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(AP)   A concrete staircase, the last above-ground remnant of the WTC, tops list of America's most endangered historic sites, followed closely by pretty much all of New Orleans   (news.yahoo.com ) divider line
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2006-05-10 03:12:50 PM  
I've never even heard of it. The staircase that is.
 
2006-05-10 03:14:19 PM  
I've never even heard of it. The staircase that is.

It's a series of boxes, staggered and in a raised formation, the purpose of which is to enable a person to either ascend or decend to another level in a structure.
 
2006-05-10 03:14:22 PM  
Stairway to Heaven.

/ mine will likely go the other way
 
2006-05-10 03:14:27 PM  
no stairway? denied!
 
fj
2006-05-10 03:14:27 PM  
OK, it's historic.

Now knock it down and rebuild those damn towers
 
2006-05-10 03:14:33 PM  
Aren't they building a "staircase to nowhere" in Times Square? They could just move this one up the street and be done with it.
 
2006-05-10 03:16:04 PM  
with my jock coming in a close third
 
2006-05-10 03:17:18 PM  
Why the hell would anybody care about the shotgun style houses in NOLA? The were a eyesore before the hurricane and no better today. I think these folks should have to live in one.
 
2006-05-10 03:17:37 PM  
I remember these!

Doo Wop Motels in Wildwood NJ.
www.preservationnj.org
 
2006-05-10 03:17:54 PM  
"Where does that staircase go?"

"It goes...up."

/obscure?
//not remotely obscure!
 
2006-05-10 03:18:13 PM  
"For people who got out of the building, it was by steps, so *the steps are very important to the people who lived," she said.

There, now it doesn't sound as dumb as I thought it was.
 
2006-05-10 03:18:42 PM  
To Sept. 11 survivor Patty Clark, the Trade Center staircase is "symbolic of all of us who were witnesses to that day. It's still strong, somewhat damaged, but that's kind of like we all are."

True. My tower has collapsed too.
 
2006-05-10 03:20:18 PM  
DslainteC

Actually, I think it's "Where do these stairs go?", but my memory may be bad.

/maybe, just maybe it's obscure.
//yeah, and maybe I'm a Chinese jet pilot.
 
2006-05-10 03:22:38 PM  
I think it is "Where do these stairs go?"

/Let's show this prehistoric biatch how we do things downtown.
 
2006-05-10 03:23:46 PM  
Watch Penn & Teller's "Bullsh*t!" episode on Ground Zero. Man, you'll be pissed off. F*cking politicians.
 
2006-05-10 03:24:10 PM  
Maddogjew: Why the hell would anybody care about the shotgun style houses in NOLA? The were a eyesore before the hurricane and no better today. I think these folks should have to live in one.

You doing a heck of a job lower social level exile, Brownie.
 
2006-05-10 03:28:03 PM  
Clavis

Watch Penn & Teller's "Bullsh*t!" episode on Ground Zero. Man, you'll be pissed off. F*cking politicians.

Couldn't agree more, I just saw that episode the other night.

I'm probably crazy, but I find that show to be one of the most informative on TV.
 
2006-05-10 03:30:57 PM  
To Sept. 11 survivor Patty Clark, the Trade Center staircase is "symbolic of all of us who were witnesses to that day. It's still strong, somewhat damaged, and happy to exploit its status as an innocent victim of circumstance to grab as much time in the media spotlight as possible, but that's kind of like we all are."

Reporter forgot to transcribe that middle part.
 
2006-05-10 03:36:10 PM  
BS. http://www.civilwar.org.

See it. Read it. Join me, Farkers!

(I work for CWPT. Not just 'cuz they pay me, but also because I believe so strongly in what we do.)
 
2006-05-10 03:36:16 PM  
Build a courtyard thingy around it? Rebuild AND preserve history at the same time!
 
2006-05-10 03:37:05 PM  
Dear Uzzah go fark yourself jackass.
 
2006-05-10 03:43:03 PM  
iamrobot wins the thread


Oh, and I don't see the problem here, Cut the Staircase out of the foundation and take it to a park somewhere. PROBLEM SOLVED!
 
2006-05-10 03:44:33 PM  
DslainteC: "Where does that staircase go?"

"It goes...up."

/obscure?
//not remotely obscure!


"It smells like barbequed dog hair."
 
2006-05-10 03:45:15 PM  
Phooey! Destroy it. Move on people...
 
2006-05-10 03:54:11 PM  
Uzzah

Careful, you are only allowed to pity those people, because they have identified themselves as victims and are therefore much superior to you.

/New York wasn't the only place where planes crashed
 
2006-05-10 03:54:40 PM  
As a native New Orleanian who just spent ten days there after an absence of three years, I can verify that the submitter's caption, though wry in its humor, isn't too very far off the mark.

Eighty percent of the geographic city largely unihabitable. Five thousand miles of underground sewage & drainage pipes crushed by the massive weight of water that sat there for a month or more. Water supply pipes so badly broken and leaking that supplying running water to the bit of the city that remains requires pumping a volume of water at pre-Katrina levels. In a city that's largely dependent upon tourism, an extremely dire shortage of people to fill the labor-intensive, minimum-wage jobs that tourism provides. Pumps that failed during a medium rain just two weeks ago. Electricity still sporadic in much of the city. Substantially all of the city's municipal vehicles destroyed. And more. Lots more.

It's going to take a huge effort, supported by many, many people and a huge amount of money, to keep New Orleans.
 
2006-05-10 03:59:52 PM  
gmstudio: It's a series of boxes, staggered and in a raised formation, the purpose of which is to enable a person to either ascend or decend to another level in a structure.

But that's not important right now.
 
2006-05-10 04:00:13 PM  
A couple friends just came back from NO, both with terrible coughs.
 
2006-05-10 04:01:39 PM  
Just put the staircase with the rest of the illegally cleared crime scene debris. Nobody really wants to examine the damn wreckage and debris to find out what really happened. We'll just do it like Bill Frist does, with videotape!
 
2006-05-10 04:03:40 PM  
Be advised, New Yorkers,

You have to watch the media very carefully every day to determine whether you are supposed to wear your Remember 911! hat or your OMFG!!!111 Teh TERRISTS, LOL!!1 hat.
 
2006-05-10 04:07:34 PM  
Nobody will miss Over-the-Rine in Cincinnati.
 
2006-05-10 04:15:46 PM  
Please consider Steven Jones' paper on the cause of the collapse.

No one has publicy refuted his results.
 
2006-05-10 04:17:50 PM  
Timon of Athens
/New York wasn't the only place where planes crashed

a friend from high school was killed at the Pentagon so I agree with that
/could see the WTC smoke from home
//was sitting outside that night freaked at how quiet it was without planes overhead
 
2006-05-10 04:24:14 PM  
There is nothing there but hate pain fear and death, why preserve it? Removing the painful reminders of tragedy seems like the best recourse for recovery... dwelling and obsessing over the trauma just caters to further isolationism and you sink deeper into the mire of your newly manufactured emotional distress... Don't let your deprivation schemata manifest this way, find something more productive, go plant a farking tree and quit driving like an asshole.
 
2006-05-10 04:26:20 PM  
But that's not important right now.

Har!
 
2006-05-10 04:29:31 PM  
cphuntington97: No one has publicy refuted his results.

How do you figure that? His explanation flies in the face of the experts who determined that the WTC collapsed do to a failure of the floor trusses to hold the structure together. That sounds like refuting his results to me.
 
2006-05-10 04:32:39 PM  
Please consider Steven Jones' paper on the cause of the collapse.

No one has publicy refuted his results.


I like the part, in his paper, where he proves that gravity did not cause objects to fall in the path of least resistance until Sept. 11, 2001.
 
2006-05-10 04:37:31 PM  
trueaustinite: I like the part, in his paper, where he proves that gravity did not cause objects to fall in the path of least resistance until Sept. 11, 2001.

Gravity is only a theory. Give me your address so I can send you my newsletter on "Intelligent Falling."
 
2006-05-10 04:45:28 PM  
i80.photobucket.com
 
2006-05-10 05:01:18 PM  
TheBigWhiteWolf: gmstudio: It's a series of boxes, staggered and in a raised formation, the purpose of which is to enable a person to either ascend or decend to another level in a structure.

But that's not important right now.


Surely you're joking!
 
2006-05-10 05:18:27 PM  
Theonceovertwice Aren't they building a "staircase to nowhere"

Is that anything like a ladder to heaven?

img134.imageshack.us
 
2006-05-10 05:31:34 PM  
cphuntington97: No one has publicy refuted his results.

Yaaayy! The conspiracy nuts are back.
 
2006-05-10 05:34:01 PM  
Radioactive Ass: Yaaayy! The conspiracy nuts are back.

Yeah, but it seems that they've lost their gusto.
 
2006-05-10 05:56:27 PM  
"Yeah, but it seems that they've lost their gusto."

its because theres nothing we can do...

all that has to be done, no matter what questions remain, is call everyone who apposes the administrations story as nutjobs and conspiracy theorists.

its alot like the reichstag fire.
 
2006-05-10 06:07:38 PM  
So I shouldn't have broken off that souvenir?
 
2006-05-10 06:10:32 PM  
MoreCowbell!: its because theres nothing we can do...

Sure you can. Make an argument based in fact and evidence.

all that has to be done, no matter what questions remain, is call everyone who apposes the administrations story as nutjobs and conspiracy theorists.

Opposing or supporting this administration has nothing to do with it. It happens to be that the experts clearly explained exactly how and why the towers fell, not to mention the Pentagon explosion. I've yet to hear any alternative conspiracy theories that were obviously supported by fact or evidence.
 
2006-05-10 06:10:56 PM  
Kenilworth, a northern suburb of Chicago, was chosen as an example of the intense development pressure to tear down early 20th century homes and replace them with what the group decries as hulking mansions.

To replace the hulking mansions from the early 20th century. Just because it looks pretty on the outside doesn't mean it's pretty on the inside. Get off my property, Moe!!
 
2006-05-10 06:24:51 PM  
MoreCowbell!: all that has to be done, no matter what questions remain, is call everyone who apposes the administrations story as nutjobs and conspiracy theorists.

its alot like the reichstag fire.



Godwin'd??
 
2006-05-10 06:29:12 PM  
"Sure you can. Make an argument based in fact and evidence."

you could rtfa( if it wasn't so long)

or if you've got the time you could watch this long ass movie www.loosechange911.com

or you could google 911 conspiracy.

you'll find all sorts off neat articles written by structural engineers and others explaining how a jet fuel fire would never have burned hot enough to melt steel.

you'll also find alot of interviews of new york city police officers and fire fighters who swear to hearing mutliple explosions throughout both buildings...

The truth is that nobody is really certain exactly what happened.

i won't pretend to know the details, but theres alot of questions still worth asking, and if the goverment is convering something up they certainly would release all the video footage of the crash into the pentagon, etc. etc.
 
2006-05-10 06:40:05 PM  
MoreCowbell!you could rtfa( if it wasn't so long)

It's been referred to before, and I have read the whole thing.

or if you've got the time you could watch this long ass movie www.loosechange911.com

I wasted plenty of time on both versions of that thing. Neither is based on fact.

or you could google 911 conspiracy.

Trust me, I have.

you'll find all sorts off neat articles written by structural engineers and others explaining how a jet fuel fire would never have burned hot enough to melt steel.

Nobody claims that the jet fuel melted steel. It was the ensuing furnace under the rubble that burned for weeks that caused the metal to be red hot. Nobody has ever shown that any melted steel was found. Only red hot metal, which could easily have been aluminum.

you'll also find alot of interviews of new york city police officers and fire fighters who swear to hearing mutliple explosions throughout both buildings...

Pancaking floors made sounds that may have lead these people to believe they heard multiple explosions, but seismic records show there weren't any additional explosions.

The truth is that nobody is really certain exactly what happened.

Well, maybe not exactly, but we have a very good theory as to what happened and it makes complete sense to anyone who has spent the time to understand the structure and forces that brought those buildings down.

i won't pretend to know the details, but theres alot of questions still worth asking, and if the goverment is convering something up they certainly would release all the video footage of the crash into the pentagon, etc. etc.

Why do you need footage of the crash into the pentagon? If you didn't have footage of planes crashing into the WTC, would you doubt how they were damaged? There is all the evidence necessary to show how the plane struck the Pentagon. We don't need any more evidence to make this clear.
 
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