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(The Sun)   62-year-old woman gives birth to healthy baby boy, who is now his own grandpa. The Sun is there (pics)   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 91
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2006-07-09 06:38:36 AM
dfenstrate: Hey, all you farkers who can't think of a good reason for anyone to have kids..... I've got one.

So someone can take care of our old asses when we age.


Wow, what a selfless reason.
 
2006-07-09 06:41:53 AM
Unfair to the child? He was born into a loving family who can afford a child, have plenty of resources, and have certainly given thought to who would raise him in the event the parents pass away before he reaches maturity.

The average lifespan for a woman is now around 87 years old. It used to be unusual for anyone to reach 100 years; there are so many now that the 'Today' show gave up the birthday greetings.

Unfair? I've seen too many teenaged parents popping out babies they had no idea how to care for. This child is born into a family that is intelligent and financially secure. Besides, there are zero guarantees that any parent will live to see their child reach adulthood; two of my high school friends died of cancer, one at 28 and another at 35, leaving small children.

Unfair is having a child who won't be loved. This one clearly will be, by parents who know what they're doing.
 
2006-07-09 07:18:31 AM
Your momma's so old...!
 
2006-07-09 07:46:55 AM
Theres a reason nature puts a stop to fertility at around 45.
over 45 and you'll find it tough.

If they wanted a kid so bad why not help some poor african kid escape poverty?

/I'm 47 and find it tough enough with teenage sons.
//God knows how I'd find it at 76.
/// Hickprincess makes a good point tho0. but I'm add my 2c
 
2006-07-09 08:28:03 AM
Congrats to having a healthy baby but WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
 
2006-07-09 08:41:30 AM
I'm with HickPrincess. This child has been born to loving parents. No one's life-length is guaranteed (even if they're in their 20s.) The arguments presented against are kneejerk.

Oh wait. This is fark.

Carry on.

But I still agree with HickPrincess. They're lucky the baby is healthy and he's lucky he has parents who wanted him. The rest is something they will get through as a family. Selfish? Maybe. But there are lots of things people do that are selfish and it still results in good things. If this child grows up to be a good person, the world is blessed for it.

As a side note: I have PCOS. This does affect my viewpoint a bit. If I could have a guaranteed healthy child in my 60's with a pretty good chance at living into my 90s, I'd probably go for it. (By then my student loans would be paid off and I could afford a child...) Heck, given the rate that healthcare is improving, it may even happen.

On with the show.
 
2006-07-09 08:44:39 AM
HickPrincess is the only person who's made any sense at all in this thread.

Although I love the idea of having a genetically engineered helper monkey, even before I get old!
 
2006-07-09 08:57:42 AM
dfenstrate

So , a good reason to have kids is so i have a bunch of nurses when i grow old?


HickPrincess

i'll admit you make me rethink my stance. Having said that, while the average lifespan of a woman over there may be 87, will she have the energy required to keep up with the demands of her child when he/she is , say 10 y/o?

Longevity is one thing, being able to live is another.
 
2006-07-09 08:58:54 AM
The number one reason that people have kids is "because they get pregnant." That is supposed to be a joke, but it's probably true.

Adopt. adopt. adopt. Human beings are not another consumer item to be purchased and made to order, just because you can do it. I could take care of a Hummer and a 50,000 square-foot house too, it doesn't mean I should have one. It would be irresponsible and selfish.
 
2006-07-09 09:24:34 AM
SubLurker

How farking selfish and irresponsible! Utterly unfair to the child.

Absolutely right!
 
2006-07-09 09:30:26 AM
"The couple decided to call their son JJ after John gave his wife a Mother's Day card signed with the initials."

They obviously put a lot of thought into this.
 
2006-07-09 09:50:17 AM
cryinoutloud


Adopt. adopt. adopt.

Unfortunately, it's actually cheaper for a middle class family to get pregnant and have a child (thanks to health insurance) than to adopt.

/would rather adopt than go through pregnancy/labor again
 
2006-07-09 10:13:05 AM
I finally met the right man for me, to spend the rest of my life with -- I just turned 40, no kids, unmarried; he's 56, getting a divorce, one adopted son, none of his own.


Although a part of him would love to have his own child with me, I will not at our ages bring a kid into this world -- if we were both 10 years younger, different story. I do believe, if I want to be maternal, and it's ok with him, foster parenting would probably be extremely fulfilling.
 
2006-07-09 10:16:45 AM
Oh -- Why does that doctor look like Omar Sharif?
 
2006-07-09 10:24:34 AM
I'm with meridian - it's all about robots! No bio-offspring are guaranteed to help you out; that's an outdated notion from a period when people didn't travel more than 30 miles or so from their place of origin. The familial-social dynamic has changed greatly, although people don't want to admit it, and family has been replaced with other contacts chosen for other reasons. (This is in part due to land ownership and the decline of the family farm.)

Anyway, yes, the answer is robots. Meat is becoming obsolete.

/I'll also take a Singularity, hold the grey goo, thank you.
 
2006-07-09 10:33:19 AM
HickPrincess: Unfair? I've seen too many teenaged parents popping out babies they had no idea how to care for. This child is born into a family that is intelligent and financially secure. Besides, there are zero guarantees that any parent will live to see their child reach adulthood; two of my high school friends died of cancer, one at 28 and another at 35, leaving small children.

But, there is complete and actual guarantee that this woman and husband won't have the energy nor strength to guide the child beyond his 12th year (when they'll be 80). IMO, that is selfish. They won't be able to play ball with him after awhile, they may not be able to connect with him since they are 4 generations ahead of the kid, and they certainly won't be helping him move into his dorm room.

Though I don't hate the woman like some others seem to here, I think bringing a child into the world that you most likely won't be around to care for is irresponsible. On average, his siblings will be guiding him into adulthood...when they're in their 40's.
 
2006-07-09 10:49:15 AM
I had a 78 rpm record of "I'm My Own Grandma" as a child. My then 4-year-old brother dropped and shattered the shellac disc. (He's 27 now)

/The record was on Capitol from the late 40's, and probably not worth much anyway
 
2006-07-09 11:02:54 AM
But, there is complete and actual guarantee that this woman and husband won't have the energy nor strength to guide the child beyond his 12th year (when they'll be 80).

I know someone who is 84 and still skis. There are huge variations in how physically capable old people are. I generally agree with you, but it isn't a "complete and actual guarantee".
 
2006-07-09 11:14:22 AM
I am 38 and don't have the energy to play ball with my sons, adult daughter, or grandson. I had my first kiddo at the ripe old age of 17. Why don't I have the energy, or time, for that matter? Because like most people my age I have to work my farking butt off just to survive. This couple is retirement age. They won't have to choose between attending school activities or two hours of pay. they can spend entire summers exploring America. When Juniorflip comes home from school, both parents can be there, instead of them dragging home at 6:00pm or later and heating up frozen lasagna in the microwave.
 
2006-07-09 11:36:35 AM
On the upside, they'll be dead before the kid ends up in jail.
 
2006-07-09 11:42:40 AM
Attention whore
 
2006-07-09 12:29:36 PM
Just what the world needs - *another* kid.

People - STOP BREEDING.
 
2006-07-09 12:32:50 PM
testaclese: Just what the world needs - *another* kid.

People - STOP BREEDING.


Only the smart people are using birth control. The future sure will be interesting when only the retarded and their retarded babies will have inherited the earth.
 
2006-07-09 12:40:28 PM
Hopefully, he be out of diapers before mum is into them.
 
2006-07-09 12:49:43 PM
L33t Squirrel
/It's a pity that celibacy isn't hereditary

Actually, it is, kinda....

If your parents don't have kids, you probably won't have any either.


/yeah, I know... adoption screws it up..
 
2006-07-09 12:56:21 PM
I listened to I am my own Grandpa last week! LOL.

On subject: 62 and having babies is wrong, for now. If the average lifespan were 150, then, it would be ok.
 
2006-07-09 01:05:42 PM
If she played a lot of hockey when she was younger she may live to 130's.
 
2006-07-09 01:06:58 PM
dgarg:Only the smart people are using birth control. The future sure will be interesting when only the retarded and their retarded babies will have inherited the earth.

Sounds to me like an excellent argument in favor of the intelligent choosing to breed.

Why should anyone have kids? I can't speak for everyone but I'll tell you why we did:
1) Because we got pregnant
2) Because we chose to live beyond an existence consisting of self-gratification and self-indulgence (not saying that every childless person does this)
3) Because before we had children, we thought they were a gift, and now that we have them we know they are
4) Because there is nothing on this earth like the love a parent (well, a non-psycho parent) has for his or her child
5) Because having children and taking responsibility for them has forced us into more unselfishness, integrity, and strength of character than we would ever have thought about without them; having kids has taught me more about virtue than years of growing up having the Bible pounded into me by fundagelical parents

We didn't have kids to make us happy-- we were quite happy and fulfilled without them. It's just that now, we're even happier. Somehow, counterintuitively, living with and submitting ourselves to the needs of these helpless, demanding, exhausting, selfish little beings has brought us more joy than we ever imagined possible.

/Did I mention I'm seven months pregnant?
//No maudlin mommy hormones in this post. Noooooo. :)
 
2006-07-09 01:30:51 PM
I never knew my grandparents, they died young, my parents believed they would only live to be fifty something. My mom just passed away at 84 and my dad is doing fine at 89.

Health, and medicine, and who knows what else has increased longevity. And people are more active, older.

The average age to expect to reach for my generation is almost 80. Remember this includes all those who die young or from accidents.

My daughters generation con probably be expected to have an average of in the 90's.

For those too young to comprehend aging, or just knowing history - it was not that long ago when 60 was 2-3 lifetimes for people. Now 60 is the new 40.
 
2006-07-09 01:38:10 PM
BrassArt

Now 60 is the new 40

I don't know any menopausal women whose bodies FEEL 40.
 
2006-07-09 01:39:55 PM
This new baby is wanted and being raised in a secure, stable environment. However much the parents love the child though, there are some things that age is going to make difficult.

My brother and I were born to older parents. My mom was 32 (not old) and my dad 44 (not old) when I was born. My brother was born 9 years later after a couple of miscarriages. My dad was then 53 and my mom 41. I got to play baseball with my dad, my brother did not. My parents took me camping, they did not take my brother. I got disciplined when I acted up, my brother did not. When I wanted something, I was told to save up for it, my brother just got it. I could go on and on, but the point is they self-admit they were too old to deal with my brother despite loving him very much.

I also love my brother lots, but I know that as an adult I have it easier because I learned self-discipline pretty early on. I don't have a police record, don't expect anyone to bail me out of tough situations, I eat my veggies, and play outdoors more often. He's becoming more responsible everyday (and that's awesome), but there was a time when he was in high school and university I really thought I'd open the paper and read his name in the obits or the police blotter. And its not just because he was being a boy, my parents were too tired (read old and tired) to deal with him.
 
2006-07-09 03:07:21 PM
"We didn't have kids to make us happy-- we were quite happy and fulfilled without them. It's just that now, we're even happier. Somehow, counterintuitively, living with and submitting ourselves to the needs of these helpless, demanding, exhausting, selfish little beings has brought us more joy than we ever imagined possible."

The thing is, I admit...I`m a selfish prick. I will never understand why parents like to revolve their life around a dna molecule who will love them till they are old enough to think on their own, then hate you for the rest of their life till they have a child of their own. You get up in the middle of the night, feed them, bath them, change their diaper...Take them to school, if you eat am apple you hear "mommy i want that apple" and you automatically give it to them without hestitation. You have to understand not everyone wants to live their life surrounded by some little shiat whos gonna grow up to be successful or some dirty whorebag. I`m one of those who is not willing to take the risk.
I grew up in a loving home with loving parents(married for over 27 years), but I still dislike children unless they are related to me.

/Mom always gives me the apple.
//This older couple should be jailed for creating a child when they are going to crack in 10 years.
 
2006-07-09 04:42:16 PM
MusicMakeMyHeadPound [Totalfark] Amazing.
 
2006-07-09 05:48:14 PM
cowsspinach: As misanthropic as you are, your DNA still has encoded deep in your brain the need to reproduce. Anything else is dissembling.
 
2006-07-09 08:56:44 PM
The great thing about being human is not having to do everything that our DNA wants us to do.
 
2006-07-09 09:28:54 PM
Crap, Jin Verde you just described my childhood! My parents were 45 when they had me and were sadly in the grandparent stage, already having 2 grandchildren before me.
 
2006-07-09 10:55:45 PM
Quantum Apostrophe

All I`m saying is not everyone wants kids.

/If I want cheap meds, I`ll give you a call.
 
2006-07-10 12:09:14 AM
Not as selfish as 15 year olds who want to raise their babies, instead of giving them up to those capable of raising kids.

Maybe couples in their 40's. Not 60's. Couples in their sixties could foster some kids. That's only temporary, so it won't matter if they both have strokes.
 
2006-07-10 12:40:00 AM
Now many many years ago when I was twenty-three
I was married to a widow who was pretty as can be
This widow had a grown-up daughter who had hair of red
My father fell in love with her and soon they too were wed

This made my dad my son-in-law and changed my very life
My daughter was my mother 'cause she was my father's wife
To complicate the matter even though it brought me joy
I soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy

My little baby then became a brother-in-law to Dad
And so became my uncle, though it made me very sad
For if he was my uncle, then that also made him br'ther
Of the widow's grown-up daughter who was also my stepmother

Father's wife then had a son who kept them on the run
And he became my grandchild, for he was my daughter's son
My wife is now my mother's mother and it makes me blue
Because altho' she is my wife, she's my grandmother too

Now if my wife is my grandmother, then I'm her grandchild
And every time I think of it, it nearly drives me wild
For now I have become the strangest case I ever saw
As husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpa

Oh I'm my own grandpa
I'm my own granpa
It sounds funny I know,
But it really is so
Oh I'm my own grandpa

/wish I had a pic of the muppets who sang this (no seriously, it was on the old muppet show)
 
2006-07-10 10:53:28 AM
Yes the child will have the thrill of burying his mother between the ages of ten and 16. It'll be easy.


Mom..... glad to know you will get to see the kid grow up.

Stupid biatch.
 
2006-07-10 01:16:51 PM
koti.mbnet.fi
not impressed
 
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