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(NY Daily News)   Former Met Bud Harrelson compares future razing of Shea Stadium to the WTC   (nydailynews.com) divider line 71
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2006-05-25 09:43:28 AM
A bit of a stretch there submitter. I think Harrelson was saying that for him, emotionally, it would be the same: places where he had good times now gone.

/ironically, Shea still has the Twin Towers covered by a sympathy ribbon up on the scoreboard
 
2006-05-25 09:55:36 AM
Well, that depends on how many people you can fit in there before you blow it up.
/one please
 
2006-05-25 10:00:58 AM
Shea sucks
 
2006-05-25 11:18:23 AM
Since this is going green, I figure this is a good place to ask this - will the Mets be bringing the home run apple along with them to the new ballpark?

/end (slight) threadjack
//hey, it's related to the mets stadiums, right?
 
2006-05-25 11:22:18 AM
With all of the neo-retro ballparks and open aired football stadiums, the fact that NYC has a 40 y/o Cookie Cutter stadium in this day & age is pathetic!

Personally, I'd keep Yankee Stadium as is (although previous redesign 30 y/o makes it kinda moot historically). Never a problem filling those seats at premium prices.

Shea ... nuke it (but then again, I hate the Mets).

There's enough room out there to buiild both a ballpark & football stadium (screw the West Side Stadium plan, also a moot point now that we lost the NYC2012 Olympic bid).

Screw multi-purpose municipal stadiums. Their time has passed.
 
2006-05-25 11:23:03 AM
Shea may be a piece of crap, but it's a wonderful piece of crap, and I'm gonna be sad to see it go. I bet the new bathrooms will be well advertised so that there won't be those two that are always empty, no matter how long the lines are at the others.

And yeah, the apple better be coming. The old apple, no new apple.
 
2006-05-25 11:48:39 AM
Beatles played there twice.
 
fj
2006-05-25 11:48:59 AM
He maybe be right.

Are they still planning on knocking it down in the middle of a game?
 
2006-05-25 11:50:08 AM
Another fake flame bait headline. Isn't that getting old yet?
 
2006-05-25 11:50:55 AM
Christ I'm old. i saw the Mets play at the Polo Grounds when i was 4 years old.
 
2006-05-25 11:51:20 AM
Who does he think he is making that comparison? Kieth Hernandez?

Yeah, I know the headline's flamebait.
 
2006-05-25 11:52:17 AM
The Mets are behind the times in the "new stadium" boom, and want to catch up. There's very little historical or architectural value to that place, and getting a new one in the same location isn't the worst thing in the world they could do.

That, and I'm sure there were people who lamented Riverfront, Three Rivers & the Vet going away too.

\not that ANY of those stadiums compare to their baseball replacement....not gonna say anything about the football replacement for Three Rivers, I'm using RebelBelle's computer and she may smack me at any time....
 
2006-05-25 11:52:28 AM
For me the only way the razing of Shea Stadium could equate to the emotional trauma I felt from the WTC attacks is if they knock it down without the Mets inside.
 
2006-05-25 11:53:28 AM
It's not exactly a cookie-cutter...
It's something different..
And yes, it's our wonderful piece of crap.

/grew up in LI
 
2006-05-25 11:54:04 AM
Ugliest stadium in MLB right now: RFK
Second ugliest: Shea

It won't be missed, even by Mets fans, especially when the really nice new one is complete.
 
2006-05-25 11:55:24 AM
I like it when sports people take themselves way too seriously.
 
2006-05-25 11:56:22 AM
Everyone gives Shea shiat, and it obviouslly is not Yankee Stadium, but I still like it. Sight lines aren't bad, I like the open space over the outfield fences, and I've been going there for over twenty years. I still think they should get Ralph Loren to sponsor the new stadium, so we can get The Polo Grounds back in NY.
 
2006-05-25 12:00:11 PM
It won't be like the World Trade center unless, after they blow it up, a bunch of idiots on the internet claim that it wasn't really a controlled demolition, but was actually destroyed when an unseen plane flew into it. Seriously, look at the way it is going to fall. No way that happens on purpose.
 
2006-05-25 12:01:12 PM
Best Stadium IMHO: SF Pac Bell (or whatever conglomerate it is named today; AT&T ??? )

Runner up: Camden Yards

I love Philly Cit Bank ... can watch the entire game while circumnavigating field, hitting all the great BEERTOWN craft brew kiosks.

!!! HELP !!! Has anyone been to BOTH SF Pac Bell & Pitt PNC Park ???

The look almost identical & I would like someone's compare/contrast on them both.

Hopefully, I plan on travelling to PNC this Summer to check it out.
 
2006-05-25 12:01:40 PM
q: what's dumber than a jock?

a: people who get their panties in a bunch over what a jock says.

they're stupid, people. it's alright; they're fun to watch. move along now.
 
2006-05-25 12:03:30 PM
Will someone fly the Yankee's team plane into it while the Mets are playing the Phillies?

'cause I'd watch that on pay-per-view
 
2006-05-25 12:06:07 PM
Build the Mets a new stadium! Look how well that worked for the Reds.

/my tax dollars at work.
 
2006-05-25 12:06:13 PM
JRHoward It won't be like the World Trade center unless, after they blow it up, a bunch of idiots on the internet claim that it wasn't really a controlled demolition, but was actually destroyed when an unseen plane flew into it. Seriously, look at the way it is going to fall. No way that happens on purpose.


And then all the politicos biatch, moan, & micromanage every detail so we can make a fitting memorial tribute while not putting home plate in the footprints of where it was before the attacks.

Just build the fcuking buildings already !!!

Learn from the Pearl Harbor Memorial: less is more.

The site itself will carry its own gravitas.
 
2006-05-25 12:12:15 PM
rocinante721 [TotalFark]
There's enough room out there to buiild both a ballpark & football stadium

who is building a football stadium? the Jets are staying in (new) Giants Stadium

FriarReb98
That, and I'm sure there were people who lamented the Vet going away too.

NOBODY misses the Vet. it was voted the worst field in baseball and football.
 
2006-05-25 12:12:46 PM
Boy, it's gonna take a lot of airplanes for them to take down the whole stadium.


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2006-05-25 12:14:53 PM
NOBODY misses the Vet

I think Jerome Brown and Reggie White both miss the Vet, but those are unusual circumstances.

Michael Irvin and Santa Claus are probably glad it's gone.
 
2006-05-25 12:18:45 PM
NYRBill rocinante721 [TotalFark]
There's enough room out there to buiild both a ballpark & football stadium

who is building a football stadium? the Jets are staying in (new) Giants Stadium



Yeah, I know.

I'm just saying it is kinda sad that NYC does not have new, modern stadiums for any team.

... and would it be too much to ask to have a NY team actually PLAY in NY ???

This is why I root for Buffalo.
 
2006-05-25 12:21:08 PM
A piece of my childhood is gonna be turned into a parking lot. Yay.
 
2006-05-25 12:21:12 PM
"I'm going to miss driving by it when it's gone," he said. "I guess it's like the World Trade Center: Your heart stops when you stop driving and there's just a hole."

Yeah, where do those New Yorkers get off remembering the WTC fondly and with sentimentality, instead of honoring it by wearing it on a T-shirt with a crying eagle and Dale Sr. looking on from the sky.

And God forbid anyone remember just as fondly the place where he or she enjoyed the greatest professional success of their lives.

/submitter's an asshat
 
2006-05-25 12:24:05 PM
I can't figure out why in the world, when they are spending the money to build a new field they opted for one that looks exactly like all the other new ones and doesn't even have a retractable roof.

Without a roof, they shouldn't even bother. There's nothing inherently wrong with Shea.

btw, The mechanic just has sour grapes or doesn't appreciate game traffic screwing up his business. There's no larger percentage of drunks coming out of Shea than any other MLB park.
 
2006-05-25 12:24:09 PM
I hope they take those ugly-ass blue and orange squares and incorporate them into the new stadium. They're what makes Shea Stadium Shea Stadium.
 
2006-05-25 12:33:44 PM
haplo53
Well put. He's not equating Shea with the WTC except that he will miss Shea as well.

As an Indiana kid, I grew up reading about the magical stadium where the miracle Mets played, where Broadway Joe made his name and where the Beatles performed. When I was a teenager, I got to take a school trip to NYC and I ditched the group to take in an afternoon game at Shea. Everything about it was mysterious and wonderful and it felt like a very comfortable ballpark.

I will miss Shea just as I missed the other so-called "cookie cutter" stadium I frequented as a kid: Cincy's Riverfront Stadium, where the Big Red Machine played.

I don't care much for baseball anymore, but those trips to old ballparks -- Baltimore's Memorial Stadium, the old Comiskey Park, even Indy's own Bush Stadium (it was the model for Wrigley Field, that's how old it was) -- will always live in my memory. When you tear down a stadium, it takes years before it becomes a comfortable place with its own idiosyncrasies and history.

it rips at the fabric of a community to take down a beloved old building. the super-rich may not like Shea's lack of amenities and such because it wasn't built for them. It was built for the working-class fans.

the new stadium, whatever it ends up looking like, will be a palace of luxury boxes and premier seating. the common fan has been priced out of existence.
 
2006-05-25 12:33:47 PM
ironically, Shea still has the Twin Towers covered by a sympathy ribbon up on the scoreboard

shea was actually a major staging ground for recovery and aid operations after 9/11... and I remember that asshat mike stanton (who was then with the yankees) saying that the mets were just doing it for the PR. asshat.
 
2006-05-25 12:34:28 PM
haplo53 -

1. Die in a fire.

2. I'm a huge Mets fan and will remember Shea Stadium fondly. I spent many, many hours there with my father and it has a lot of sentimental value to me. The razing of Shea will be sad, but these things happen. The terrorists throwing 2 airplanes into the Twin Towers doesn't just happen. It's sick, and people don't remember the WTC as a place where great things happened, they remember it as a place of heartache, heartbreak, and just an overall hideous time in our country's history.

3. Die in a fire.
 
2006-05-25 12:34:52 PM
I miss the Vet
 
2006-05-25 12:35:53 PM
fark_indiana
it rips at the fabric of a community to take down a beloved old building. the super-rich may not like Shea's lack of amenities and such because it wasn't built for them. It was built for the working-class fans.

eh, I hear where you're coming from, but let's face it: the "community" around shea is nothing but train yards and the chop shops across 126th street.
 
2006-05-25 12:37:57 PM
alumni72

Those ugly-ass blue and orange squares haven't been on Shea Stadium in about 25 years.
 
2006-05-25 12:38:34 PM
NYRBill: rocinante721 [TotalFark]
There's enough room out there to buiild both a ballpark & football stadium

who is building a football stadium? the Jets are staying in (new) Giants Stadium

FriarReb98
That, and I'm sure there were people who lamented the Vet going away too.

NOBODY misses the Vet. it was voted the worst field in baseball and football.



Philadelphians miss the Vet. Now both stadiums are more corporate and less "beat the hell out of the other team's fans without consequences"...although i did see a Mets fan pummeled for talking smack to an entire section while the police chucked and then kinda helped.

mall.ballparks.com

The anger kept you warm in the winter.
 
2006-05-25 12:39:48 PM
haplo53: shea was actually a major staging ground for recovery and aid operations after 9/11... and I remember that asshat mike stanton (who was then with the yankees) saying that the mets were just doing it for the PR. asshat.


Can you prove that or are you just talking out of your ass?
 
2006-05-25 12:40:00 PM
twobux

1. I'm guessing you're the submitter.

2. And I'm also a mets fan, so I really don't know what I said to piss you off. You grow up in NY, you get used to the WTC as part of the skyline. It's comforting. You grow to love the buildings. And you can remember that comfort with sentimentality at the same time you remember the events of 9/11 with horror.

Good God man, give some people around you some credit - shocker or not, human beings can hold two seemingly contradictory ideas/feelings in their heads at the same time.
 
2006-05-25 12:41:27 PM
I dunno, haplo53, maybe it was the whole 'asshat' thing.
 
2006-05-25 12:43:13 PM
TalkingBaseball

Daily News (New York)

September 26, 2001, Wednesday FOUR STAR EDITION

SECTION: SPORTS; Pg. 82

LENGTH: 480 words

HEADLINE: METS SLAM YANKS' RELIEVER SAY STANTON'S COMMENTS WAY OFF BASE

BYLINE: By T.J. QUINN DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

BODY:
MONTREAL - The Mets insist they did not want recognition for their efforts to raise money and help with rescue efforts at Ground Zero over the past two weeks, but they never expected they would have to defend their public exposure.

The Yankees' Mike Stanton said Saturday that whatever his team decides to do to help efforts, "It's not a PR ploy, it's about whatever's in our hearts."


I'd post a link, but it's actually off of lexis/nexis.
 
2006-05-25 12:43:16 PM
haplo53
Ha! You may be right! I'm not a New Yorker.

The only thing I can equate it to is Market Square Arena in my city. It was built when I was a small kid and it was a host to literally hundreds of events that shaped my life. Pacers/Bulls games, Springsteen and McCartney concerts, minor league hockey games, even a speech by the Dalai lama (!)

people from out of town were ecstatically happy when Conseco Fieldhouse was built, because Market Square had kind of a Stalinist archictectural feel to it, there was a brutal draft blowing through it and the bad seats were five miles high, it seemed like. So for them, the new arena was a godsend. To me, the old arena had heart and soul and I loved it dearly. I'd spent so much time there that it seemed like home to me. A poorly designed, slightly obsolete home, but home nevertheless.

i stayed up all night when they imploded MSA in 2001. i was drinking Crown from a flask and smoking a joint as I watched the building come down, taking with it a piece of my childhood. Conseco Fielshouse is a very nice basketball arena, and I appreciate its amenities since I work there. The behind-the-scenes areas at MSA were garbage. But I still miss MSA.

/old and sentimental...
 
2006-05-25 12:45:00 PM
twobux

if you don't want to be called an asshat, don't write flamebating headlines that are way more loaded than what the guy actually meant. it's that simple.
 
2006-05-25 12:46:29 PM
Misleading headline; the submitter gets a big ol' "FARKTARD" cap to wear for this one.

He's not comparing the razing of Shea to the WTC. He's comparing the personal emotional impact, which is a HUGE difference. It's like saying "the US government is practicing censorship in the same way that the Nazis did". That doesn't mean that the US gov't are Nazis, just that they're practicing one specific similar trait. Get it?
 
2006-05-25 12:46:46 PM
Oh, come on...it wasn't flame bait. The man compared it to the World Trade Center crater. Jeebuz!
 
2006-05-25 12:57:17 PM
illadelfian
Philadelphians miss the Vet. Now both stadiums are more corporate and less "beat the hell out of the other team's fans without consequences".

my wife lived in Philly for 10 years and she doesn't miss it. I went to many games there, Eagles, Phillies and Temple and the place was a hole.
/not like there were many championships won there
//yeah, I went there
///obvious troll in progress
 
2006-05-25 01:03:36 PM
illadelfian
Philadelphians miss the Vet. Now both stadiums are more corporate and less "beat the hell out of the other team's fans without consequences"...although i did see a Mets fan pummeled for talking smack to an entire section while the police chucked and then kinda helped.

I haven't been to the Linc, but it's a joy to watch baseball in CBP (the schmitter rocks!); and I think I've actually seen more fights at CBP (mostly in the 300s in right field) than I ever did during many, many phils games at the vet (I'm sure eagles games were a different story). I'm actually going to be at CBP tomorrow night, weather permitting.
 
2006-05-25 01:05:47 PM
fark_indiana

I saw it once from the outside when I was really, really young. Both MSA and Conseco look AWESOME on TV.
 
2006-05-25 01:08:46 PM
rocinante721

Screw multi-purpose municipal taxpayer-funded stadiums. Their time has passed.

Fixed it for ya.
 
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