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2006-06-18 10:42:06 AM
Saudi beheadings are carried out with a sword in public to serve as a deterrent. The kingdom beheaded 83 people in 2005 and 35 people in 2004.

Some deterrent.
 
2006-06-18 10:58:57 AM
Sounds like Texas.
 
2006-06-18 11:05:58 AM
Texas has 11 for 2006.
 
2006-06-18 11:30:25 AM
Are they queuing them up or something? 2 people in six months compared to 83 people in 12 months the year before is quite a difference. I guess the death penalty really is a deterrent.
 
2006-06-18 12:48:40 PM
nickyhopkins
Some deterrent.

You're not being very rational about this. Strictly speaking it's an excellent deterrent.

You never see the same person on the chopping block twice, do you?

/Q.E.D.
 
2006-06-18 01:25:04 PM
Only 2? That's not much.
 
2006-06-18 01:31:11 PM
Wow. We should be up in the 40s at this point.

Fark used to keep the counter on the sidebar, back in the day.
 
2006-06-18 01:31:42 PM
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Texas has 11 for 2006.

I was coming in to say the same thing. It's been a slow year for Texas.
 
2006-06-18 01:33:18 PM
Low year
 
2006-06-18 01:33:55 PM
For all of you who fell asleep in comaprative Law; executions in Saudia Arabia are extremely rare as it is the family of the victim who has the final say as t whether they are carried out. Most often they accept a "murder-price" from the perp's family and officially spare his life instead. And before anyone starts any Snarky comments about isalm, that was the exact same system that existed in most western countries in the middle ages, it was called Were-geld here
 
2006-06-18 01:36:28 PM
Which head do they chop off for rape?
 
2006-06-18 01:39:08 PM
Only 22 so far in the US this year. We hit 98 in '99.
 
2006-06-18 01:39:25 PM
There can be only one.
 
2006-06-18 01:39:47 PM
So, what they're saying is that we should extradite treoublesomes to SA?
 
2006-06-18 01:40:31 PM
From the headline, I thought someone had scored another goal in the World Cup.
 
2006-06-18 01:40:41 PM
wow, I like the way Saudi runs its kingdom. If we had it over here in the states, with the exception of NV and TX, maybe some of our repeat offenders would realize that the law is for everyone, not just those of us who choose not be criminals. Long live public beheadings, and hopefully, the deterrent, The kingdom beheaded 83 people in 2005 and 35 people in 2004 will behead something like 160 this year, but they need to start their engines, 2006 is half over.

Invinvible we ride, never shall we die....
Doomed
 
2006-06-18 01:40:48 PM
HASSAN CHOP!!
 
2006-06-18 01:41:05 PM
drug trafficking? how does the koran talk about this? there's not a group of drugs that have been historically "bad" and I'm pretty sure they allow non fun drugs. anyone have any passages they can throw at me?
 
2006-06-18 01:41:34 PM
Capital punishment doesn't deter crime.

Just look at any state in the U.S. which uses capital punishment. Crime rates are not affected because those most likely to commit violent crimes.

U.S. prisons are full of people whose brain wiring precludes 'thinking of the consequences.' They act on impulse or with callous disregard for what might happen, even if they know the act is wrong. Thus, a possible death penalty or long stretch in prison has zero impact on the decision to commit a crime.
 
2006-06-18 01:41:54 PM
2 too many.
 
2006-06-18 01:41:54 PM
'Sherif Ali.
So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe...
...so long will they be a little people...
...a silly people. Greedy, barbarous and cruel, as you are.'
 
2006-06-18 01:42:16 PM
ga362: Which head do they chop off for rape?

Nice zinger!

Doomed
 
2006-06-18 01:42:41 PM
Magorn: And before anyone starts any Snarky comments about isalm, that was the exact same system that existed in most western countries in the middle ages, it was called Were-geld here


So your point is that Western countries in the Middle Ages = Middle East today?
 
2006-06-18 01:43:44 PM
>From the headline, I thought someone had scored another goal in the World Cup.

Close, but not quite;
Soccer = heading
SA = beheading
 
2006-06-18 01:45:08 PM
Hmm, what's Jersey's number...

0, I think. We kill people on death row like once every ten years.
 
2006-06-18 01:47:04 PM
faculty.washington.edu
 
2006-06-18 01:47:28 PM
show me you stole the bonds joke first, but Istill get ;

"Saudi Arabia does not juice."
 
2006-06-18 01:48:00 PM
Hang man...hang man....hold it a little while. I think I see my brother coming...riding many a mile..
 
2006-06-18 01:49:27 PM
anyone thinking/saying "good job!" or "now that's a deterrent!": go look at the statistics.

capital punishment doesn't deter violent crime.
 
2006-06-18 01:49:28 PM
I guess a quickly administered death penalty does work... 40+ this time last year.. this year: 2.
 
2006-06-18 01:50:13 PM
Saudi Arabia: 1
Murderer: OWNED
 
2006-06-18 01:51:01 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: 37?!

In a row?
 
2006-06-18 01:53:42 PM
Our partners in the 'War Agianst Terror'.
 
2006-06-18 01:54:01 PM
Sounds like a pretty humane way to discard of the trash to me. Bravo Arabians!
 
2006-06-18 01:54:51 PM
Maybe we should implement the public beheading thing into the american system... might stop some crime...

It sure would cost less than the electric chair :-)
 
2006-06-18 01:55:18 PM
Hassan Chop!
www.bung.org
 
2006-06-18 01:56:03 PM
HickPrincess
U.S. prisons are full of people whose brain wiring precludes 'thinking of the consequences.' They act on impulse or with callous disregard for what might happen, even if they know the act is wrong. Thus, a possible death penalty or long stretch in prison has zero impact on the decision to commit a crime.

You sure you want to follow this line of reasoning? Because it ends with advocating the excution of criminals' families in order to weed out the "criminal element" from the gene pool.
 
2006-06-18 01:59:08 PM
The death penalty does deter crime. My fear of the chair is the only thing that keeps me from climbing a clock tower with a deer rifle.

/So there. Disprove that.
//neener
 
2006-06-18 02:00:32 PM

HickPrincess-

So instead you propose what? If we remove almost all appeals and death becomes more painful it would help, but I'm tired of reading 'capital punishment doesn't work' with no other solution.

What else have you got that works so well and we just refuse to use??

 
2006-06-18 02:00:33 PM
I thought the heading was the total number of Americans actually watching the World Cup.
 
2006-06-18 02:00:57 PM
HickPrincess:Capital punishment doesn't deter crime.

Just look at any state in the U.S. which uses capital punishment. Crime rates are not affected because those most likely to commit violent crimes.


Capital punishment doesn't deter crime here because of how it's implemented. Our capital punishment system is a joke. If we used it like the Saudis, I'd wager there would be a difference.
 
2006-06-18 02:01:36 PM
Mouser
You sure you want to follow this line of reasoning? Because it ends with advocating the excution of criminals' families in order to weed out the "criminal element" from the gene pool.

Ummm...actually it ends with the State getting out of the execution biz alltogether.
 
2006-06-18 02:05:04 PM
Please make your points without namecalling please.
 
2006-06-18 02:06:14 PM
And espressoman comes through with the assist!

And the thread goes wild!
 
2006-06-18 02:06:50 PM
I oppose the death penalty, but I think that if we have one, we have no right to condemn the Saudis for their choice of methods (we should be criticizing them for so many other things). If done quickly, beheading is probably a lot less painful than electrocution or hanging, two methods that were widespread in the U.S. until very recently. I think many Americans are more concerned with how messy the execution looks than how much the convicted person suffers. It's like, if we see blood, we might have to come face to face with the fact that we are actually killing someone, and we don't want that, do we?
 
2006-06-18 02:07:03 PM
One possible reason that the death penalty does not deter crime as much as it should is that those who receive the penalty know that they will not be executed for at least 15 years, which is about how long it takes for the appeals process to run its course.

I say speed up the process to 18 months or fewer, put the executions on pay-per-view, and give the money to the family of the victim. If the victim has no family, give the money to the Cancer Society or American Lung Association or the charity of your choice.
 
2006-06-18 02:07:55 PM
Thaarp!!
 
2006-06-18 02:09:29 PM
I have never looked at the death penalty as a deterent, though the executed don't kill again. I have always viewed it as a punishment, and a measure of vengeance by society. Society has deemed it cathartic to eliminate scum who rape and murder seven year olds. I'm ok with that.
 
2006-06-18 02:09:58 PM
Duncan McCloud wanted for questioning.
 
2006-06-18 02:11:56 PM
Back in the 80's my father saw a public excecution in SA for illegally selling alcohol.

/No desire to go there
//Probably spendin a month in Riyadh within the year.
 
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