a punishment of sorts. If you go to prison you should have a 5 x 9Ft concrete cell with no radio, tv, porn, smokes, cards, etc.

If you don't want to have your porn and smokes taken away then don't break the law, it is all rather simple.

Spank my ButtMonkey		2006-07-12 10:56:59 AM

Headso

since you think prison is such a great place why not go on a crime spree and then turn yourself in? You will be living the high life in no time!

mmmm...I checked what I wrote, don't recall saying it was the holiday inn, I do, however object that certain things are given to them, that the rest of us have to spend money on. Why can't they live on old readers digests (doctors offices across the US unite, and send them instead of throw them), and what is wrong with crappy reception public television? Do I think it is a great place? Umm, no. Do I think they are given more than they need, Yes!

//Prison is punishment.

Puppeteer_23		2006-07-12 10:57:23 AM

mcsiegs: I have to stick up for my fellow PA citizens

Rock out. Where abouts in PA?

Puppeteer_23		2006-07-12 10:57:58 AM

BlazeTrailer: Isn't a life without porn possibly "cruel and unusual"?

It would be for me, i'll tell ya that.

Mangoose		2006-07-12 10:58:34 AM

Give me porno or give me death

Dr._Michael_Hfuhruhurr		2006-07-12 11:00:25 AM

Spank my ButtMonkey

...I can't even afford porn...

What? You WRITE my porn!

/you need a reach-around?

Headso		2006-07-12 11:00:44 AM

Spank my ButtMonkey: Do I think it is a great place? Umm, no. Do I think they are given more than they need, Yes!

Fine, I give you the same answer I gave that other poster, if most of the people were not in there for committing victimless non-violent crimes people like me would say "yeah screw them they are all just murderers and child rapists, they can live off pig shiat for all I care"