If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base.

~Dave Barry

By lumping all "right wingers", "conservatives", "left wingers", "liberals", etc. into one category, I am in no way ignorant. Come on! Mass generalizations only make me look intelligent.

Stupid neocon libtards!!

Seriously, some of you need to take a break from Fark.com. I suggest walking outside. Feed your pets. Eat something. Do some Pilates or some shiat. Just get off the damn computer. I swear, it's like some of you live for political flamewar bashing threads. Do something constructive.

TGOT has got to be a paid troll. He's relentless with his absurd talking points.
There is a concerted effort to troll the forums. A group use google groups to discuss, apparently, the reactions to the blatantly trolling comments. I thought this was forbidden, but maybe I interpret things wrong.
[I've seen a confession in the forums]

MichaelMoron

Trolling has stooped to new lows...

/stop posting quotes that do not have anything to do with this discussion.

Remember when blatent trolling, especially with content-less posts, were routinely modded out? Those were the days.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

EricB: the two retarded bushadmin "facts":
1. he was a threat to america
2. he had wmds

you're forgetting the most important one:

3. he tried to kill my daddy

Damn...is there any topic on which neocons don't get utterly and absolutely pwned by anyone with at least two brain cells to rub together?

I'm starting to think that America really is becoming retarded. At least before, when "conservatives" were really conservative, both sides had something to bring to the table. Now, with Bush & Co., it's just one retarded thing after another.

And the guy got re-elected! How the hell did that happen?

The most logical explanation is just that we needed him to stick around to clean up his own Iraq mess, like in a movie where you've captured the bad guy, but you can't kill him right away because he has some information you need to undo the crap he did.

But I think the larger problem is that after 9/11, much of America became retarded. 9/11 was like some kind of stroke America had, where half the brain went dead and now it can't think straight. And THAT'S the biggest damage Al Qaeda did--not the Pentagon, not the Twin Towers, not even the economy, but the retarded fear-bravado combo that ensued thereafter, the kind that says shiat like how some things become necessary "in our post-9/11 world," and crap like that.

Colovion

Some people just don't listen to reason, so you have to resort to other means.


So when do you think Conservatives will start listening to reason?

Sorry to Burst your bubble. But these DEGRADED mustard gas shells, most likely the ones we sold to Saddam during the 80's, ARE NOTHING Resembling those weapons of Mass destruction described by General Powell during the UN Meeting.

Remember the mobile labs? Those development of missiles or nuke warheads that could reach xx target in a matter of x time?


Sorry but weapons that were used during WW2 containing gases that have been developed before my parents were even born hardly classify as weapons of mass destruction. And are nothing that was described by this Bush administration.


If this is considered mass destruction, then those rounds of machine gun bullets strapped to RAMBO's Chest could be classified as weapons of Mass Destruction.


Good attempt. But try again.

rumplestilskin Your sick bastard you. If you were .0000001% as intelligent as Ms. Rice, you would still need to creep up to the status of cretin.

actually my iq is in the genius range, so its probably on par with hers.

.. oh and im not an ugly hag like her.

No matter how much cats fight, there always seem to be plenty of kittens. ~Abraham Lincoln

Like the US doesn't have WMDs and aren't a threat to world peace. Come on, big freaking deal.

Jon_da_Brockman: Your point?


I'd guess that the point was that this bullshiat war ws sold because the illusion that Iraq was actually a threat to us was created.

I don't remember hearing a gotdamned thing from one pro-war farker about "liberating" Iraq, or spreading Freedom® until it was painfully obvious to those of us that think that the WMD/imminent threat stuff was bullshiat.

I'm just guessing.

MichaelMoron: "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working ...."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002


It's like the Bevets-bot, only with politics instead of religion.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

So Republican and Democratic congresspeople and senators are both idiots. What else is new?

This thread needs more Rakim.

EricB: actually my iq is in the genius range, so its probably on par with hers.

.. oh and im not an ugly hag like her.

[nanny nanny boo boo]

poonie: /stop posting quotes that do not have anything to do with this discussion.


Cue Bevets...

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Nurses are angels in comfortable shoes. ~Author Unknown

/what? are we done posting stupid quotes?

MichaelMoron

Congratulations! You have shown that the Democrats are just as spineless as the GOP, and that neither party had the guts to stand-up and publicly question the intelligence.

Big. farking. Deal.

blindpreacher: "I don't read newspapers!"
"We peed on them!"

don't remember hearing a gotdamned thing from one pro-war farker about "liberating" Iraq, or spreading Freedom® until it was painfully obvious to those of us that think that the WMD/imminent threat stuff was bullshiat.


Ahhh, remember the cute transition from imminent to WMD to WMD programs to WMD and related programs... etc...

Hardware: the parts of a computer that can be kicked. ~Jeff Pesis

/guess not

poonie: /stop posting quotes that do not have anything to do with this discussion.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBSSSS!1

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros

I LOVE your handle!

How many guys have their name spelled twice?
I'm in the Boutros Boutros Galley chowing lunch!

I hope you right-wing tools know Cheney, Coulter, etc. go to bed every night laughing at how gullible you are.

Stupidity is one thing, willful stupidity is another.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf

Pelosi must have had a shiet when she got this memo.

jayday: They are there but exactly how much use are they?
eraser8: My point is that I don't think you went far enough. If those shells are useless, they are not weapons.


Thats the problem tho, they didnt say the were useless, only degraded. Additionally it is also possible to reconstitute some of those chemicals(dont know the work involved or how hard it would be, only that it could be done.)

Anyway, FTA....."The purity of the agents inside the munitions depends on many factors, including the manufacturing process, potential additives and environmental storage conditions. While agents degrade over time, chemical warfare agents remain hazardous and potentially lethal,

I guess the point they were making is that they arent "As Lethal." The way this article is written tho makes it seem to me these things may have been found in a dump or disposal area.....Again going back to the yes there are WMD, but they arent in any condition to be used hypothesis.

At every party there are two kinds of people - those who want to go home and those who don't. The trouble is, they are usually married to each other. ~Ann Landers

Obscure

Dammit, you said his name...

/I on purposely didn't say that name...

stebain: [I've seen a confession in the forums]

Interesting. I don't s'pose you have a link?

MichaelMoron: "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


Does Mr. Gore go on to advocate a full-scale invasion of Iraq?

Does he suggest that an "imminent threat" exists that would necessitate an immediate act of war on our part?

I didn't think so.

You sir, have no point.

SAvoodoo: No matter how much cats fight, there always seem to be plenty of kittens. ~Abraham Lincoln


Love is like a cigar. You can relight it, but it's never the same. ~Richard M. Nixon

MichaelMoron

Now do Dennis Kucinich!

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

Again going back to the yes there are WMD, but they arent in any condition to be used hypothesis.


They could stand them up and decorate them with palm fronds. Then, when you walk by, they could tip them on you!

You know you live in Phoenix when you are willing to park 3 blocks away because you actually found shade from a palm tree imported 300 miles from California and nurtured with water piped 250 miles from Nevada. ~Author Unknown

superdolfan1

Psst...it's spelled m-o-r-o-n, moron.

Heh. And suddenly the crap superdol spews in this thread is givin a proper context.

All cats are grey in the dark. ~Ben Franklin

SAvoodoo: I think you've done it. You've taken all the heat out of this thread.

/my fingers hurt.

My marshmello's aren't melted yet, needs more flames.

Que the "Saddam was an evil mastermind building up an army for world domination" folks. And the counter of "There were no weapons, I've been lied to, let's just curl up into a ball and ignore everyone" statements.

Now my smores should only take a minute.

Interesting. I don't s'pose you have a link?
gmail me.

poonie: Dammit, you said his name...

/I on purposely didn't say that name...

He won't show up unless it has to do with evolution. But now that I said evolution, maybe he will.

/Darwin
//Flying Spaghetti Monster

///Wait and see

corn-bread: You're right on one count: the 45 minute thing.
However the idea that Iraq was sold to the US as an immediate danger is well documented:

"This is about imminent threat."
• White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 2/10/03


Well if you go on further into his briefing, he was talking about Iraq's imminent threat to his neighbor nations and not the US.

The only thing close would be Rumsfeld's statement, and that isn't all that condemning.