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(Pravda)   Hugo "Fidelito" Chavez to visit North Korea and learn the secret of how everybody stays so attractively slim there   (english.pravda.ru ) divider line
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2006-06-26 02:46:43 PM  
I'll chime in on the headline:
Freaking funny, farking fine
Chavez full of fury, anger
Huff and puff you ol' haranguer
 
2006-06-26 02:53:19 PM  
How do they stay so attractively slim?

Did you know that there are very few birds in North Korea? Do you know why?

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Leave "Lupe, the Communist bird" back in Venezuela.
 
2006-06-26 02:55:20 PM  
The AK-103 is a helluva rifle, but it really pales to a JDAM launched from a Predator at 20k feet, flown by a tiny little West Virginian sweetheart in Nevada.

Enjoy Korea. Don't eat the gimchi. See you when you get back.
 
2006-06-26 03:06:15 PM  
I have a very small penis but my country's nuclear supremacy is some consolation.
 
2006-06-26 03:08:04 PM  
Actually Chavez is not the Communist fark the media paints him as, his concerns are actually for the 80% of people in Venezuela who live in poverty even though the country is the 4th largest oil producer in the world.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144

theres a true story you media didn't tell you

so get edumacated.
 
2006-06-26 03:13:43 PM  
Oh, except he's always a tyrannical communist de facto dictator and actively seeks to thwart American efforts anywhere for the sake of thwarting America.
 
2006-06-26 03:21:57 PM  
Actually Chavez is not the Communist fark the media paints him as,

no, he's just a crazy ass bolivarian socialist fark with regional power delusions, too much oil money, and a twisted admiration of Fidel that anybody with a brain can clearly see without the "media" painting him as anything he ain't.
 
2006-06-26 03:27:22 PM  
Maybe Kimmy will give him some pointers on really cool eyeware.

Hugo needs some shades.

It could elevate him to the levels of Elvis, Bono and Carol Channing.

www.cnn.com
 
2006-06-26 03:29:27 PM  
JamisonJamieJames: Actually Chavez is not the Communist fark the media paints him as

"Dos Santos' son accused Chavez of virtually ignoring crime while also inciting the poor: "The president is always saying it's OK to steal in order to eat."

Chavez has not used those exact words, but he regularly launches into tirades against wealthy Venezuelans. "The rich are condemned to hell. Christ himself condemned them," Chavez said in a speech Tuesday. "I say it from the heart: to be rich is evil."

Class tension has long been a part of life in the South American country, where armed robberies, carjackings and kidnappings are frequent.

There were 9,402 homicides reported in 2005, down slightly from 2004, according to government statistics. Some experts argue the real figure is higher."


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20060421-0013-venezuela-unche​ckedviol ence.html

.... sounds like a good communist "From each according to his means, to each according to his need" Marxist kinda guy.
 
2006-06-26 03:33:17 PM  
the_gospel_of_thomas: "The rich are condemned to hell. Christ himself condemned them," Chavez said in a speech Tuesday

Wow, he can twist the bible like the best conservative talking head, you guys should recruit him.
 
2006-06-26 03:34:43 PM  
JamisonJamieJames

Thanks to Chavez's leadership, Venezuala had to sign a deal to import 2 billion dollars worth of oil from Russia to avoid defaulting on its contracts.

http://mosnews.com/money/2006/04/28/venezuelaoil.shtml

And if he continues with that mismanagement, and raising oil company income taxes, eventually his oil profits will dry up and there won't be anything left to feed the poor in his country.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=aYC4fYP_RQYc&ref​er=home
 
2006-06-26 03:36:47 PM  
Smear bots ACTIVATE!
 
2006-06-26 03:38:23 PM  
ten_of_spades: We all know how much the American right hates to see democratically leaders financially mismanaging their nations.

LOL.

Consider the source, folks. Consider. The. Source.

/this message not brought to you by the CIA
//the others? heh.
 
2006-06-26 03:39:07 PM  
Headso: Wow, he can twist the bible like the best conservative talking head, you guys should recruit him.

Nah, he's 100 Percent All - yours.
 
2006-06-26 03:41:45 PM  
He is also driving foriegn investors and the possibility a Chavezist may possibly win in mexico is spooking foriegn investors there to
 
2006-06-26 03:42:48 PM  
karasoth: Yup. He's got the multinationals running scared.

Good for him.
 
2006-06-26 03:43:18 PM  
In honor of the World Cup, I believe the headline should be changed to Fidelinho.
 
2006-06-26 03:46:00 PM  
Smear bots ACTIVATE

big fan of socialist windbags who crack down on dissent and freedom of speech, are we?
 
2006-06-26 03:49:15 PM  
he's a prince of a ruler:

June 14 (Bloomberg) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said he may shut down television stations for criticizing the government and broadcasting ``messages of hate.''

Chavez said the government has begun to review all television concessions, which expire in 2007. Chavez did not specify which stations may be shut down.

``We can't keep giving concessions to a group of people who use television stations against us,'' Chavez said in a televised speech in Caracas. ``Every day they broadcast messages of hate, of disrespect toward institutions, of doubt among us, rumors, psychological war to divide the nation.''
 
2006-06-26 03:51:55 PM  
Stop it, albo!

You're just smearing him by posting his own words.
 
2006-06-26 03:54:37 PM  
the_gospel_of_thomas: Nah, he's 100 Percent All - yours.

Sorry, as someone who is for smaller government the last thing I want is a socialist, the republicans are kinda a for-the-rich-socialist type party these days, you should reconsider.
 
2006-06-26 03:56:36 PM  
Hey! I think I stumbled across the slogan for 06!

Republicans: "Socialism For The Rich"
 
2006-06-26 04:47:15 PM  
"24 Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! 25 Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 18

Damn long-haired, unshaven commies!
 
2006-06-26 05:04:38 PM  
albo
big fan of socialist windbags who crack down on dissent and freedom of speech, are we?

It's already been posted once in here, but perhaps you missed it. Go check out what a real crackdown on dissent looks like. Chavez is the dissenter.
 
2006-06-26 05:16:03 PM  
Chavez is the dissenter

hah! very funny you are, young jedi.
 
2006-06-26 05:18:35 PM  
albo: Also very correct.
 
2006-06-26 05:20:06 PM  
Also very correct

so he's a "dissenter" who may close down the newspapers?
 
2006-06-26 05:23:14 PM  
egge
Gotcha!!

Lockeed Spirit B-2 stealth bomber
1 B61-7 300 Kiloton warhead
delayed airburst 1500ft.
 
2006-06-26 05:27:21 PM  
albo
so he's a "dissenter" who may close down the newspapers?

The ones that incite violence against the legitimate government of Venezuela? Yes. Same as we did and continue to do in Iraq. Again, go watch the video to see what much of the "private media" in Venezuela amounts to, which is to say, essentially, Exxon and the CIA.
 
2006-06-26 05:30:02 PM  
rumplestilskin: If killing Chavez wouldn't sanctify him in the eyes of most every South American, I have no doubt it would already have been done. Unfortunately for the "spreading freedom -- as long as its our kind of freedom" types, you can kill Chavez but not the 70%+ of Venezuelans who love the guy.
 
2006-06-26 05:31:48 PM  
The ones that incite violence against the legitimate government of Venezuela? Yes

it serves only a tyrant to shut down the opposing media. which is what he is or aspires to be.

why's he spending money on AKs if his people are still poor and he is all about helping them? why is he spending time and money traveling to north korea when his people are so poor? why is he confiscating private land? why is he letting the country become one of the worst places for crime, which was described in media reports recently as "out of control." how does that help his people.
 
2006-06-26 05:33:53 PM  
you can kill Chavez but not the 70%+ of Venezuelans who love the guy.

saddam always got 100 percent of the vote and he was a dictator
arafat was loved and he was a murderous kleptocrat
fidel is adored but has bankrupted his people and jailed dissidents

what's your point
 
2006-06-26 05:37:27 PM  
albo
it serves only a tyrant to shut down the opposing media.

So then you're willing to call Paul Bremmer a tyrant?

why's he spending money on AKs if his people are still poor and he is all about helping them?

Because the US government is all about threatening and attacking his government in any way possible. The coup, the CIA sponsored referendum, and the constant media mudslinging are proof enough of that. I'd say he's pretty concerned that our next step is sponsoring some heavy-duty border fighting.

why is he spending time and money traveling to north korea when his people are so poor?

He's the President, what do you want him to do, go plow a field? I think your deliciously phony expectations say all that's needed to be said about your bias.

saddam always got 100 percent of the vote and he was a dictator

Did the UN officiate Saddam's elections and call them a model of fairness? Was an ex US president on hand to agree with that assessment?

Again, your intellectual dishonesty speaks volumes about your true motives.
 
2006-06-26 05:43:54 PM  
Again, your intellectual dishonesty speaks volumes about your true motives

intellectual dishonesty? criticizing an unhinged socialist power monger is dishonest? why, because i don't refer to all the evil done by the US and Bu$h at the same time, that i'm not being properly balanced? that's a ridiculous and infantile approach to debate.

chavez is a bad guy. he's a populist demagogue. he aspires to regional power. he squanders his country's oil money. he jails dissenters. and if you can't see that, it's you who are being, maybe not intellectually dishonest, but certainly naive.
 
2006-06-26 05:50:24 PM  
albo: You failed to answer my question. Wonder why. Let me repeat, this time in bold just in case your eyesight is poor or something:

it serves only a tyrant to shut down the opposing media.

So then you're willing to call Paul Bremmer a tyrant?
 
2006-06-26 05:54:20 PM  
So then you're willing to call Paul Bremmer a tyrant?

sure. so, what has admitting that changed? Hugo Chavez is still a socialist demagogue, a tyrant and a menace to peace in the region.
 
2006-06-26 05:55:04 PM  
albo: So then...if Bremmer is a tyrant, then George Bush approves of tyranny?
 
2006-06-26 05:55:46 PM  
(Work with me here, I'm going somewhere with this. Trust me. Just a simple yes or no will do.)
 
2006-06-26 06:13:07 PM  
Hmph. Must be dinner time for albo or somethin, tee hee! I'll check in later.
 
2006-06-26 07:19:54 PM  
Hey! Who is this Paul Bremmer?

/just yanking your chain, mrexcess, since I know you are a stickler for spelling grammar an awl thowse niceeties.
//yikes it is dinner time...
///peace.
 
2006-06-26 08:24:13 PM  
mrexcess [Total*Fark]
"You can kill Chavez but not the 70%+ Venezuelans
who love the guy."


Let's deduce from simple math from your figure.
Love Chavez - 70%
Tolerate Chavez - 29.9%
Hate Chavez - 00.1%
AK-103 rifles - 100,000 new stock
Chances are at least one of these .1% can and should
let the putrid air out of this crazy chongo (ape).
 
2006-06-27 12:34:41 AM  
Huh. I wonder where albo went. How totally unusual.
 
2006-06-27 01:53:30 AM  
Capitalism and Socialism at opposing ends of an argument? That's unpossible!
 
2006-06-27 02:02:56 AM  
Sanguine Dawn: Chavez is still very much a market-oriented president, he just doesn't think that means selling the nation's oil wealthy to Exxon on the cheap is a very good deal for his people. I'd be hard pressed to find reasons to disagree with him.
 
2006-06-27 03:34:11 AM  
What does believing Chavez is a socialist, de-facto dictator have to do with Bremmer? Or Bush for that matter? Chavez maintains popularity by promising the poor everything they want by maintaining a state of class warfare. He then shuts down any dissenting voices. DOes he actually deliver? See for yourself. What percentage of the Venezuelan population lives in poverty? Chavez has every right to try to do what is best for his people, but at what cost? I'm glad to see you only support the concept of free speech when it only benefits your agenda.
 
2006-06-27 03:46:55 AM  
By that token, you would then agree that FDR was one of the greatest tyrants in American history. Yes?
 
2006-06-27 05:53:52 AM  
AdeptusAstartes
What does believing Chavez is a socialist, de-facto dictator have to do with Bremmer? Or Bush for that matter?

Something tells me albo got it. That's why he didn't come back.

Chavez maintains popularity by promising the poor everything they want by maintaining a state of class warfare.

Class warfare is a reality everywhere, sorry. If you don't think there's class warfare going on in America today, launched by those in control, then you haven't been paying attention to the tax cuts.

He then shuts down any dissenting voices.

Nonsense. Venezuela has tons of private media, a free press is guaranteed by their Constitution. If you'd like some examples of what we've bribed that press to do since Bush took office, watch and be enlightened. In Venezuela, just like everywhere else with a free press, however, if you break the law you pay the penalty.

Does he actually deliver? See for yourself. What percentage of the Venezuelan population lives in poverty?

80%+ lived in poverty before Chavez, and he hasn't been in power very long. Give him time, before he elevates them out of poverty he has to feed, clothe, and educate them. Certainly, progress is being made. The super-wealthy oligarchy of Venezuela are, unfortunately, running like rats from a sinking ship, admittedly.

Chavez has every right to try to do what is best for his people, but at what cost?

When you piss off the powerful, for better or for worse, there's always a cost.

I'm glad to see you only support the concept of free speech when it only benefits your agenda.

Likewise, I'm glad to see you're willing to engage in blatant strawman argumentation whenever it suits your agenda.
 
2006-06-27 08:37:15 AM  
mrexcess: AdeptusAstartes
What does believing Chavez is a socialist, de-facto dictator have to do with Bremmer? Or Bush for that matter?

Something tells me albo got it. That's why he didn't come back.



No, it's becaue your argument is stupid and you just want another opprtunity to blame Bush for something.

I swear, we could set the Greenwich clocks to your predictable stupidty.
 
2006-06-27 09:59:27 AM  
I have no agenda. I don't support what Bush is doing anymore than what Chavez is doing. DO I have to have an agenda to be against Chavez? If anything, your hypocrisy in supporting Chavez' means of remaining in power while criticizing the same ideas with Bush makes me wonder what your agenda is.

80%+ lived in poverty before Chavez, and he hasn't been in power very long. Give him time, before he elevates them out of poverty he has to feed, clothe, and educate them. Certainly, progress is being made. The super-wealthy oligarchy of Venezuela are, unfortunately, running like rats from a sinking ship, admittedly.

WHy is it unfortunate the oligarchy is jumping ship, if they are part of the problem? AS far as giving him time goes; Historically, socialist/communist regimes do not allocate wealth evenly. Why would I assume he would be different? As for strawmen.. please elucidate where i did this.
 
2006-06-27 10:00:50 AM  
Allow me to reiterate:

Capitalism is the act of taking from the poor and giving to the rich.

Socialism is the act of taking from the rich and giving to the poor.

A balanced country is 50% capitalist and 50% socialist.
 
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