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2006-05-20 01:43:49 PM
img.fark.com tag trumps sad tag surely. Also, what's sad about a murderer getting his due?
 
2006-05-20 01:53:40 PM
gh_geek: what's sad about a murderer getting his due?


If he was a murderer, I'd agree.
 
2006-05-20 02:03:31 PM
gh_geek: Also, what's sad about a murderer getting his due?

Murder victims generally don't ask to be murdered. The problem I have with Kevorkian is that he politicized an issue that didn't need politicizing. Doctors had been giving lethal doses of pain killers to critically ill patients for ages before that bonehead decided to be an attention whore and put it on Washington's fundie radar. The dumbass tag would have been more appropriate.
 
2006-05-20 02:23:03 PM
Man, the guy is seventy something. It's not like he was jumping out of the bushes with a knife.
 
2006-05-20 03:36:30 PM
Maybe those GIANT GLASSES are throwing his balance off?
 
2006-05-20 05:31:06 PM
He's a hero for doing what is right for his patients despite the outrage of people who apparently need to meddle in the private affairs of others.

What happens between a doctor and a patient is a private matter. We've enacted HIPAA laws to protect that relationship.
 
2006-05-20 05:33:34 PM
I agree that people should have the right to do for themselves, yada yada yada. However, he really seemed to enjoy his work a little too much.
 
2006-05-20 05:52:19 PM
I say there should be a death-cage match between Kevorkian and Bill Frist!
 
2006-05-20 05:52:40 PM
I don't see anything wrong with he did and its a shame the media labled him as "Dr. Death"

the amusing part of the article was where he said he's sorry and he promised never to do it agian. doesn't that sound like a little kid apologizing to mommy and daddy?

Besides, if they did let him out, I doubt he'd find many patients
 
2006-05-20 05:52:50 PM
I always thought it was a bit of selective application of the law to allow some people to do with their body what they want with the assistance of a doctor (Roe v. Wade), but not others (voluntary euthanasia).
 
2006-05-20 05:53:11 PM
What I never understood about this whole issue was: why not just do it yourself? Why bring in a second party? Then again, I've never been critically ill. Also, I'm just here to see the chair of death from the Critic.
 
2006-05-20 05:53:43 PM
You know who also killed people?

Hitler, thats who.
 
2006-05-20 05:56:54 PM
Wobambo: What I never understood about this whole issue was: why not just do it yourself? Why bring in a second party? Then again, I've never been critically ill. Also, I'm just here to see the chair of death from the Critic.

A few reasons:

1. Critically ill people may not be physically able to kill themselves.

2. The #1 fear people tend to have about death is actually the amount of pain involved. It's reassuring to have someone who is an expert and can assure you that you won't feel a thing.
 
2006-05-20 05:58:13 PM
He has the potential to kill more people on his release.
No im not talking about assisted suicide, im talking about when he decides to go on a shopping spree to the local farmers market.
 
2006-05-20 05:58:14 PM
Wobambo:
He did just them do it themselves. He merely provided the necessary drugs so it wouldn't be messy (e.g. with a gun) or risky (e.g. ODing on Tylenol).
 
2006-05-20 05:58:44 PM
Culture of Life* strikes again!

*Life only valid if you are an unborn fetus or terminally ill vegetable. Muslims, Third World children, liberals, and impregnated rape victims need not apply. Void where prohibited, no purchase necessary to win!
 
2006-05-20 05:59:04 PM
Besides having to hear about Kevorkian himself, I curse him for also bringing to national prominence the odious Geoffrey Feiger.
 
2006-05-20 05:59:13 PM
Damn, a Godwin in what, 17 posts? Good job, ImJustaTroll, you may have set a new Fark record!

/*Applause*
 
2006-05-20 05:59:14 PM
ultrafark

I don't see anything wrong with he did and its a shame the media labled him as "Dr. Death"


Yeah but it's stupid to do it as long as there aren't regulations for it. How do we know his patients wanted it? How do we know he followed all the necessary steps to make sure? How do we know they got psychiatric evaluations, etc.? How do we know they were terminally ill?

I don't necessarily have a problem with people wanting to die, but you have to make sure of a LOT of things first. You have to make sure they know all their options, you have to make sure they are in good mental health, you have to make sure they aren't depressed, you have to make sure of a lot of things.

And when you go off and kill people like he did, we can't be sure. So he is a dumbass and a murderer.
 
2006-05-20 05:59:27 PM
Further, if euthanasia becomes legal, I think that it should only be legal under a doctor and a psychiatrist's supervision, to make sure that euthanasia is truly the patient's choice and is in the patient's best interests.
 
2006-05-20 06:00:50 PM
madcat033: I don't necessarily have a problem with people wanting to die, but you have to make sure of a LOT of things first. You have to make sure they know all their options, you have to make sure they are in good mental health, you have to make sure they aren't depressed, you have to make sure of a lot of things.

Just for the sake of argument... if I weren't in good mental health, I'd want to die.
 
jre
2006-05-20 06:00:55 PM
I'm glad to see the irony tag used properly today.

L33t Squirrel: Damn, a Godwin in what, 17 posts? Good job, ImJustaTroll, you may have set a new Fark record!

Bah, I've seen it done in the headline before.
 
2006-05-20 06:01:23 PM
"The problem I have with Kevorkian is that he politicized an issue that didn't need politicizing."

You've got to be kidding! The state prevents people of sound mind from ending their lives instead of dying slow, painful deaths. This needs to be politicized, big time. Hushing up what we all know happens isn't a solution.
 
jre
2006-05-20 06:02:10 PM
Sum Dum Gai: Further, if euthanasia becomes legal, I think that it should only be legal under a doctor and a psychiatrist's supervision, to make sure that euthanasia is truly the patient's choice and is in the patient's best interests.


Absolutely. They have a psych and a doc involved for something permanently life-altering as a sex change. Death is final; they certainly should be involved here.
 
2006-05-20 06:02:17 PM
ImJustaTroll

I LOL'd
 
2006-05-20 06:02:47 PM
I wonder if we'd be able to afford universal healthcare if we didn't waste so many of our medical resources keeping half-decayed corpses on life support indefinately...?
 
2006-05-20 06:03:00 PM
Kevorkian poisoned his own people!
 
2006-05-20 06:03:35 PM
Dufus knew he'd go to jail when he so publicly pulled the final syringes. Did he think he was going to get young in prison? Now he's a martyr.
 
2006-05-20 06:03:43 PM
I want to hear from some religious asshats who say that a ternimally ill patient in constant suffering has no right to end their life.
 
2006-05-20 06:04:26 PM
But maybe he did enjoy his work too much.

Then again, I know Marine Grunts who enjoy their work a little too much as well. That was what he wanted to do with his life, and he didn't see anything wrong with it in his mind. I don't either. Some don't want to live with a terminal illness, others would rather just live their life to the fullest before they die if they have one.
 
2006-05-20 06:05:11 PM
By the way, if any of you Farkers want to off yourself peacefully, try hemlock. You know, I think that's probably a more civilized way of carrying out capital punishment than the electric chair (ughh) or lethal injection (tch.)
 
2006-05-20 06:05:32 PM
mama's_tasty_foods

Funny thing is Feiger mostly deals with minors. Most of his cases he works he's either doing criminal defense or civil litigation representing minors. Loud and obnoxious? Perhapts but it comes with the territory.
 
2006-05-20 06:05:43 PM
I don't want to see this cat get the juice, I'm against assisted suicide.

Then again, if you have heard him speak, you know he's a crazy bastard. Personally, I wouldn't shed many tears.

All that said, this is not irony. It's perfectly fitting if someone were to juice him up.
 
2006-05-20 06:06:26 PM
Can I get a picture of this guy?
 
2006-05-20 06:06:28 PM
This guy is a political prisoner, not a danger to the public.
 
2006-05-20 06:07:20 PM
Mugato

Hey man, Jesus would want you to suffer.

Now, as I understand it, you'll go to hell if you commit suicide. So suicide is illegal, or at least helping is. So why aren't we locking up adulterers and gluttons?

Amercia's motto should be "We'll get you to heaven even if it means life in prison".
 
2006-05-20 06:08:08 PM
czarangelus
By the way, if any of you Farkers want to off yourself peacefully, try hemlock.

You get your very own cyanide pill when you move up to being an UltraF%$*()&$#

NO CARRIER
 
2006-05-20 06:08:20 PM
Kevorkian is a hero, and will be exonerated by history as we roll on.

Especially as individual life becomes less important to the System.

Feiger's brother wrote "My Sharona", so he does have that going for him.
 
2006-05-20 06:09:46 PM
HIPPA laws......R U stupid or what...protect the privacy??? Does not happen....ask Rush So many exceptions written into the HIPPA laws in order to get around a persons privacy......
 
2006-05-20 06:10:29 PM
It is called suicide for a reason...it means that you have to do it YOURSELF.
 
2006-05-20 06:11:01 PM
wh0mprat: Now, as I understand it, you'll go to hell if you commit suicide.

Yeah, two guys are sitting in Hell getting ass raped by Satan. The one guy says to the other,

"What are you in for eternity for?"

"I raped a dozen children and committed genocide to an entire race, you?"

"I had terminal cancer and was in constant pain and caused a drain on my family so I pulled my feeding tube."

"You sick fark"
 
2006-05-20 06:11:25 PM
God bless Dr. Kevorkian.
 
2006-05-20 06:12:00 PM
the whole issue is the 'slippery slope of quality of life'. Sure, we are helping old people who are in pain and will shortly anyways avoid a bad situation a little sooner.

but that opens up a pandora's box of new issues. if we kill off sick, old people in pain, what about people who lost a limb or people who have some other painful, but not fatal disease? What about the quality of life of those who are handicapped? Those who are just plain ugly (you know who you are)? Do we let them avoid a doomed existence?

And just wait until the government wants to dip its hand into this pot!
 
2006-05-20 06:12:43 PM
above should read "will die shortly"

pimf
 
2006-05-20 06:12:52 PM
czarangelus
What do you think of the idea of allowing murderers and rapists the opportunity to off themselves after being found guilty?

I think that would be a fine system.
 
2006-05-20 06:15:08 PM
Bush has killed tens of thousands of people who DIDN'T want to die. They're imprisoning the wrong person.
 
2006-05-20 06:15:14 PM
wh0mprat: What do you think of the idea of allowing murderers and rapists the opportunity to off themselves after being found guilty?

I think that would be a fine system.


I don't know. It's a careful balance that needs to be struck between permission and compulsion. One of the good points that people against euthanasia makes, is that insurance companies would start to pressure people and families to off ill relatives against their wishes, because it'd be cheaper. So the insurance companies would basically force the families to pay the full cost of medical care if assisted suicide were an "option," or coerce them into euthanasia. I'm for it, but it's definately something that we need to go about very carefully.
 
2006-05-20 06:16:09 PM
Bush has killed tens of thousands of people who DIDN'T want to die

When did he do that? I don't remember that.
 
2006-05-20 06:16:09 PM
ImJustaTroll
You know who also killed people?

Hitler, thats who.


Just off hand I can't think of anyone Hitler killed by his own hand ( other then himself ).
 
2006-05-20 06:16:20 PM
mama's_tasty_foods

Thanks! :)
 
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