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(NYPost)   The Red Hot Chili Peppers may face a major lawsuit if Tom Petty decides that the band's single, "Dani California," is as similar to "Mary Jane's Last Dance" as everyone says it is   (nypost.com) divider line 81
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2006-06-01 11:51:48 AM  
cool, just leave Flea out of it.
 
2006-06-01 11:56:47 AM  
Cool video tho.
 
2006-06-01 11:58:16 AM  
Well, I have to take Toms' side on this, but I can also see
how it can be an accident.
Tom has been playing for what seems like forever, which is great, but his music does have a way of working into ones' subconsciousness, and lo and behold! That tune you think you thought up yerself has merely been swimming about in your head for a few years, just waiting for you to pick up a damn guitar and play it.

Either that or Anthony got lazy.Which would be a shame and a letdown.

Tough call.
 
2006-06-01 12:00:19 PM  
It doesnt sound a damn thing like Last Dance With Mary Jane.
 
2006-06-01 12:02:36 PM  
It is similar. It's not the same song.

A lawsuit over this would suck.
 
2006-06-01 12:03:01 PM  
Christopher Cross's Sailing sounds more like Mary Jane than that song does.
 
2006-06-01 12:03:40 PM  
Doesn't it have to be the exact song, note for note?
 
2006-06-01 12:07:16 PM  
They're the same pretty much.. Tom's is just slower.. but even lyrically they're similar.
 
2006-06-01 12:07:18 PM  
Ice ice baby Can't touch this
 
2006-06-01 12:13:30 PM  
DariusMDeV: Christopher Cross's Sailing sounds more like Mary Jane than that song does.

Damn it! I just got that song out of my head!
 
2006-06-01 12:18:37 PM  
meh. listen to the guitar riffs for Dave Matthews "Jimi Thing" and line it up with Doobie Brothers "Listen to the Music". They're just about identical. I don't see Dave gettin sued (probably because the plaintiffs are all busy smokin' doobies), so once again: meh.
 
2006-06-01 12:23:43 PM  
Teh opening does have similarities, but the bridge and chorus are not so much the same. Tom Petty should worry about retiring, smoking a doob or putting out some relevant music for the first time in over ten years

/Tom Petty fan
// Can DIAF if he proceeds with a lawsuit
 
2006-06-01 12:24:42 PM  
George Harrison got sued and lost over "My Sweet Lord" sounding too much like "Be My Baby" and it was a much less litigious time then.

I haven't heard the RHCP song yet (not really an RHCP fan), but I'll have to give it a listen now.
 
2006-06-01 12:27:34 PM  
The Chili Peppers haven't released a good album since Mother's Milk.
 
2006-06-01 12:36:04 PM  
Tom has it all wrong, well half wrong, it sounds like some sort of funky mix between Last Dance and Sweet Home Alabama, think about it...

Anyways music is music and it's original (kind of) but it's hard to be strictly original unless you are going to completely disregard music theory in general. That's what I'm saying.
 
2006-06-01 12:36:10 PM  
See, the bass goes "duh duh duh duh dah duh dah" and the Queen version goes "duh duh duh duh duh duh dah"

They are two distinct songs!
 
2006-06-01 12:37:41 PM  
Weird, had Launch going in the background while reading this board and the RHCP song just came on.
 
2006-06-01 12:39:51 PM  
Those thieving Farks still owe me back rent for lifting my obscure 70s funk-explosion...

What I've got you've got to give it to your mamma.
What I've got you've got to give it to your pappa.
What I've got you've got to give it to your daughter.
I'm insinuting that slip the beef to Enos Slaughter.
Took em years to mop the jizz off my alma mater.

www.myimagebuddy.com

Gabby Hayes, Gabbity Haze, Gibbety Heys NOW!
Gabby Hayes, Gabbity Haze, Gibbety Heys NOW!
Gabby Hayes, Gabbity Haze, Gibbety Heys NOW!

It goes on but I think you get the picture.
 
2006-06-01 12:48:03 PM  
The damn song uses a I-IV-V chord progression, the most common chord progression in the history of rock music. Whoever thinks this is a ripoff is a farking moron.

Also, in that infamous radio clip, the DJ sped up the Petty song to make it match the RHCP track.
 
2006-06-01 12:55:09 PM  
Diabolical Snowman: /Tom Petty fan
// Can DIAF if he proceeds with a lawsuit


Actually, he almost did DIAF once. Scary.

The precedent has been set for this, I think it would favor Petty if he wanted to pursue it, but doesn't sound like he's commented on it yet. But if Ray Parker Jr. had to settle with Huey Lewis for "Ghostbusters" ripping off "I Want a New Drug", then anything can happen.

(The song that George Harrison got in trouble for copying was actually the Chiffon's "He's So Fine")
 
2006-06-01 12:58:58 PM  
Listening to it right now (one of my favorite songs off their new album), and... yeah, I'm totally not hearing it. I'm tone-deaf, but even comparing the lyrics, not seeing enough similarities to be considered actionable.
 
2006-06-01 01:21:32 PM  
Some Bass Playing Guy: "My Sweet Lord" sounding too much like "Be My Baby"


It was "He's So Fine"
 
2006-06-01 01:34:48 PM  
The most entertaining of these sorts of events was when Saul Zaentz sued John Fogerty for writing a song that sounded like one of his earlier songs. In case that wasn't clear ... one of John Fogerty's earlier songs. Jury found for Fogerty in the end, but still: Lesson is, kids, don't give up the rights to your music, no matter how much the suits offer to pay you.
 
2006-06-01 01:43:26 PM  
I think Free Falling and City of Angels sound a LOT alike..
i'm sure i am alone in this, but i have thought that for many many years. Something about those two songs sounds similar
 
2006-06-01 01:57:29 PM  
the Verve yawns.
 
2006-06-01 01:58:30 PM  
Am G D - omfg!!! sue!!!

/got nothin'
//intro similar pattern, no biggie.
 
2006-06-01 01:58:47 PM  
 
2006-06-01 01:59:10 PM  
"Dani California" starts off: "Gettin' born in the state of Mississippi / Poppa was a copper and her momma was a hippie / In Alabama she was swinging hammer," while "Mary Jane's Last Dance" goes: "She grew up in a Indiana town / Had a good-lookin' mama who never was around / But she grew up tall and she grew up right / With them Indiana boys on an Indiana night."

How the fark are those two verses at all similar?
 
2006-06-01 02:03:22 PM  
What does Petty need to worry about? He's set for life after getting $53,000 dollars from that time he slipped in pee-pee at the Costco men's room. He's in constant pain, but he doesn't have to do anything the rest of his life.

/"King of the Hill" nerd
 
2006-06-01 02:05:57 PM  
Ha! The Verve. Boy, they also got screwed over. Great song, though. Yeah, the only similarities I hear between the songs are in the chord progression, which is an extremely basic chord progression, add some 4/4, and you get millions of similar rock songs.

/Don't do it, Petty Pet
 
2006-06-01 02:06:23 PM  
Hadn't really made the connection till I saw this... guess they're sorta kinda similar...

/still confuses Sweet Dreams (Are Made of These)/Sunglasses at Night and ROCK in the USA/What I Like About You till the vocals kick in.
 
2006-06-01 02:07:54 PM  
Some shiatty band named Atreyu ripped off In Flames
but nobody knows either of those bands so who cares
 
2006-06-01 02:13:18 PM  
I can't tell you how many times I've written songs for my band, and then a few weeks in, I realize the melody sounds way too much like a song I know.
 
2006-06-01 02:15:52 PM  
RHCP have sucked for a long time, so this is no suprise.
 
2006-06-01 02:16:56 PM  
This is just more media nonsense. It doesn't sound anything like it - even if you try and make while you're listening. No one should have posted it here, it is just feeding it.
 
2006-06-01 02:20:27 PM  
That chord progression is pretty common one. There are only so many combinations you can go through. It's bound to happen again and again.
 
2006-06-01 02:33:05 PM  
TalkingBaseball

"Dani California" starts off: "Gettin' born in the state of Mississippi / Poppa was a copper and her momma was a hippie / In Alabama she was swinging hammer," while "Mary Jane's Last Dance" goes: "She grew up in a Indiana town / Had a good-lookin' mama who never was around / But she grew up tall and she grew up right / With them Indiana boys on an Indiana night."

How the fark are those two verses at all similar?


They both talk about a girl, where she grew up, and her parents?
 
2006-06-01 02:33:52 PM  
*Metallica Sue Canadian Band over E, F Chords*
 
2006-06-01 02:36:16 PM  
If you play the songs overtop of one another like a DJ did on a local radio station here, they sound really similar.
 
2006-06-01 02:36:37 PM  
Every song I write starts out as "Sweet Jane"

/power chords rule! \m/
 
2006-06-01 02:36:45 PM  
Ghostbusters!
 
2006-06-01 02:45:09 PM  
How many ways can you re-arrange a finite set of notes?
Hollywood syndrome? It's not that people are not creative, but when the number of songs is as huge as it is, the statistical chance of random note arrangement is pretty high.
 
2006-06-01 02:46:42 PM  
fotodevil: They both talk about a girl, where she grew up, and her parents?

well then... SUE AWAY!!!
 
2006-06-01 02:54:45 PM  
The Verve didn't get screwed by anyone but themselves. They asked to use the music. The Stones said 'no'. The Verve used the music anyway. Lesson? Don't fark with Keith Richards.
 
2006-06-01 03:03:10 PM  
I thought the ending guitar solo sounded a bit like it ripped off the intro to "Purple Haze".

/'scuse me while I kiss this guy
 
2006-06-01 03:07:33 PM  
Just about every band in the late 60's/early 70's ripped off Robert Johnson. Too bad he didnt drop offspring.
 
2006-06-01 03:13:01 PM  
Damn..
Every other song I hear sounds like an old blues song. Old Blues singers should be rolling in the $$$.
 
2006-06-01 03:16:24 PM  
The level of similarity required to have a plantiff win this type of suite is so high that only a handful of songs written in the past thirty years have met. As mentioned here the two most famous are, "My Sweet Lord" sued by the writers of "He's So Fine" (which is sketchy) and Ray Parker, Jr. for "Ghostbusters" sued by "Huey Lewis" for I want a new drug. The Tom Petty and Chili Peppers song are nowhere near that level of similarity. The chili peppers could just claim they were sampling and make the whole thing even harder to prove.
 
2006-06-01 03:19:32 PM  
just cusious - what Stones song did the Verve use?
 
2006-06-01 03:21:55 PM  
Tom Pretty probably downloaded the RHCP's album... and is now sueing RHCP's for hearing it. What a country. Farking americans.
 
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