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2006-07-02 12:06:48 PM  
Congratulations on sealing your faith, Hamas pigs.
 
2006-07-02 12:08:37 PM  
Hamas fight like girls. No honor.
Cowards.
/Suicide bombers are not brave. They are mentally ill.
 
2006-07-02 12:11:55 PM  
That's not even fighting like cowards. This is fighting like MONSTERS

Not only do they target civilians and act like barbarians but now they are openly saying: 'We're out to get your kids'

The response is going to be frightening.

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2006-07-02 12:12:36 PM  
yeah, try that, lets see how well it works out for you.
 
2006-07-02 12:14:50 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2006-07-02 12:15:21 PM  
I wonder how Fark's 'Give Hamas A Chance' squad will try to spin this one.
 
2006-07-02 12:16:44 PM  
Hamas attacks children!

this is news?
 
2006-07-02 12:18:28 PM  
Wow. And we Americans complain about electing idiotic people into office. At least they're not killing schoolkids.

/idiots
//interesting to see Israel's response
 
2006-07-02 12:18:37 PM  
Gahbrone: this is news?

When they were a terrorist group, not so much.

Now, they form the Palestinian Authority Government. We're talking a government elected in a democratic way threatening to kill children.

Not only is this news, but this is earth-shattering news so far as to how this conflict will evolve and it's perception in the world.
 
2006-07-02 12:21:25 PM  
To Tatsuma you listen.
 
2006-07-02 12:26:11 PM  
They have no honor, morals or scruples.
 
2006-07-02 12:27:55 PM  
Tatsuma: We're talking a government elected in a democratic way threatening to kill children.

Doesn't seem like the actual Governement, per se.

Mr Abbas' office said that Dr Haniyeh had no authority over the militants holding Corporal Shalit. They include both Hamas members and followers of the smaller Popular Resistance Committees and the previously unknown Islamic Army.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/egypt-pushes-compromise-to-avert-gaza-bloo dbath/2006/07/02/1151778811302.html

I could be wrong, tho. Either way, this is freeking absurd.
 
2006-07-02 12:33:04 PM  
BooBoo23: Saying it isn't the actual government is just about like saying "but it wasn't Senator Palpatine, it was Darth Sidious".

/geek references in political whine fests own!
 
2006-07-02 12:33:19 PM  
Abbas is only trying to defuse the tension. I think he's genuinely scared for his life and acting in consequences.

Hamas directly controls the PRC, although there is a struggle between the Gaza and Damascus Hamas branches over who will assume direct and unfetered control. Hamas are closer to the PRC than Sinn Fein was close to the IRA.

Hamas are the ones who are issuing the demands, giving infos about Gilad and controlling the whole thing.

They are very much in charge.
 
2006-07-02 12:35:42 PM  
I think we can update the dictionary to include this as a definition of "not good."
 
2006-07-02 12:37:11 PM  
"If they continue with these attacks, we will strike at targets in Zionist territory that we have not struck until now," said the organization's spokesman.


I don't see any quote with the word "schools" anywhere in that article.

Makes me wonder what the TRUTH really is.
 
2006-07-02 12:38:54 PM  
Golan and the west bank better lay low for a while, if the winds blow to the east then they may glow sometime in the relatively near future.
 
2006-07-02 12:40:43 PM  
Rhyno45: Golan and the west bank better lay low for a while, if the winds blow to the east then they may glow sometime in the relatively near future.

No nukes will be fired. Civilians casualties will stay as low as humanly possible.

But I think that the gloves are gonna come off this time. I seriously think. And they should.
 
2006-07-02 12:41:17 PM  
Kyosuke:
You must have missed it: In other air strikes overnight, the IAF fired missiles at a school in Gaza City

Of course, that was the IAF and they did it without threatening first.
 
2006-07-02 12:42:44 PM  
In other air strikes overnight, the IAF fired missiles at a school in Gaza City and at Hamas facilities in the northern Gaza town of Jabalya, where a Hamas operative was killed and another was wounded, Palestinian officials said.

Eh? wtf?
 
2006-07-02 12:44:23 PM  
staplermofo: Of course, that was the IAF and they did it without threatening first.

You most have missed the part where they said "overnight" and the other part where terrorists were inside "planning terror attacks against Israel."

Terrorists are farking scumbags. They hide inside schools. Inside of Mosque

A few months ago, the IAF shot down an Islamic Jihad bomb factory. Do you know what's the twist?

The factory was disguised as an ice cream truck and they kept children around as a decoy
 
2006-07-02 12:45:49 PM  
Tatsuma: A few months ago, the IAF shot down an Islamic Jihad bomb factory. Do you know what's the twist?

The factory was disguised as an ice cream truck and they kept children around as a decoy



A flying ice cream truck? Wicked!
 
2006-07-02 12:47:46 PM  
Tatsuma:
Terrorists are farking scumbags. They hide inside schools. Inside of Mosque
Any excuse for vengeance, I suppose.

\I've heard that Jews eat babies.
 
2006-07-02 12:47:55 PM  
Boojum2k: I think we can update the dictionary to include this as a definition of "not good."

With a note to the updated entry for "will not end well".

Tatsuma: I think he's genuinely scared for his life and acting in consequences.

I can believe that- missile strikes and assassination threats have a way of doing that, I would guess. Just seems like a sad, sad struggle- the Palestinians are now without power, water, and all roads are closed to shipements of medical goods, and I would imagine they're desparate. That they would openly state that they'd target schools, though, is pretty much suicide.

Tatsuma: They are very much in charge.

In private conversations with Fatah leaders, Haniyeh and his aides have insisted that the attack was carried out on instructions from Hamas leaders in Syria and Lebanon. Sources close to Haniyeh said on June 27 that those within Hamas's armed wing, Izaddin al-Kassam, who carried out the attack did not consult with the party's political leadership in Gaza and were intent on thwarting attempts to reach an agreement with Palestinian Authority President and Fatah leader Mahmoud Abbas over the Prisoners' Charter.

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/1730414.php (pops)

(yes, I realize this article is pretty biased)

Meh. I don't support one side or the other here, but find the suffering on both sides of the fence to be an awfully sad thing.
 
2006-07-02 12:48:35 PM  
"I don't see any quote with the word "schools" anywhere in that article."

I'm guessing that schools must be on the short list of things which have not yet been attacked by Hamas.

Attacked-
X Buses
X Markets
X Nightclubs
X Checkpoints
X Temples

Not Attacked-
_ Schools
_ Kitten Orphanages
 
2006-07-02 12:51:47 PM  
BooBoo23: I can believe that- missile strikes and assassination threats have a way of doing that, I would guess. Just seems like a sad, sad struggle- the Palestinians are now without power, water, and all roads are closed to shipements of medical goods, and I would imagine they're desparate. That they would openly state that they'd target schools, though, is pretty much suicide.

I think it's like Iran. They want Israel to attack. They want them to have collateral damages. That's why they keep so many civilians around them and they fire Kassam rockets from backyards of people rather than isolate areas. That whole martyrdom thing, so that the international community will create an outcry and side with them

Either that or they have nothing to lose.

Or both.

(yes, I realize this article is pretty biased)

It is biaised. Hamas wasn't aware of what would happen the same way Arafat was never aware when suicide bombers would hit inside Israel after he renounced violence.

Which means they are in perfect control. It just backfired horribly in their faces
 
2006-07-02 12:56:17 PM  
BooBoo23: Meh. I don't support one side or the other here, but find the suffering on both sides of the fence to be an awfully sad thing.

i agree, both sides have done horrendous things. i think that the fact that palestine doesn't have military strength that comes close to that of the IAF's contributes to the barbarity and heinousness of these terrorists. this is not going to end well.
 
2006-07-02 12:58:12 PM  
Tatsuma: Which means they are in perfect control.

I admit that I have not followed this closely, but it seems that, with differing factions, militant wings of movements, and a bunch of jackasses trying to become martyrs, to say that Arafat or Abbas or whoever is the one with the final say about whether Mohammed goes out to the market strapped with TNT or fires an RPG from a slum somewhere seems a little unrealistic, much like saying that GW Bush was the one that told Lynndie England that it was ok to torture prisoners. Not a perfect analogy, but close.
 
2006-07-02 12:59:27 PM  
Off for the afternoon, Tatsuma- have a good one!
 
2006-07-02 01:01:18 PM  
BooBoo23: I admit that I have not followed this closely, but it seems that, with differing factions, militant wings of movements, and a bunch of jackasses trying to become martyrs, to say that Arafat or Abbas or whoever is the one with the final say about whether Mohammed goes out to the market strapped with TNT or fires an RPG from a slum somewhere seems a little unrealistic, much like saying that GW Bush was the one that told Lynndie England that it was ok to torture prisoners. Not a perfect analogy, but close.

Oh, trust me. Arafat (Abbas not as much, I will gladly admit. Abbas controls his party with a firm hand but doesn't have Arafat's reach) knew everything and authorized everything in the second intifada. There's not a suicide bombing he didn't either greenlight or directly help to plan. When Arafat wanted terrorism to come to a screeching halt, it would stop and there wouldn't be a single attack. When he wanted it to start again, it would. When he only wanted some groups to attack, only them would attack.

Arafat didn't want a country, he wanted Ultimate Control.

It's pretty well documented, especially after raids in his private quarters
 
2006-07-02 01:28:13 PM  
They whole thing will end badly. Of course it will end much worse for the Palestinians.

It's a real shame. Israel never intended to cede Gaza, and Hamas never intended to stop the terror. Both sides have been terribly disingenuous about peace.
 
2006-07-02 01:28:41 PM  
For the record I fully support any government doing whatever it takes to protect its own people. That's what they're there for.
 
2006-07-02 01:31:21 PM  
Unshavenhelga: Israel never intended to cede Gaza

Bullshiat. farking bullshiat.

You think the heartbreaking scenes of the Israeli citizens dragged out of homes that had been theirs for 30 years was just a show? You think that Israel will reenter Gaza again? You think this was just all temporary?

You really need to study the peace process ever since 1947. It's the same waltz

Jews proposes peace. Palis refuse without counteroffering
Jews yet again offer peace. Palis yet again refuse it
Jews yet again offer peace. Palis yet again refuse it
Jews yet again offer peace. Palis yet again refuse it

The Camp David accord gave basically all the palestinians will ever get. More than 95% of the WB and Gaza. Arafat never went there to discuss. The intifada had been planned and nothing would stop them from starting war. They want all of Jerusalem and all of Israel

This will never happen.
 
2006-07-02 01:32:03 PM  
Yea. THAT'LL help. Really works to get the rest of the world to take you seriously. Yep. I REALLY wanna ask Israel to back down and give those asshats a chance.
 
2006-07-02 01:34:20 PM  
Why do they always have to one-up each other? At least wait until after my birthday before you start WWIII so I won't get drafted.
 
2006-07-02 01:35:08 PM  
smooshie: Wow. And we Americans complain about electing idiotic people into office. At least they're not killing schoolkids.


Iraqi schoolchildren must not count then.
 
2006-07-02 01:35:22 PM  
Hmm. Islam again shows that in the face of adversity, it will stop at nothing to further its cause: domination or conversion of the entire world. Islam: Peaceful, for all Moslems.
 
2006-07-02 01:35:47 PM  
Oh, if only Hamas wasn't a puppet organization of Israel.
 
2006-07-02 01:35:59 PM  
altinos: Iraqi schoolchildren must not count then.

I'm against the Iraq War but to say it's official policy of the US government to kill schoolchildren is lunacy.
 
2006-07-02 01:36:10 PM  
www.southscene.net

YEAH RIGHT!

FTFA: In other air strikes overnight, the IAF fired missiles at a school in Gaza City...

From a related article: The Israeli army said it had not targeted the school and had meant to hit a nearby building used by Hamas. There have been few casualties.

"If the Occupation continues aggression and terrorism against our people ... It will drag the region into a sea of blood and the consequences will be terrible. We still have many options," said Abu Ubaida.

Hamas was behind a bombing at Israel's Hebrew University in Jerusalem in July 2002 that killed nine people, including Israelis and foreigners.


I find it woefully amusing that the Jerusalem Post can include a line saying that the IDF shot missiles into a Palestinian school, under a headline saying Hamas is threatening schools.

A little context lesson might make us wonder why in both cases no definition of SCHOOL was given in either case. Did the Israeli's blow up a kindergarten (which Hamas does run throughout the PT)? Did Hamas threaten to attack universities in Israel as they have done before (where compulsory military service for anyone over 18 would make most of the student body also IDF military vets)?

When you have two parties (IDF & Hamas) that have routinely engaged in planned and/or collateral atrocities, you should be very dubious about which dog you back. No, I don't know the answer. I tried to google it. If you can find a good translation, I'd like to see it. Otherwise STFU.

/this thread is ironically racist, and reactionary, and pointless.
 
2006-07-02 01:36:14 PM  
altinos

Nice troll, asshat.

When did we intentionally target schoolchildren?

/Got tinfoil enough left for me?
 
2006-07-02 01:36:52 PM  
altinos

Iraqi schoolchildren must not count then.

Nice troll asshat. Any source on American TARGETED schools in Iraq to purposely kill children???
 
2006-07-02 01:37:02 PM  
so does anyone else feel like this is world war 3
 
2006-07-02 01:37:31 PM  
altinos: Oh, if only Hamas wasn't a puppet organization of Israel.

So, anti-american drivel AND anti-semite one as well?

b-. Lots of people will be baited by this
 
2006-07-02 01:37:49 PM  
Flaming Asshat: Nice troll, asshat.

When did we intentionally target schoolchildren?

/Got tinfoil enough left for me?


An asshat calling me an asshat? That's rich. :)

So when we drop bombs on an Iraqi city, it's okay if schoolchildren die, as long as we didn't intentionally target them? "Oops, I didn't mean to!"
 
2006-07-02 01:38:11 PM  
Tatsuma,

I know that Israel has offered peace, and that the Hamas government refuses again and again. I also know that Israeli soldiers spent the better part of the last two decades taunting, then killing Pali children. Israel knows that they will have the strip again after this affair is over. I recognize that in public Israel has been offering "peace," but along the fences, they did nothing but create generations of bombers. It's a mixed message, at best, and planned at worst.
 
2006-07-02 01:38:22 PM  
tatsuma

We both responded. Ergo we were both baited. Oops. shame on us.

/wipe the troll snot off my back, please?
 
2006-07-02 01:38:41 PM  
And this is different from a usual month in what way exactly ? This time Hamas won't be hiding behind the other terrorist organizations ?

They can end it in the next minute by releasing the soldier, or admitting that he is dead (i'm 99% sure that he is).
 
2006-07-02 01:38:48 PM  
Ah yes...

www.gaijinsmash.com

Another subtle political move in the Middle East.
 
2006-07-02 01:38:55 PM  
Tatsuma: So, anti-american drivel AND anti-semite one as well?

Anti-semite? When did I ever say that I hate Semitic peoples? I simply detest governments.
 
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