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10979 clicks; posted to Main » on 12 Jun 2002 at 12:55 PM (15 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2002-06-12 02:18:57 PM  
2002-06-12 02:19:56 PM  
I used to be a member of DeMolay, sort of Freemasonry for kids. I started the process of becoming a Freemason, but stopped (got destracted by other things in life, lost interest, heavy drugs, etc.). Is Freemasonry a cult, probably by some people's definition it is, but you could call anything a cult, it's such a meaningless term.

The reason they want to keep it a secret it because, in Europe, Freemasons have been heavily persecuted. They, along with Jews, Jahova's Witnesses, the handicapped and homosexuals, were the groups put to death by the Nazi's.

Yes, there are a bunch of rituals, handshakes, funny words, etc. Do people get jobs from other people or get off tickets because an employer or judge is also a Freemason, yes. But that's no more than you and an employer realizing you were in the same Frat together.

Basically Utter-Bastard is right, just a bunch of fat guys drinking beer.

And yes, Fark is most definitely a cult.
2002-06-12 02:29:01 PM  
Frodo: I had a friend who was in DeMoley, he said they were more of a college frat for high schoolers that did good things etc (I talked to him about DeMoley 2 years ago.) As for the whole Freemasons cutting eachother slack, well, everybody does that. It's like getting a job with a good starting salery because your grandfather fought in WW2 with the company head's father, or getting out of a ticket because your dad's a cop.
2002-06-12 02:30:21 PM  
Elwood--shriners are loosely affiliated with freemasonry; the founders were freemasons. I don't know if you have to be a mason in order to become a shriner, however. I was under the impression that shriners were masons, but based on the shriners' website, i seem to be mistaken.
2002-06-12 02:31:38 PM  
Fark is a cult? without my black Nike's and I still have my nuts...
2002-06-12 02:33:55 PM  
This and the castration thread are starting to look a lot alike.
2002-06-12 02:35:59 PM  
2002-06-12 02:37:02 PM  
I'm a 32nd degree Freemason. I'll be happy to spill the beans, what would you like to know...
2002-06-12 02:37:06 PM  
"Yes, well, that's just the kind of philistine, pig ignorance I've come to expect from you non-creative garbage. You sit there on your loathsome spotty behinds squeezing blackheads all day, not giving a tinkers cuss about the struggling artist you excrement. You whining, hypocritical toadies with your color TV sets and your Tony Jacklin gold clubs, you wouldn't give me a chance would you, you blackballing bastards! Well I wouldn't become a Freemason now, if you got down on your lousy stinking hands and knees and begged me!"
2002-06-12 02:37:07 PM  
Real remon: secret password of the Water Buffalos?
2002-06-12 02:38:07 PM  
'Golf clubs'
2002-06-12 02:44:25 PM  

From the link you posted:

" To be a member of the Shrine, a man must first be a Master Mason in the Masonic fraternity."

Or at least that's what they want you to think...
2002-06-12 02:47:09 PM  
the coolest cult is the skulls, cause george w. was in it. and so was that guy from dawsons creek
2002-06-12 02:53:59 PM  
Only like 4 people have commented on the actual situation presented in the article. Masons should have to be identified for police and judge jobs for reasons that the few have mentioned. They give breaks to other masons. It's a conflict of interests or something like that.
2002-06-12 02:55:16 PM  
No, currently, you have to be a Blue Lodge mason (a 3rd degree mason) to join the shrine. It used to be that you needed to be a 32nd degree, or in the Knights Templar (the christian branch), but that changed within the last 2 years.
2002-06-12 02:55:26 PM  
Someone tell us lowly non-masons how the mason secret handshakes go.
2002-06-12 02:59:57 PM  
Do you think that rotarians need to be identified? Or college frats? People will always give breaks to their associates. Whether it's Masons or members of the same country club, i don't think that your personal club memberships should be anything other than that...personal.
2002-06-12 03:15:13 PM  
Yes, the requirements as they now stand are that you have to be a Master Mason before you are admitted to the Shrine. When I joined, you either had to go through the York Rite or Scottish Rite first, to become either a 32nd Degree Mason or a Knight Templar.
2002-06-12 03:17:03 PM  
I got caught mastermason in the closet once. Very embarrassing.
2002-06-12 03:18:33 PM  
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they had a good mason on their side to begin with.

good old perry mason.
2002-06-12 03:19:13 PM  
Who are the Freemasons? Well besides the Church of Scientology they are the most evil organization on Earth. Currently in the USA anyways, the public front of Masonry is merely a recruiting area where the bring those who "can be trusted" into the true inner circle. Masonry has been rightly discredited in this nation since the 1800's when they publicly commited many atrocious acts, such as the slaying of members who spoke of their secrets. Sadly enough at the time they controlled much of the politics and civil affairs of New England and New York. How evil you may say? well it is a common Masonic practice to break into Catholic Chruchs to steal the Eucharist, (which they [the Masons] belive is the body of Christ) and use it in their Satanic rituals. Yes Satanic the Masons are Satanists, hence their term "Do as thou wilt".
2002-06-12 03:23:54 PM  
Scarneck: hehe.

I remember I used to go to a chat ages ago where I knew some of the mods/ops of it, I would get specials like not getting kicked for violating little rules or having voice when it was +m(ute), I even formed a group of 4 that would trade data in a closed circle (it fell apart after we lost contact with 1 member.) Just another (simplified) example of how friends cut deals with friends in society.
2002-06-12 03:25:13 PM  

You are correct in everything you say, we do control the world. Now clear out your desk... you are fired
2002-06-12 03:27:18 PM  
I only take orders from those who ride in yellow submarines, that or Rosecructians.
2002-06-12 03:29:34 PM  

Your thoughts are intriguing I'd like to subsribe to your newsletter
2002-06-12 03:31:48 PM  
plase ad me to yuor lits for teh fark clubb
2002-06-12 03:34:43 PM  

You're an idiot, plain and simple. Watch out for the Black Helocoptors, hey? Of course, since you wrote this you're probably on the run now because them big bad evil Freemasons are out to get you.
2002-06-12 03:42:31 PM  
I have an I dea if they want to find the masons why dont they try looking at the wealthiest cops and anone whering any jewlry containing tools for carpentry
2002-06-12 03:49:11 PM  
2002-06-12 03:50:15 PM  
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Stop discussing this immediately or we will close this thread.

2002-06-12 04:00:45 PM  
My dad was a Mason. I was driving his car when I was about 18 and one time it broke down way out in the sticks. They replaced alot of parts--I was ready for a bill of couple of hundred, took about hour to fix. The guy just said, we'll just charge ya for the parts, I'm not too busy today. Came to like $30 bucks..and also said he 'topped up the battery' .
I thought it was stange to be so cheap. But a few weeks later I had reason to look under the hood and notice the Mason symbol drawn in the dust on the battery. Ahhhhh.
2002-06-12 04:19:48 PM

are some good links for more information about what freemasonry is really about, not that "anti-mason" crap you hear from the tin-foil hat crowd. Or you can come to a lodge and ask someone about masonry.

2002-06-12 04:21:42 PM  
Those Masons should just get pregnant and then get abortions... then no one would dare touch their "privacy rights."
2002-06-12 04:32:13 PM  
I am a mason. Looks like Lcross is too. What do you guys want to know?
2002-06-12 04:44:34 PM  
Wow, it just hit me, I saw a Masonic temple and it never even registered what it was.
2002-06-12 04:47:11 PM  
I'm sure that the freemasons aren't a huge deal. I'm in a fraternity and being in a fraternity is no big deal. People get the wrong idea about that all the time.
2002-06-12 04:49:33 PM  
Greeting Madpiper, I'm a mason as well.
2002-06-12 04:50:53 PM  

You win the prize for packing the most insanely ridiculous crap I have ever read, into a single Fark post. Congrats!!

I'm still LMAO about Masons stealing the sacrament from Catholic churches. Obviously you have never been Catholic OR Masonic or you would understand how ridiculous that statement is. Not only logically, buy metaphysically as well, since the Eucharist is not the "body of Christ" until the miracle of Transubstantiation takes place at the hands of the Priest during the Mass.

The rest of your commentary (not meaning to to exclude any of the prior remarks) is so asinine, it does not even warrant comment. If you were simply trying to be sarcastic (INSTEAD of moronic), it fell flat and I make no apology for "over-reacting".
2002-06-12 04:52:13 PM  
Im a Mason, and sure you may know the "secret word or handshake" but theres a lot more to it than what you think, and no its not a drinking club, we donot condone the drinking of Alcahol to the excess, honestly why doesnt everyone worry about attackind the French, Arab terrorists or PeTA you know the real satanic grade evil
2002-06-12 04:53:09 PM  
I am a mason. Looks like Lcross is too. What do you guys want to know?

I'll bite on this one- I've always wanted to know about this stuff-

How did you join?

Why did you join?

Now that you are in, what dod you do- are there meetings, rituals, is there a lodge, etc? How often do you meet?

Do you have secret handshakes/symbols? Do you get together and drink beer? Does your organization have some Christian theology at it's core?

Whereabouts do you live? Is there a lodge nearby? Do you know of any freemasons in San Diego? I go to a computer show that is held at the "Scottish Rites Center in San Diego, CA, are they freemasons? Are all "masons" "freemasons"?

Does it cost money to join/stay in? Are most masons wealthy? Do they have connections that allow them to acquire welth more easily then non-members? Are there really "secret deals" like the stories we all hear about Masons having connections in law and service sectors, so that they get political favors or free work, etc? If I have a Master's degree, does that increase my chances of getting in?

What is required to join, and why do people typically want to?
2002-06-12 04:54:28 PM  
Shriners are bastards. Someone oughta kick their fez-wearing, tiny-car-riding asses.
2002-06-12 05:00:10 PM  
Wogus: I'm sure you know this, but I thought I'd just mention it for correction. The Eucharist (blessed) sits in the church as well after every mass, to be distributed to the sick or those unable to leave their homes. Hence the Body of Christ is in the church at many times when mass is not is session.
2002-06-12 05:04:54 PM  
Shriners are bastards

Yah! polluting the landscape with all those crippled children's hospitals and and burn institutes which cost burned children $0.00 for care (Thats FREE, shriners raise the money and pay for everything.) Whats next? Visiting children in hospitals to cheer them up?
2002-06-12 05:11:23 PM  
Paddlefarker: No no, visiting hospitals to cheer up children is that bikers with teddys thing where these bikers drive all over the US with stuffed animals for kids.

Oh yeah, the Eucharist hosts are kept in a taberancle (sp?).
2002-06-12 05:22:14 PM  
BlueGargoyle: I will answer some of your questions

To join I asked someone I knew was a mason. I joined because alot of the men in my family are masons and I looked up to them. Now that i'm in I do a lot of community activites and we meet twice a month. Plus we have social gatherings from time to time.

Yes there are masons in San Diago. Go to and look for a lodge near you.

Yes, there are dues like any organization. And masons come from all walks of life. Rich, poor, black, white, christian, jew, even muslim.
Do we look out for each other? Well, no more than any other organization looks out for their members.

For more information visit and
2002-06-12 05:29:30 PM  
I got one question. Is there any sort of recruitment activities in freemasonry? I know those christians (some sects more than others) try to get everyone to come over to their side, but is freemasonry like that or is it just there and lets people come to it?
2002-06-12 05:34:14 PM  

Freemasons should not recruit. If some body comes to you and asks you to joing (especiall if you don't know them) then ignore them.

Also, contrary to what many believe, freemasonry is not a religion.
2002-06-12 05:39:03 PM  
Masons are EVIL!

Just in case that didn't work, just follow this link:
2002-06-12 05:40:49 PM  
Is there any sort of recruitment activities in freemasonry?

We have candidates breakfast now and then where members invite someone they would like to have join and they are given free food, get to meet some lodge members and get a short talk on who we are. Thats it, no pressure just information. Until recently it was forbidden to ask someone to join, they had to ask. These rules have been relaxed to varying degrees from state to state.

Masonry is non-denominational, the reason there is a bible in most lodges is most of the members are christian in that lodge. If the majority of members were muslim the Koran would be on the alter instead.
2002-06-12 05:46:06 PM  
No one came asking me to join, I saw just curious. And I didn't mean to imply that freemasonry is a relgiion, I know it's not, I was just using an oprginization that does recruit as an example to hopefully clarify my question. Thanks for the answer.
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