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(ESPN)   Northwestern women's soccer team suspended: No, they didn't sexually assault a male stripper, but they did draw all over each other's bodies while drunk in their underwear   (sports.espn.go.com) divider line 227
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2006-05-15 08:58:40 PM
I'm gonna need pics and video here.
 
2006-05-15 09:16:54 PM
A Web site on Monday displayed pictures

Thanks for the help there ESPN. How are we supposed to conduct anykind of decent investigation without knowing which website.

/Now that would be crack reporting!
 
2006-05-15 09:36:08 PM
Badjocks has picture goodness.
 
2006-05-15 09:37:45 PM
Drunk co-eds armed with dangerous markers. That's real high on the list of things that I am worried about.

Kids
Why can't they be like we were, perfect in every way?
What's the matter with kids today?
 
2006-05-15 09:37:56 PM
This thread is worthless without a Law Degree.
 
2006-05-15 09:40:05 PM
the pics-- no nudity, but probably NSFW
 
2006-05-15 09:47:36 PM
flubby: the pics


very nice
 
2006-05-15 10:20:31 PM
That server is already groaning under the stress, but damn that was hot. Especially pics 13 and 15.

Many kittens will perish tonight.
 
2006-05-15 10:52:59 PM
Pff, that's nothing.

A house party I attended a couple years back, had the freshman girls from the university swim team parading about in full initiation regalia.

They had to drink wearing bras and panties and blindfolds, and had things written on them as well.

Wait, this is just about the same. It's only better because my friends and I were at this party.
 
2006-05-15 11:03:17 PM
SUSPENSION?!?!?!?!

This should be encouraged.
 
2006-05-15 11:14:15 PM
flubby is da MAN!
 
2006-05-15 11:26:14 PM
the funny thing is...they're wearing more in those pics than the volleyball team does on the court.
 
2006-05-16 12:24:43 AM
-looks around this thread-
can we get some like-minded people in positions of power please.

I don't know who the people are that find this offensive, but i want them deported from earth..stat.
 
2006-05-16 01:27:02 AM
Dr.Knockboots: I don't know who the people are that find this offensive, but i want them deported from earth..stat.

It's hazing. It's against the university rules. They represent the school, they get paid 40k a year to play, and they are role models to thousands of impressionable young girls. I'll copy/paste what I posted in the other thread from the article BEFORE they were suspended to save myself time, and since nobody went to that thread:

Actually I think she took them down. All of the roster directory on the official site is down, as are all of the facebook profiles I looked for (and I know they had them as I've been to them before).

That's one of the freshman's photo albums. I don't know if that makes it better or worse for the team. It's kind of sad someone at my school was naive enough not only to take pictures of the event, but to post them on the internet. I didn't go to any of their games this year, so I don't know any of the freshmen. I don't personally know any of the girls, but from the ones I have talked to, a few are nice, but others do come across as elitist, at least compared to other female teams on campus. The fact that they are only a mediocre team kind of makes that worse.

As far as doing shiat like this, I really don't think it's acceptable, even if it weren't against the rules. Completely ignoring the fact that most of them are basically getting paid $40,000 a year to play on the team and that athletes are pretty much all the outside world sees of the school, they are some of the biggest role models for girls, from high school all the way down to 5 year olds. We don't have much fan support at our school, so go to any women's team game and that's basically what you'll see: high school girls, coming alone or as a team, and younger girls coming with their parents. I've gone to away games and multiple times overheard girls talking about how great some of the female athletes from my school are, and not just as athletes. These are impressionable girls who live half way across the country and have never had any direct contact with the person about whom they are talking. If they are influenced by them, imagine how much local girls are. Kids don't just want to play their sport as well as the older athletes they see - they want to be like them in every way.

It's one thing for the the girls over 21 on the team to drink at their apartments or at bars. I don't have too much of a problem with the girls under 21 drinking, if they try to keep it private and don't put any pressure on anyone to do it. Hazing to any degree - especially in an organization like a NCAA team - is completely unacceptable. The NCAA itself should have strict rules regarding this, including penalties for specific violations. I don't care if every school does it, or if they'll do it anyway; the problem will never get better without enforced standards. My favorite NCAA poster is the one with the kids that says "Be a hero. Little eyes are watching." It would be nice if the athletes took that to heart, and if the NCAA did something about those that don't.

We had an incident with the freshman mascot 'initiates' and hazing this year, and I believe all of them were kicked off the squad. If they don't do something similar to the players involved - penalizing them some way by suspending them for X games or revoking scholarships or whatever - I will be very disappointed.
 
2006-05-16 01:27:45 AM
Don't see anything wrong with this.
www.rentincome.com
 
2006-05-16 01:28:36 AM
Last night i was at a University of Kentucky women's volleyball team party where the freshmen girls had to give oral to all the men there.
Oh wait. That was just a dream. Nevermind.
 
2006-05-16 01:28:38 AM
good god.

pics?
 
2006-05-16 01:29:17 AM
Why are those soccer guys looking at each other while they're getting lap dances?

GHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYY!!!!!
 
2006-05-16 01:29:43 AM
Great visuals aside...you can't help but think the pictures of the two girls making out will forever haunt one or both of them. I knew a girl and high school that stripped for the senior class, and she moved 10 states away, but she still struggles to find employment.
 
2006-05-16 01:30:40 AM
Ah I love living in Illinois....Never a dull moment.
 
2006-05-16 01:31:15 AM
Damn. I wanna be on the boys' soccer team.
 
2006-05-16 01:32:39 AM
BaconatedGrapefruit: they are role models to thousands of impressionable young girls.

Kinda like Brandi Chastain was, when she whipped off her top.

Now I just gotta Photoshop Julie Foudy's head onto some of those pics, and I'll be set for the night.
 
2006-05-16 01:34:42 AM
Northwestern's Division of Student Affairs will conduct the investigation, Murphy said

If that's the case, they'll all be suspended indefinitely, even after all allegations are proven false. They better transfer to another school if they want to graduate within the next 10 years. NU has the most incompetent, racist administration imaginable, and student affairs is the worst. They care nothing about the students, only about getting paid, getting promotions, and not getting sued. They're too stupid to realize that this is much more likely to get you fired and sued than actually doing a good job would.
 
2006-05-16 01:35:14 AM
BaconatedGrapefruit

A key part of hazing is the risk of grievous bodily harm or sexual violation. Girls drinking and writing on each other with marker? That's not it. Let's not play the drinking thing either. When I was at the U of Wisconsin it was out in the open people drank underage. Cops would see it and do nothing. I walked past more than one cop with a cup of beer and not one ever did anything.

So long as those being written on agree to it, aren't tied or taped down or having it done in unsafe condition, it's not really hazing. Not really close. When you have a situation where people are laughing at what's happening to them, you have a hard case to make if you want to argue hazing.
 
2006-05-16 01:35:41 AM
This thread is useful, as it contains pictures.
 
2006-05-16 01:36:03 AM
I go to Northwestern so I'm really getting a kick out of these replys...

But no really, I do.

I know a few of the girls in the pictures, almost all of them live in my dorm and few of them live on my floor.
 
2006-05-16 01:36:13 AM
BaconatedGrapefruit:

While I can completley understand your point of view...you forgot to remind yourself of the fact that this is indeed college anyway you slice it. It's part of a awesome growth experience. If you think this is bad...take a look at some of your male athletic programs...will make this incident tame at best.
 
2006-05-16 01:36:51 AM
A Web site on Monday displayed pictures allegedly of Northwestern soccer players in T-shirts and underwear, some wearing blindfolds and others with their hands tied behind their backs. Other women had words or pictures scrawled on their bodies and clothes, and it appeared some were drinking alcohol.

That sounds like a lot of fun.
 
2006-05-16 01:36:55 AM
www.hostimage.org
 
2006-05-16 01:39:58 AM
Oops, never mind...didn't see flubby's link until now.
 
2006-05-16 01:41:04 AM
Thread over. lurch_E_bean wins.

Bounty--Any pics?

/Proud Northwestern grad.
//Thinks this ain't shight. NU is over 50% Greek. A LOT worse happens than this.
 
2006-05-16 01:43:52 AM
argh i wanted to facebook friend these girls.
 
2006-05-16 01:47:36 AM
that is so hot!
God i love athletic chicks
 
2006-05-16 01:48:26 AM
I think Fark is the website that led to the website that led to the pictures that led to the suspension... cause on the monday links we have:
"To make it on the Northwestern University women's soccer team, you need to be into lap dances, bondage and girl-on-girl action. Ball handling optional (with picture goodness)"
 
2006-05-16 02:01:02 AM
Go U!
 
2006-05-16 02:02:20 AM
This thread is useless without pics!
 
2006-05-16 02:02:51 AM
Oh God, I pray for pics. College soccer players are hot. Lean, nice legs, GREAT legs. Best sport for ogling EVER. Even better than volleyball, thanks to those weirdly unflattering volleyball uniforms.

/goes back to being sensitive feminist male
 
2006-05-16 02:07:25 AM
cashman, grackle, try to keep up, fellas.
 
2006-05-16 02:09:38 AM
Okay, I stand corrected. I should be more specific. I pray for pics that I actually get to look at.

/hits refresh again
 
2006-05-16 02:10:57 AM
We're turning into a nation of pussies.
 
2006-05-16 02:11:04 AM
All of this goes on in college? Since when?! How many and how much?!!

/no shiat
//nothing wrong with it in my book
 
2006-05-16 02:17:36 AM
NU!!! (to follow up Aloha Charlie Bravo)

As a Northwestern student, this is just unacceptable.

OH WAIT..

As a black Northwestern student, has anyone even farking seen what goes on in the NPHC (National Pan-Hellenic Council) organizations.. read: black people frats and sororities.. at NU??? Here's a hint, it doesn't involve fun things like drinking and making out. In fact, from what I've heard, it hurts, a lot.
 
2006-05-16 02:18:37 AM
Alpha Charlie Bravo - my bad
 
2006-05-16 02:19:08 AM
WhyteRaven74: When I was at the U of Wisconsin it was out in the open people drank underage

Common != legal
Accepted != legal

If you want to change the laws, talk to your congressmen. If you want to change NCAA policy, write them a letter.

So long as those being written on agree to it, aren't tied or taped down or having it done in unsafe condition, it's not really hazing.

INCORRECT. Look on the linked article for the NU rules and you'll see this fits the definition.

When you have a situation where people are laughing at what's happening to them, you have a hard case to make if you want to argue hazing.

You don't understand at all what hazing is. Please discontinue posting until you are less ignorant.
 
2006-05-16 02:19:24 AM
There are only 15 of 46 pictures linked. I demand to see the other 31 immediately!

/procrastinating
//art history vs. boobies...
 
2006-05-16 02:20:05 AM
krk3561
I go to Northwestern so I'm really getting a kick out of these replys...
But no really, I do.
I know a few of the girls in the pictures, almost all of them live in my dorm and few of them live on my floor.


I don't believe you. To prove it is true, call one of them . . . . . and invite them over to have a threesome with us. :-)
 
2006-05-16 02:21:22 AM
Those images hit so close to home... except I did all of that for fun :)
 
2006-05-16 02:26:57 AM
Pics #12,13... fap fap fap fap fap ... fap fap .... ah.
 
2006-05-16 02:28:29 AM
bounty: While I can completley understand your point of view...you forgot to remind yourself of the fact that this is indeed college anyway you slice it.

That's the only argument I'm hearing from anyone, and it is the weakest argument I can imagine. "Everyone cheats, so it's ok." "Everyone fudges on their tax return, so it's ok." "My wife expects me to sleep around, so it's ok." You cannot justify breaking rules/laws with "everyone does it" or "it's expected." These things would not be agaist the rules if they were acceptable.

If you think this is bad...take a look at some of your male athletic programs...will make this incident tame at best.

Oh I know. That's one of the reasons I don't associate myself with male varsity athletes. 90% of them are outgoingly misogynistic, selfish assholes. I know they do the same things, and probably worse. Find me pictures of them breaking an NCAA rule with which I agree, and I'll report their violations myself. Until then, I'll complain most about the athletes that are dumb enough to post evidence on the internet of their violations.
 
2006-05-16 02:29:09 AM
Soccer players are all communists, homosexuals, or dope smokers.
 
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