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(gawker)   Measles outbreak reported in Christian Science church in Boston. Since Christian Scientists don't believe in vaccinations, this theoretically could bring the entire production of the Christian Science Monitor to a standstill   (gawker.com) divider line 123
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2006-06-20 03:15:20 PM
All these wacky xtian flavours deserve the same treatment when it comes to disease...

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2006-06-20 03:42:59 PM
If ever there was an appropriate thread for the Ha-Ha Guy...
 
2006-06-20 04:02:23 PM
i23.photobucket.com
 
2006-06-20 04:42:43 PM
A measles outbreak is funny?

I guess I don't have my "laugh at the misfortune of others" hat on today.
 
2006-06-20 04:44:35 PM
rose8199

A measles outbreak is funny?

I guess I don't have my "laugh at the misfortune of others" hat on today.


It is when an outbreak is pretty much preventable.
 
2006-06-20 05:06:55 PM
The Onanist

Spot on, chap.

Call it a test of faith, kiddos.
 
2006-06-20 06:59:13 PM
When did Gawker become a religious news service? Go back to telling me where Tom Cruise is having a frappuccino.
 
2006-06-20 07:00:15 PM
Is "Christian Science" an oxymoron? Seriously, what exactly is Christian Science?
 
2006-06-20 07:00:29 PM
Christian Science...

Let the oxymoron jokes begin!
 
2006-06-20 07:00:59 PM
"We believe the measles threat is not true!... Yet we have it anyway... hmmmmm, how does that work exactly?"
 
2006-06-20 07:01:02 PM
Gotta wonder: do Christian Science churches have a first aid kit in their office?
 
2006-06-20 07:01:04 PM
Good, maybe it will kill off some of these religious wackos.
 
2006-06-20 07:01:52 PM
If only they worshiped vaccines.
 
2006-06-20 07:01:59 PM
Sounds like some of the CSM staffers are begrudgingly getting vaccines.

Pretty interesting story. I think it would be a tremendous test of your faith to not go and get a simple shot in this situation. I'll have to watch and see what happens with this one...
 
2006-06-20 07:02:04 PM
rose8199: I guess I don't have my "laugh at the misfortune of others" hat on today.

I'm not even allowed to post if I don't have that hat on. Must be a TF privilege.

And, for the record, the Christian Science Monitor is a pretty sturdy and respectable news source.
 
2006-06-20 07:02:34 PM
Sounds like the staff was just playing a fun little game of "ooky mouth."
 
2006-06-20 07:03:18 PM
Christian Science: First take Gnosticism, add one woman who believes she is Jesus, then add a prohibition against modern medical care, and voila. Serve with a pineapple slice and a good white dessert wine.
 
TWX
2006-06-20 07:03:37 PM
2FastM3:

To my knowledge (which admittedly could be wrong) it's a Christian religion which believes that medical procedures aren't right, as God is supposed to take care of matters that we would normally apply to surgery or vaccination or the like, requiring faith in God. I believe that herbal remedies are allowed, but I'm not really that certain even.

They're based in Boston, Mass. You get a nice view of their main facility from the Prudential Building observation deck.
 
2006-06-20 07:04:16 PM
I never understood why it's called Christian Science, when they seem to shun science [certainly in terms of medical advances.]

Also: are they the same as Church of Jesus Christ, Scientist? I never see both names in the same place.
 
2006-06-20 07:04:37 PM
One thing I've never understood is how Christian Scientists can be, well, kind of wacko, but the Christian Science Monitor is without a doubt one of the best periodicals in the US.
 
2006-06-20 07:04:48 PM
Pray in one hand and crap in the other ... see which hand fills up first.
 
2006-06-20 07:04:55 PM
I think someone pissed in Gawkers cornflakes who works for CSM. Considering CSM is probably the largest independent paper in the USA and mostly secular.
 
2006-06-20 07:05:28 PM
"Christian Science: First take Gnosticism, add one woman who believes she is Jesus, then add a prohibition against modern medical care, and voila. Serve with a pineapple slice and a good white dessert wine."

Don't forget that big-ass globe they got in Boston.
 
2006-06-20 07:05:29 PM
from TFA "In order to prevent a journalistic catastrophe, CSM staffers have very grudgingly started to get immunizations, even though they believe that the measles threat is "not true." "

You see. If you believe in something not being true hard enough, well then it becomes "not true". Says that in the bible somewhere. Maybe.

/Excuse me. I have Darwin on my other line.
 
2006-06-20 07:06:18 PM
Where is your god now?
 
TWX
2006-06-20 07:06:26 PM
chechal:

They have to be rock-solid in their news reporting if they're to be believed, as we can easily corroborate mainstream news stories with other sources. If they don't adhere to this level then they look like all of the other Christian "news" groups that are nothing but evangelical groups and are seen as such and ignored.

Cthulus_Toaster:

At least it's not Kool-aid...
 
2006-06-20 07:07:13 PM
Why use the word "science" if you oppose its application?

Let's return to the middle ages, where the average life span was 35 . . .
 
TWX
2006-06-20 07:09:33 PM
Manfred Richthofen:

I think that it's because it's God's work, and that it's to be left to Him, but again, I could be incorrect.
 
2006-06-20 07:10:01 PM
Mr Gone

from TFA "In order to prevent a journalistic catastrophe, CSM staffers have very grudgingly started to get immunizations, even though they believe that the measles threat is "not true."


So why are they getting the immunizations?

I generally don't take precautions against things I don't believe to be true.
 
2006-06-20 07:10:10 PM
Church of Christ, Particle Physicist.
 
2006-06-20 07:11:07 PM
rose8199: A measles outbreak is funny?

I guess I don't have my "laugh at the misfortune of others" hat on today.


Then put it the fark back on.
 
2006-06-20 07:13:39 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/aboutus/about_the_monitor.html

"Is the paper a religious periodical?

No, it's a real newspaper published by a church - The First Church of Christ, Scientist in Boston, Mass., USA. Everything in the Monitor is international and US news and features, except for one religious article that has appeared each day in The Home Forum section since 1908, at the request of the paper's founder, Mary Baker Eddy."
 
2006-06-20 07:14:23 PM
2006-06-20 07:00:15 PM 2FastM3
Is "Christian Science" an oxymoron? Seriously, what exactly is Christian Science?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Christ,_Scientist
 
2006-06-20 07:14:53 PM
Dear Christian Science Monitor,

Your god will save you. Seriously, it will. Keep on fighting the good fight. You will be saved.

Your Friend
 
2006-06-20 07:15:51 PM
TWX
2FastM3:

To my knowledge (which admittedly could be wrong) it's a Christian religion which believes that medical procedures aren't right, as God is supposed to take care of matters that we would normally apply to surgery or vaccination or the like, requiring faith in God. I believe that herbal remedies are allowed, but I'm not really that certain even.


If my memory serves, it's more in depth than that. They believe that life as we see it around us is an illusion, and thus, diseases are all in the mind. If this is the case, then it follows that one can overcome any ailment of the illusion through prayer and will alone. To get treatment for it is the same as acknolwedging that the illusion (of life) is real, and not just a reflection of some internal malady of the soul. Or something along those lines. It's some crazy stuff, but at least they keep to themselves with their craziness.
 
SMX
2006-06-20 07:16:59 PM
There was a measles outbreak in the Hancock Tower in Boston two-three weeks ago. I can only assume it was a Christian Scientists who brought it there!
 
nm
2006-06-20 07:17:03 PM
In order to prevent a journalistic catastrophe, CSM staffers have very grudgingly started to get immunizations, even though they believe that the measles threat is "not true."
Uhm, yeah, I'll bet most of the CSM staff are not Christian Scientists.
The CSM is owned, but not controlled at a journalistic level by the church. Its big problem is the name (and the fact that its non-sensationalistic news doesn't sell papers)
 
2006-06-20 07:17:12 PM
I guess I don't have my "laugh at the misfortune of others" hat on today.

Not getting vaccinated against the measles isn't "misfortune" or "bad luck;" it is a deliberate choice.

If someone says "I'm going to jump off a bridge. Oh, I fell; how unfortunate," I reserve the right to make fun of them.
 
nm
2006-06-20 07:19:10 PM
It's some crazy stuff, but at least they keep to themselves with their craziness.
And this is why I sort of respect them, no CS person is telling doctors they can't research to cure alzheimer's. They just don't want to take the cure.
 
2006-06-20 07:19:35 PM
My sister has a Christian Scientist for a roommate in college, and damn was she annoying. Wouldn't take cough or cold medicine so she'd keep everyone up all night snoring sneezing and coughing. And apon finding out that someone was goign to the dentist she compared that to taking your dog to a vet and laid the ridicule on.

/biatch
 
TWX
2006-06-20 07:20:25 PM
It's Alright Ma:

Ah. So, basically reality is an illusion...

Riiiiiiight...

I'll gladly take my MMR vaccine, thanks...

It's astounding
Time is fleeting
Madness takes its toll
But listen closely
Not for very much longer
I've got to keep control
I remember doing the timewarp
Drinking those moments when
The blackness would hit me
And the void would be calling
Let's do the Timewarp again!!
 
2006-06-20 07:22:46 PM
nm: They just don't want to take the cure.


And what do they do when their kids get sick?
 
2006-06-20 07:24:56 PM
suck it, non-believers. We don't believe in vaccinations, because, guess what? we don't get sick... that one person who got sick obviously has some flawed thinking.

Oh, you don't believe me? I invite you to check my absentee records from elementary school, on up thru college, thru the last 5 years at my job... pretty much, not a day missed to sickness.

(hey, just because we don't get sick, doesn't mean we're not jerks!)
 
2006-06-20 07:25:02 PM
You don't believe in vaccinations?

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2006-06-20 07:26:37 PM
TWX

It's Alright Ma:

Ah. So, basically reality is an illusion...

Riiiiiiight...

I'll gladly take my MMR vaccine, thanks...


Sure, it's easy to ridicule. But how often does your mind trick you into thinking that something that is very obviously fake is reality? (The answer being every time you go to sleep and dream.)

I may not agree with them in any stretch of the imagination, but, as far as people with weird beliefs go, they're pretty harmless. (Except when it comes to raising children, then it can be problematic.)
 
2006-06-20 07:27:15 PM
T.Rex

You've got to be kidding me.

/props to the Christian Science Monitor, though.
 
2006-06-20 07:29:59 PM
It's Alright Ma

They're harmless as long as they're in the minority. But while a few people can get away with not taking vaccines, if a good number of people stop because "everyone else is", well, the purpose of vaccines are kinda defeated.

That's why the autism/vaccine link fanatics bother me - they're harmless until they convince enough parents to forego vaccines to the point where outbreaks can occur.
 
2006-06-20 07:36:31 PM
StreetlightInTheGhetto, ... i think you're exactly the opposite of correct.

Its the people who get the vaccines which screws it up for the people who don't. You are essentially training your body to need aid to fight the virus, rather than having it fight on its own... Scientist believe vaccines are becoming more and more useless, because it allows the virus to figure out a way to mutate and keep going...

i swear to God i've never had a flu vaccine in my life, and i've probably had the flu once, and the symptoms were less than what the vaccine induces.
 
2006-06-20 07:42:05 PM
Time for Measel Vaccination Brownies!
 
2006-06-20 07:42:15 PM
In all fairness, the outbreak actually started at Fidelity's offices in the Hancock tower. Only later did it show up at the Mother Church. Subsequent cases have been reported by other employees in the Hancock tower. These complexes are 2-3 blocks apart and almost completely connected by an enclosed shopping mall. the rear entrance of the mall dumps right out across the street from the Reflecting Pool plaza. The fact that the CSC folks shun vaccinations hasn't even really made the legitimate mainstream media. Around here, only UPN and Fox have mentioned it.

/local
 
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