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(Ynet News)   Israel accuses Google of spying on them. Reason? The new Google Earth shows hi-res images of Israel... including their sensitive military installations   (ynetnews.com ) divider line
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2006-06-16 08:30:52 AM  
Are they just now realizing that Google is the next world power?
 
2006-06-16 08:42:04 AM  
I voted for Google in 2004
 
2006-06-16 08:42:59 AM  
Well they can't hide their nukes forever.

I guess we can also see all the illegal settlements being built in order to annex as much of the West Bank as possible.
 
2006-06-16 08:43:22 AM  
www.spilya.com
 
2006-06-16 08:44:07 AM  
They are damn right to do that. I can't believe that Google didn't have the foresight to call the foreign ministries of each and every covered by their map to ask "Say, is there anywhere we shouldn't be mapping?"

What do you think will happen if Google is mapping sensitive US military sites? You bet your sweet ass their will be a raid
 
2006-06-16 08:44:28 AM  
jewn'd?
 
2006-06-16 08:44:52 AM  
I think the governments are probably just mad that google found it first...
 
2006-06-16 08:45:24 AM  
moops: I guess we can also see all the illegal settlements being built in order to annex as much of the West Bank as possible.

You mean the convergence point? That's to give AS MUCH land as possible. But don't let facts get in front of your Israel hatred
 
2006-06-16 08:45:29 AM  
In other news, Israel has gone totally retarded. Why don't they take their fight to the people that, you know, own the satellites and take the pictures to begin with? Oh, right, because they don't give a flying fark.
 
2006-06-16 08:45:48 AM  
pwned JOO!
 
2006-06-16 08:46:15 AM  
Oh no. Google has information anyone can access.
 
2006-06-16 08:46:27 AM  
Anybody want to take bets on when the Right Wing blogs start claiming Google is anti-Israel?
 
2006-06-16 08:47:19 AM  
Now I wish I lived near a sensitive military installation, so then I might be able to see my house on Google Earth.

The "FARK GOOGLE" rock arrangement in my backyard might not be helping matters much.
 
2006-06-16 08:47:40 AM  
If something's sensitive, then like don't put it outside.
 
2006-06-16 08:48:06 AM  
I get the feeling that many governments aren't big fans of the information revolution.

/points google earth to Israel
 
2006-06-16 08:48:12 AM  
You can search for "Area 51" on Google Earth and get pretty good resolution of the base.
 
2006-06-16 08:48:33 AM  
LurkinFarker: Why don't they take their fight to the people that, you know, own the satellites and take the pictures to begin with?

Since it's Google, not the other company, that has these infos online.

sigdiamond2000: Anybody want to take bets on when the Right Wing blogs start claiming Google is anti-Israel?

Yeah, that's why they opened a branch in Israel, too
 
2006-06-16 08:48:36 AM  
This is a non issue, I can buy the very same data from commercial firms, actaully I can buy much better quality data then Google has.
/Geographers, the secret rulers of the world
 
2006-06-16 08:48:49 AM  
Tatsuma,

Did you read the article?

"For security reasons and in accordance with an agreement Israeli has with US-based companies that provide satellite imagery, images of Israel with resolution higher than 2 meters per pixel are barred from sale."

The pictures are two meters per pixel. How is this a problem?

"In other words, if up until now Google had treated Israel differently, now it is treated with the same standards Google applies to other countries. However, Google does not feature images of the nuclear facility in the Negev desert. "

Sounds like there are places that they aren't mapping in deference to Israel. What's the complaint?
 
2006-06-16 08:48:57 AM  
In other words, if up until now Google had treated Israel differently, now it is treated with the same standards Google applies to other countries.


Oh noes, Israel isn't being given special treatment anymore!
 
2006-06-16 08:49:03 AM  
Man I hate Google nazis.
uplink.space.com
 
2006-06-16 08:49:07 AM  
pfah! If I can get access to pics of area 51 without someone in a black suit hauling me off to gitmo, then they should just learn to time there illegal activities to coincide with when there aren't any farking spy sat's in their neck of the woods.

/n00bs
 
2006-06-16 08:50:05 AM  
I thought Google was actually run by the jews?
 
2006-06-16 08:50:09 AM  
I live on Long Island. The Long Island Railroad targets are considered potential terrorist targets, so you can not view many of the train stations on google maps. If you view the satellite images, the whole area is viewable, and then you get near the train stations, and can see nothing.
 
2006-06-16 08:50:39 AM  
Who Cares. Dont hate the players hate the game. We can also see everybody elses sensitive areas too.
 
2006-06-16 08:50:42 AM  
Hey, I noticed this kind of thing a few months ago. Within the US and, to a lesser degree, around the world, there are two types of area most likely to be viewable in high resolution.

1) major metropolitan areas and

2) military airbases.

Examples:

-> about 1/2 of Beijing is viewable in hi res
-> ditto Wichita, the hi res coverage of Wichita includes the Boeing plant and the airbase.
-> most of Oklahoma is lo-res, except for Tulsa, OKC and...
Vance Airforce base and the (decommisioned) airbase at Burns Flat (the new "spaceport") and so on.

Try it out, see if you can find similar examples in your area.
 
2006-06-16 08:51:27 AM  
Thats just farking stupid. Damn Israeli's think everything revolves around them.
 
2006-06-16 08:51:31 AM  
www.turkiye.net

TATSUMA!!

/been wanting to post that in an isreal related thread
//waited too long, Tatsuma already posted
//bah.
 
2006-06-16 08:52:27 AM  
*israel.. not isreal. Damnit.
 
2006-06-16 08:52:33 AM  
So we've got more proof that Israel has WMDs, why don't we invade them???

\Oh, right. No oil.
 
2006-06-16 08:52:41 AM  
My homo neighbor tried to use Google maps to prove that I was watering my lawn during the water restrictions. (my lawn was greener than everyone elses lawn) He didn't have a leg to stand on when he found out that my water bills were lower than his. Then two years later, salt was rubbed into his wounds, when he found out that his sprinkler was leaking constantly, thus watering my lawn for me.

I hope your reading this Ned!
 
2006-06-16 08:53:51 AM  
I really am not a fan of Israel. At all. Hell, I loves me some Jew friends, but I cannot stand Israel.
 
2006-06-16 08:53:54 AM  
Ynet news is the only source claiming that this is spying. In fact, they are the only ones carrying the "story".

Google is respecting their agreement with Israel and the US Government.

Tatsuma- I ask again, what is the problem?
 
2006-06-16 08:54:06 AM  
So we've got more proof that Israel has WMDs, why don't we invade them???

\Oh, right. No oil.

\becuase they own Washington (there fixed it for you)
 
2006-06-16 08:54:10 AM  
Ben Daho: My homo neighbor tried to use Google maps to prove that I was watering my lawn during the water restrictions. (my lawn was greener than everyone elses lawn) He didn't have a leg to stand on when he found out that my water bills were lower than his. Then two years later, salt was rubbed into his wounds, when he found out that his sprinkler was leaking constantly, thus watering my lawn for me.

I hope your reading this Ned!



images.usatoday.com
 
2006-06-16 08:54:46 AM  
First they pick a fight with Dilbert, then Israel. What next for Google? Crushing dissent in China? Censoring blogs?

/oh, wait.
//"don't be evil" my butt.
///you sold out, man!
 
2006-06-16 08:54:46 AM  
Jon Snow: Did you read the article?

RTFA? Who are you kidding

I didn't read this particular one but I've been reading on the subject

I still believe that while it's a great system, it is also a potential for security breaches.

For example, Hizbullah in Lebanon could use GoogleEArth to find a quick way toward a power station that they couldn't really approach otherwise and launch an attack on it

Or troops from the southern negev...

I really don't think it's sensible to post informations from military sites to the public (thus, terrorists and other activists), whichever country that is (and yes, including the likes of Iran, etc.. )
 
2006-06-16 08:55:40 AM  
Don't fu(k with the Israelis. They WILL launch a pre-emptive strike. Doesn't matter if you're only a company. You guys have airplanes. That's all they need for justification.
 
2006-06-16 08:57:19 AM  
Jon Snow: Tatsuma- I ask again, what is the problem?

I just don't believe that posting maps of secretive military bases on the internet is such a good thing, really, that's all, it has nothing to do with Israel

You can be sure lots of people threw fits in the US government as well and they are monitoring this VERY closely
 
2006-06-16 08:57:36 AM  
Deicist
*israel.. not isreal. Damnit.

Naw man... keep it isreal.

/bad pun
//:p
 
2006-06-16 08:58:07 AM  
Ohhh, noes!!!! Google has it in for the joooos! Horrors! Stone the crows!
 
2006-06-16 08:58:24 AM  
sigdiamond2000: Anybody want to take bets on when the Right Wing blogs start claiming Google is anti-Israel?

I'll put 4 strawmen on that.
 
2006-06-16 08:58:25 AM  
Time to cry us a river, Tatsuma.

Israel, back in late April, used a Russian rocket to put into orbit a second spy satellite; one with a resolution of 70cm. It takes a set of big brass ones to complain when the very countries you are spying on gain access to 2 meter resolution photos of your country in return.
 
2006-06-16 08:58:31 AM  
Tatsuma: For example, Hizbullah in Lebanon could use GoogleEArth to find a quick way toward a power station that they couldn't really approach otherwise and launch an attack on it

Or troops from the southern negev...



Or they could just use, I dunno, a map?
 
2006-06-16 08:58:35 AM  
The First: Thats just farking stupid. Damn Israeli's think everything revolves around them.

How has that anything to do with the world revolving around them?

If the neighbouring mall installs a security camera and part of it happens to peak in my bedroom, I might get angry and ask for them to remove/change it

Doesn't mean that I think the world revolves around me.
 
2006-06-16 08:58:50 AM  
Invasions of privacy are only good when it is the government doing it...
 
2006-06-16 08:58:53 AM  
Tatsuma

I didn't read this particular one but I've been reading on the subject

I still believe that while it's a great system, it is also a potential for security breaches.

For example, Hizbullah in Lebanon could use GoogleEArth to find a quick way toward a power station that they couldn't really approach otherwise and launch an attack on it

Or troops from the southern negev...

I really don't think it's sensible to post informations from military sites to the public (thus, terrorists and other activists), whichever country that is (and yes, including the likes of Iran, etc.. )


So you're saying that since terrorist could possibly use this technology we should scrap it. Is that whats it come to? Living in fear? Heck, terrorist can also get their hands on nukes, should be disarm all nukes everywhere? What about guns? Can we disban and take apart every guns?

That logic astounds me to no ends.

You would want this to be public knowledge. You don't want a government being so secretive that it starts becoming shady.
 
2006-06-16 09:00:48 AM  
urger: Or they could just use, I dunno, a map?

I haven't seen lots of maps of military basis with clear pictures providing you a good view of what's in the base

MektonZ: Time to cry us a river, Tatsuma.

Time to read my own replies and realize you failed reading comprehension

I have a problem with this information being PUBLIC and I already mentionned that it's for all the countries in the world, not just Israel or the US but China, Iran and Russia as well.

If an army needs satellite imagery of enemy bases, do as you wish, but there's a difference in spying and making it public
 
2006-06-16 09:01:45 AM  
oops?
 
2006-06-16 09:01:58 AM  
I still have yet to find the part where Israel accuses google of spying.
 
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