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(Some Guy)   Norway's richest man no longer a Norwegian after switching citizenship to Cyprus to avoid income tax   (upi.com) divider line 83
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2006-05-11 10:32:46 PM
My HERO!
 
2006-05-11 10:32:56 PM
Hm. If only we get some of the anti-tax crowd here to do that, and move permanently...
 
2006-05-11 10:33:06 PM
Herbjorn Hansson, like Frederiksen a shipping tycoon, told Aftenposten that his friend was "hunted" out of his native country by new tax regulations.

Herbjorn? Frederiksen? Afterposten?

CAT-LIKE TYPING DETECTED!

/okay, I'll shut up now.
 
2006-05-11 10:33:12 PM
Kinda like moving from Maine to New Hamphire...
 
2006-05-11 10:33:42 PM
woot!

/did not read the article
//good for him
 
2006-05-11 10:34:02 PM
^

Add "Bad Grammar". "Like Frederiksen a shipping tycoon"
 
2006-05-11 10:36:33 PM
Hmmm.... This sounds like all of your favourite British musicians from the early 70s.
 
2006-05-11 10:36:50 PM
asinine
 
2006-05-11 10:37:00 PM
i61.photobucket.com
 
2006-05-11 10:37:55 PM
Well, I have something in common with the guy, I haven't paid tax in Norway in several decades either.


/ya, I know it's lame
 
2006-05-11 10:38:35 PM
Isn't this a prime example of obvious?
 
2006-05-11 10:39:07 PM
Taxes are for other people.
 
2006-05-11 10:41:14 PM
driningbeerinpublic?

NOT 'lame'; FUNNY!!!
 
2006-05-11 10:42:14 PM
A lot of politicians assume that if they increase taxes by X, the tax revenue will increase by X (instead of 1/2X, or some such lesser amount)
 
2006-05-11 10:44:22 PM
www.freedom21santacruz.net
 
2006-05-11 10:44:29 PM
And Norway has not lost a kroner with the move, since he never paid taxes anyway.
 
2006-05-11 10:46:34 PM
birking loses thread.
 
2006-05-11 10:49:35 PM
JB-NoHo If only we get some of the anti-tax crowd here to do that, and move permanently...

Nobody in their right mind wishes to be plundered of the honestly earned rewards of their efforts. That many believe in this system, with its taxation-funded political structure does not mean that everybody has fallen for the Big Lie*. For the rest of us, stealing just seems wrong, even when it is the government doing the stealing.

*Big Lie: There is no better way to run the world than the way we do it now.
 
2006-05-11 10:56:34 PM
ComicBookGuy

birking loses thread.


Commie
 
2006-05-11 10:57:14 PM
birkin, greatest book ever
 
2006-05-11 11:00:04 PM
*I* am John Galt.


/wait
 
2006-05-11 11:00:38 PM
This guy (like the fake fark "libertarians") is a stupid selfish bastard.
 
2006-05-11 11:05:04 PM
img45.imageshack.us
Why does anybody think Birkin loses
the thread? Why automatically try to
dismiss someone just because he reads
different books?
 
2006-05-11 11:05:38 PM
Craptastic

What makes one a real libertarian?
 
2006-05-11 11:06:22 PM
As much as I go out of my way to deride Randroids birkin did not lose the thread.

He was just promoting his own superstition, much like iSlam, Xtians, buDDsts, etc...
 
2006-05-11 11:10:13 PM
RadioactiveApe: What makes one a real libertarian?

A real libertarian votes for libertarian candidates. Most of the jackasses around these parts SAY that they're libertarians, but vote for republicans. Liars, in other words.
 
2006-05-11 11:11:15 PM
cache.gawker.com

"Only the little people pay taxes."
 
2006-05-11 11:12:56 PM
Ok, it's Finland, not Norway, but this will give you an idea of the socialist leanings of the area.

Finland traffic ticket (pops)
 
2006-05-11 11:19:55 PM
lather

wow
 
2006-05-11 11:20:29 PM
Craptastic

A real libertarian votes for libertarian candidates. Most of the jackasses around these parts SAY that they're libertarians, but vote for republicans. Liars, in other words.


www.boxofficeprophets.com

Go ahead, throw your vote away.
 
2006-05-11 11:20:57 PM
lather


Lather was 30 years old today...


Do you have any toys left?
 
2006-05-11 11:21:21 PM
Rand was almost right... unfortunately she consistently confused "selfishness" with "enlightened self-interest."

/not quite the same thing
//"greed is good" only works if "greed" = "enlightened self-interest," btw.
 
2006-05-11 11:21:57 PM
heh. his company has made me tons of money. good for him. this guy is a shareholder's best friend, constantly giving profits from operations back to shareholders through regular and huge dividends...
 
2006-05-11 11:22:45 PM
From the article:

The 90-day rule was made to threaten Fredriksen back to Norway.

Anyone know what this 90-day rule is about? I'm going to have a search for it, but if anyone is in the know I'm quite curious.
 
2006-05-11 11:24:19 PM
RadioactiveApe:

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
 
2006-05-11 11:30:39 PM
Damned straight. If your country demands that you pay half your earnings to feed junkies and bums, it's time to find another country.
 
2006-05-11 11:33:21 PM
Does anyone else here thinks that Dagny Taggart was a frigid biatch?
 
2006-05-11 11:37:38 PM
Bete Noire
Anyone know what this 90-day rule is about? I'm going to have a search for it, but if anyone is in the know I'm quite curious.

From what I've been able to gather, it used to be that if you were a Norwegian citizen that lived and worked abroad, you could still spend up to 6 months per year in Norway without having to pay Norwegian taxes on the money you made abroad. They've now lowered it to only 90 days.
 
2006-05-11 11:44:45 PM
positronica

From what I've been able to gather, it used to be that if you were a Norwegian citizen that lived and worked abroad, you could still spend up to 6 months per year in Norway without having to pay Norwegian taxes on the money you made abroad. They've now lowered it to only 90 days.

Cheers, thanks for that. I'm now assuming Frederiksen had spent somewhere between three and six months a year in Norway previously.

Best I'd found so far was this:

You may stay an average of 90 days per year in Norway without becoming resident for tax purposes in Norway.
Reference

But if it is a recent change, it probably explains it.
 
2006-05-11 11:51:52 PM
Mumblin Achoo:
Nobody in their right mind wishes to be plundered of the honestly earned rewards of their efforts. That many believe in this system, with its taxation-funded political structure does not mean that everybody has fallen for the Big Lie*. For the rest of us, stealing just seems wrong, even when it is the government doing the stealing.

Cause lord know, being forced to pay your fair share is just like being robbed.
 
2006-05-11 11:53:50 PM
If I lived in a country that took 60-70% of my money for the sake of taxes, I'd leave too.

Oh, wait...

/I have to pay corporate taxes, too.
//every time I buy anything!
//There is, simply, too much government in the US.
 
2006-05-11 11:54:33 PM
lather:
Ok, it's Finland, not Norway, but this will give you an idea of the socialist leanings of the area.
Finland traffic ticket (pops)


The point of traffic tickets is to stop someone from speeding. If you get paid $1 million a year a $100 fine will not be the same deterent as someohe who makes $25,000 a year.

Since the point is to stop everyone from speeding, not just the poor people, charging fines as a percent of income makes a lot of sense.
 
2006-05-12 12:02:11 AM
ComicBookGuy

birking loses thread.


Maybe you haven't read Atlas Shrugged. It's about wealthy people refusing to shoulder a large tax burden and fleeing their native society. You know, just like this story.
 
2006-05-12 12:03:20 AM
JB-NoHo

Hm. If only we get some of the anti-tax crowd here to do that, and move permanently... us faggoty student commies would soon find outselves in the strange situation where, absent anyone to actually pay for our vicariously-funded benevolence, the worker's paradise would again fall on its ass

Completed.
 
2006-05-12 12:05:55 AM
EconAtheist

Could you explain in economic terms, rather than philosophy masquerading as economics?

Start with the economic definition of 'greed' ...
 
2006-05-12 12:07:07 AM
Mumblin Achoo: Nobody in their right mind wishes to be plundered of the honestly earned rewards of their efforts. That many believe in this system, with its taxation-funded political structure does not mean that everybody has fallen for the Big Lie*. For the rest of us, stealing just seems wrong, even when it is the government doing the stealing.

*Big Lie: There is no better way to run the world than the way we do it no


Trust me, the percentage you pay in taxes now is a mere shadow of what you'd have to pay for the services the government provides if you tried to replace them with the private sector. Some necessary services naturally preclude competition (it is nearly impossible for a city to have multiple road systems, for example) and the rates private corporations would charge for them would be downright extortionate. After all, since they could, and you'd have to pay, they'd be fools not to.

Not to mention, without taxes, how does one afford a military? If you plan to hire a mercenary force, good luck; be prepared for the time when they decide you're not paying enough and come to the negotiating table with guns. Some things just don't work out well when done for a profit motive, and some things work out far better when done collectively. I won't say government isn't bloated and a lot of money isn't wasted, but the idea that a modern technological society could operate without taxes is naive in the extreme.
 
2006-05-12 12:09:33 AM
From TFA: "'There are many who want to become Norwegian citizens,' the prime minister said. 'If John Fredriksen doesn't, it is not a problem. It doesn't bother me. He hasn't lived in Norway for several decades. He hasn't paid tax to Norway in several decades either.'

He wasn't paying taxes anyhow. Big loss for Norway.
 
2006-05-12 12:10:13 AM
I voted for a libertarian candidate in the last election. What do I win (besides a total lack of representation in the government)?
 
2006-05-12 12:12:50 AM
BrotherAlpha:
being forced to pay your fair share is just like being robbed.

If the man had been paying only his fair share, he might still be a Norwegian.

Of course, you could say that the disproportionately large taxes the rich pay are "fair," but that's a matter of opinion, and one suspects that you would adjust that opinion the instant you won the lottery.
 
2006-05-12 12:13:12 AM
"'There are many who want to become Norwegian citizens,' the prime minister said. 'If John Fredriksen doesn't, it is not a problem. It doesn't bother me. He hasn't lived in Norway for several decades. He hasn't paid tax to Norway in several decades either."

Someone's in denial.
 
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