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(Boston Herald)   The Massachusetts State Appeals Court is ordering a defiant Marblehead homeowner to tear down his $1.24-million seaside home, because he is not Rob Lowe   (news.bostonherald.com) divider line 53
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2006-06-22 10:49:36 PM  
Wait, who is the dumbass?

The court.....or the guy who was warned about building a house that may affect his neighbors and still went ahead and built it?
 
2006-06-22 10:56:47 PM  
What is the Rob Lowe reference in the headline?

And I agree -- the dumbass seems to be the builder, not the court.
 
2006-06-23 01:16:54 AM  
I love the timely submission references on Fark. Go 11 greenlights down, make a right.
 
2006-06-23 01:23:21 AM  
wow... coulda sworn I knew this....

/bad submitter!
 
2006-06-23 01:23:23 AM  
Oh I get it. You see Fark publishes stories newest on the top. Ha ha haaaaa
 
2006-06-23 01:28:40 AM  
I see... sorry, submitter... you were trying to make a joke!!!


I apologise profusely... and you pwned me!
joke, unfortunately: it's not that funny
 
2006-06-23 01:30:02 AM  
Gals Panic: Oh I get it. You see Fark publishes stories newest on the top. Ha ha haaaaa

I thought the gayyyyest stories were at the top? no?
 
2006-06-23 01:33:30 AM  
It's pretty ugly for what it cost.
 
2006-06-23 01:34:46 AM  
Well, since it was his rich snooty neighbors who caused the problem to begin with and it sounds as though these "building violations" are just trumped up charges brought about on behalf of them, I say he should tear down the beautiful house he has built and in its place build the most God-foresaken, ugly, monstrosity of an eyesore the World has ever seen. The back and inside, which the neighbors can't see, can still be a beautiful, scenic house.
 
2006-06-23 01:36:49 AM  
instant cliche
 
2006-06-23 01:37:27 AM  
^ I am thinking pink and purple ultra gloss paint, crazy angles coming out of everywhere with strange lean-to looking supports. An all windows facing the neighbors, put the big black ugly security bars and put a razor wire fence around the front.

that should about do it.

Hey bud, I hope your reading this. Best wishes.
 
2006-06-23 01:37:40 AM  
This is why I want to build a house where my closest neighbor is at least 300 yards away
 
2006-06-23 01:39:08 AM  
His NEW design after the lawsuit:

www.joe-ks.com

Hey neighbors: This house is up to code. It's just pissing you off because it's better than yours, is on a cooler lot, and is in your way.

SUCK IT.
 
2006-06-23 01:40:06 AM  
I don't understand this article.
Someone please explain to me: Why couldn't he build this house? Didn't the city issue a permit? What's the problem here?

Please type slowly so a lowly southerner can read it....
 
2006-06-23 01:40:31 AM  
Or, he could buy a dog which barks constantly, I mean non-stop. In fact, he should put a kennel on his property. Then, he should purchase a house somewhere else and live there instead.
 
2006-06-23 01:42:52 AM  
Pretty typical waterfront arguments. Someone years ago decides that building 2 ft from the shoreline is probably a bad idea, so eventually some dipshiat builds right in front of them 40 ft tall, thus destroying their view.

Fark him and his McMansion.
 
2006-06-23 01:44:26 AM  
I forgot to mention that the kennel would feature a fake rabbit that ran back and forth in front of all the dog cages periodically throughout the day. It could be silence activated, if there is a moment of silence, here comes the rabbit back and forth in front of the kennels.

He should also purchase a flock of peacocks and perhaps a howler monkey or two.
 
2006-06-23 01:47:15 AM  
kactuspatch: Fark him and his McMansion.

Yeah fark him and his personal liberties and land owner rights. His snooty neighbors' view has a house in it now! WAAAH!

One good thing about Texas, what you do on your own land is just about nobody's business but your own (within reason of course).
 
2006-06-23 02:11:57 AM  
ExJerseyGirl

Rob Lowe was accused of wanting to do the same thing in California, and got away with it.
 
2006-06-23 02:17:57 AM  
Is it just me or is watching rich people get snubbed just farking funny?
 
2006-06-23 02:32:17 AM  
Because he's not Rob Lowe

Do I sense the rise of a new Fark cliche...?
 
2006-06-23 03:05:05 AM  
The Santa Barbara erection involving Rob Lowe wasn't ordered down because it's still in his butt.
 
2006-06-23 03:37:39 AM  
Heh. My hometown...
 
2006-06-23 04:31:45 AM  
The guy should tear down the house, and then open up a nudist camp. Offer free memberships to all his neighbors.
 
2006-06-23 05:31:00 AM  
Wayne Johnson defended by J. Gavin Cockfield.

Am I really the only one who found that mildly amusing?
 
2006-06-23 06:15:09 AM  
I'm glad to see the courts rule as such.
If some asshole tried to block the view from my beachfront house I'd be pissed too.
 
2006-06-23 06:15:14 AM  
I don't understand this article.
Someone please explain to me: Why couldn't he build this house? Didn't the city issue a permit? What's the problem here?

Please type slowly so a lowly southerner can read it....


It's not really understandable because they don't elaborate. Massachusetts has some of the weirdest and most arcane land laws in the country, owing to our long heritage of the screwed up British system.

It sounds screwey but even when you get a local building permit you can't always build. The code official is supposed to have ultimate authority to issue permits in his jurisdiction but the neighbors can always complain and sue.

I looked at property that was ideal for a small 5-house subdivision in Winchester, and equally snooty town. I couldn't get the financing together but as it turns out, the guy who bought it got as far as putting in the road before all the neighbors sued and effectively stalled the project for years. Someone must have been looking out for me that day...
 
2006-06-23 06:28:55 AM  
It appears that it may be a scenic view case. I'd bet the neighbors across the street wanted to see water, not a house. And that they're either lawyers or really rich.

He was warned tho. It's just sad he's gotta pay MA tax for someone else's view.

I'd plant a few Leylands and miracle-gro them suckers to 50' to remove the view permanently.
 
2006-06-23 06:40:34 AM  
The story so nice, they greenlighted it twice...
 
2006-06-23 06:43:31 AM  
sounds like he f'ed up. Laste sentence of the article - sounds like he sold one lot (that may have been grandfathered) and kept one, and figured he could do whatever with the one he still had. Sounds like kind of a dumb ass, taking a chance like that. Either that or GINORMOUS balls and wads of cash.....Probably the latter, as that's par for the course on The Neck... ;)
 
2006-06-23 07:04:58 AM  
The guy tears down a garage and puts up a huge house, thus destroying his neighbors view of a beautiful harbor and reducing the resale value of the neighbors property. If I lived near him, I'd sue to if he was going to cost me $100s of thousands.

These sort of cases are common in MA. There was one near me a few years ago where a family sold their house, then tried to keep the new owners from tearing it down to build a McMansion. They claimed it had historic signifigance; some semi-famous architect had designed it 80 years ago. Something they never told the now owners until the sale was done.
 
2006-06-23 07:21:05 AM  
Typical Marbleheaders. Snobby, greedy, and retarded. Both the homeowners.
 
2006-06-23 07:27:51 AM  
If there's land between their house and the ocean view, it can't really be 'beachfront' now, can it?
 
2006-06-23 07:56:58 AM  
Sudlow

The guy tears down a garage and puts up a huge house, thus destroying his neighbors view of a beautiful harbor and reducing the resale value of the neighbors property. If I lived near him, I'd sue to if he was going to cost me $100s of thousands.

I dont know MA law, but here is my logical view of the situation. Someone buys a property with a nice view. However, there is an empty lot between them and the view. Therefore, they know up front that there is risk to their view. It really isnt the laws job to protect people from risky investments (non-fraud of course). The risk of the loss of $100s of thousands of view value should have been calculated into the initial puchase price. Caveat emptor.
 
2006-06-23 08:27:35 AM  
Sudlow: The guy tears down a garage and puts up a huge house, thus destroying his neighbors view of a beautiful harbor and reducing the resale value of the neighbors property. If I lived near him, I'd sue to if he was going to cost me $100s of thousands.


Hey if you like the view out your windows, BUY IT. Don't sue someone who buys property between you and your precious view you cheap fark.

This is why I live in the country. We own everything as far as the eye can see.
 
2006-06-23 08:33:47 AM  
Tjos Weel

What if there was a restriction running with the land? Further, what if those two lots at one point were owned by the same guy. This guy sells the farther lot from the ocean and burdens the closest land with a provision that says he will not build. Then what if the guy builds.

BTW I do not know the issue in dispute. No idea. Bad writer.
 
2006-06-23 08:38:22 AM  
JudgeReinhold

If there is a deed restriction, then the guy has to follow the rules of his deed. But, without one, the neighbor has no standing, IMHO.
 
2006-06-23 09:03:52 AM  
If there is a deed restriction, then the guy has to follow the rules of his deed. But, without one, the neighbor has no standing, IMHO.

Not all deed restrictions are enforcable...there are many deeds in Texas that restrict sale to certain ethnic groups.

Also the city can always take the land away and give it to some rich person to build a football stadium on.
 
2006-06-23 09:17:45 AM  
horrible article that tells us everything except the REASON they ordered the house torn down. Here you can find it:

http://www2.townonline.com/marblehead/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=522510

His construction of the house violated a local zoning bylaw. The neighbors took him to the zoning board and then to the Land Court, and he was warned that if he continued with construction a final judgment against him would mean he'd have to tear down the house.

Obviously it's not over, he will try to get the Mass. supreme court to review his case. I don't know the details of the zoning law of course, so if he's right I hope he wins and if he's wrong, well, he is a lawyer and he took the risk.

There is no freestanding "right" of neighbors to sue you because your house blocks their view. Obviously he violated some kind of neighborhood restriction or recorded deed restriction.
 
2006-06-23 09:18:31 AM  
My guess is the guy was allowed to build a house on the lot, just not as big as he eventually built it. We have this problem all the time in Maine. We had a guy in my hometown that was told by the code enforecment officer he could only build his house in one spot on the plot of land he owned, becuase of where the septic tank needed to go and the drilled well and etc. Well the jerk (from Mas) didn't listen, went ahead and built the house right on the water (again illegal) and when he called for final inspection the code enforcement officer came out, and told him to tear it downbecause it was illegal, the guy sued and lost. Plus the guy didn't get hsi land surveyd and it ended up that his entire kitchen was on someone else's land. The town made him tear the entire house down and then buy several large trees to plant along the water line because he had cut down so many trees that it was affecting runn-off and the ecology of the lake. The guy sold the lot at a loss and went back to Mass, the f*cker.
 
2006-06-23 09:21:40 AM  
"One good thing about Texas, what you do on your own land is just about nobody's business but your own"

Unless some rich guys want it for a Ranger's stadium to give to young Mr. Bush...
 
2006-06-23 09:39:59 AM  
Cockfield!
 
2006-06-23 09:44:37 AM  
Fark him and his McMansion.

I don't really know what "McMansion" means, but it's really hip and edgy to use that term for anything built after 1985.

So I'm just going to do it.

I'm going to stick both of my thumbs in my ass, too.
 
2006-06-23 09:53:09 AM  
I found the plans, they we in the basement in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'beware of the lepord'
 
2006-06-23 10:18:30 AM  
Firstly - 1.2 million sounds like a crapload of money. Keep in mind that if the same house was built in Alabama it would probably only cost about 300,000. So we're talking about upper middle class people here - not people so wealthy they sleep on giant sacks of money. The other houses in the area, also probably worth a comparable sum, have a right to file suits if the property being built near their lots is going to affect the overall property value. This fellow took the best view in the neighborhood (something that was probably a selling point for all the other houses, which were already there) and filled it with his house. Now the view is gone and its reasonable to say that the surrounding houses have lost property value because of it.

It's the combination of very limited space and astronomical housing costs in MA that cause this type of thing.
 
2006-06-23 10:23:30 AM  
He could always put in a couple hundred of these when he tears the house down...
www.top-greetings.com
 
2006-06-23 10:37:26 AM  
Sultan1798: Firstly - 1.2 million sounds like a crapload of money. Keep in mind that if the same house was built in Alabama it would probably only cost about 300,000.


The cost is due to the location near the shore. Frankly the house is nearly worthless. Good luck selling it right now. Nevertheless, I agree with you. My parents own a nicer house, though they still don't have all the landscaping in. Their place was around $300,000 to build in Fresno, CA, I believe. My dad is a contractor, and they got price breaks on lots of stuff because he had close business associates/friends doing work (not to mention me on weekends) on the place, but he also didn't cut any corners when it came to materials. That was 13 or so years ago.

The same house on the coast would be an easy 7 figures, if only because of the several acres of dirt that comes with the place.
 
2006-06-23 10:39:39 AM  
I don't really know what "McMansion" means, but it's really hip and edgy to use that term for anything built after 1985.

It's being diluted by uses like that. McMansions earlier meant quickly constructed, shoddily architected and engineered, large square-footage homes that were more affordable to the middle class.

Here in the midwest, we're more mainstream about it... to us, McMansions are easily identified; they are large developments of extremely similar mid- to upscale homes erected quickly on previously undeveloped land right down the rod from our 50-100 year old "quaint" homes. These are typically a quick wooden home of 1500-4000 square feet, covered with grey, white or tan vinyl siding. Prices range from 180-375K in the Cleveland burbs. Pretty much any "gated community," "private development," or the like are considered McMansions.
 
2006-06-23 11:23:12 AM  
I was ready to come in here and hate on Rob Lowe, but it turns out that he was the one ruining some imperious cheapskate's view, not the other way around.

Oh well. I'll just have to hate him for his wealth, good looks, and ability to tap teen ass by the pair.
 
2006-06-23 12:29:33 PM  
So how many more people are gonna come to this thread to call it a repeat just because the submitter mentioned Rob Lowe in the headline??

It's not the same farking story, guys. His house was in Mendoncino, California. This is Marblehead, Massachusetts, the rich-biatch suburb of Salem, Lynn and Beverly. And given how many houses are shoehorned into that freakin' town, it doesn't surprise me that he did this. He just picked the spot in front of the Litigious family homestead.
 
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