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(Yahoo)   Tonight the part of the red-headed, peg-legged, left-handed stepchild was played by the Yankees. Boston over NY 14 - 3   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 47
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2006-05-10 03:30:03 AM
haha... Yankees suck.

/go sox
 
2006-05-10 04:26:40 AM
submitter wins the internets for all times.

/left handed
 
2006-05-10 07:05:22 AM
Oh wow, congrats, your team won *a* game. Let me know when the victory parades start.
 
2006-05-10 07:27:17 AM
Yipeeee!!! That win TOTALLY makes up for the 26-6 World Series Champhionship edge the Yankees have on the Sux.

/Red Sox Suck.
 
2006-05-10 07:35:56 AM
TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Yankees

L O S E!


/hates the play by play guy whenever the Yankees win
//Devil Rays Fan
///Yes, I know we really, really suck
 
2006-05-10 07:56:58 AM
I didnt realize Randy Johnson had red hair...

/Knew about the peg leg though
 
2006-05-10 08:27:06 AM
Are Yankee fans concerned about Randy Johnson's performance so far this year? Last night was the first time I really watched him, and he did not look like a 1 or 2 starter, more like a 4 or 5.
Have most of his starts looked this bad, or was this a one time deal?
 
2006-05-10 08:48:50 AM
noise77

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He's 5-3, but he's allowed five or more runs his last three starts, and walked 11 while only fanning 9. To be fair, only two of his runs were earned last night, you can thank A-Rod(twice) and Cabrera(n00b) for that. The other two starts were wins because the Yanks scored 27 combined runs. NY scores on average 11+ runs when he wins, and just above 3 otherwise.

If he's doing this mid-August, then we hit the panic button.
 
2006-05-10 08:58:43 AM
i29.photobucket.com
 
2006-05-10 09:03:04 AM
Yeah, I'm sure if the MFY had kicked the Sox ass last night by putting two touchdowns on the board, Yanks fans wouldn't be rubbing it in at all. Why, I can't even fathom the the sight of a Yankee fan rubbing salt in a Red Sox wound with a belt sander. Perish the thought.

The real story of last night's game was that Beckett was as good as advertised, keeping his composure after another rought first inning, while Johnson looked like complete sh*t and didn't make it out of the fourth. It was also nice to see Aaron Small's contract with Satan finally expired.
 
2006-05-10 09:08:18 AM
Winter
I should've stated that I've seen his stats and his (before last night's game) 5-2 record, 5.02 ERA, but didn't know if he has looked this bad. I know Melky and ARod pretty much handed the Sox the game, but Johnson was doing everything he could to give the game away(almost half of his pitches were balls).
 
2006-05-10 09:09:10 AM
And how professional it was of Mike Vaccaro and hordes of Yankee fans screaming for Johnson to throw at Ortiz's chin.

If Papi had gotten hit in the head with a fastball and taken to the hospital, I'm 100% sure that Mr. Vacarro would have been more concerned with his well-being and health rather than the advantage it would have given his team, especially after advocating throwing at him in a column like that.

You stay classy, Mike.
 
2006-05-10 09:18:33 AM
halo78

turnabout...fair play...

Yeah, yeah... it'd still be just one game if the roles were reversed, though, IMHO. I'd only go all-out if it were a playoff game, against Schilling - loudmouth who needs to be taken down a peg, also IMHO.


And how professional it was of Mike Vaccaro and hordes of Yankee fans screaming for Johnson to throw at Ortiz's chin.


All I've heard since that article ran is Yankee fans dissociating themselves from that asshat columnist. Ortiz is a class act, with the exception of that one outburst before he joined up with the Sawks.

Oh, and Aaron Small already got his first loss a week ago or so. At Boston. Had to happen sometime, but yeah, he keeps pitching like this and he's going to be demoted.
 
2006-05-10 09:20:05 AM
noise, his next start, he goes 7+ innings, strikes out 8+, and allows no more than two runs. Bank on it.
 
2006-05-10 09:38:21 AM
The best part of the game was when those classy, ultra loyal Yankee fans I'm always hearing about booed Randy Johnson on his way off the field. I also enjoyed how that park was empty by the 7th inning.

And can someone explain to me why, when the Yankees win, it's some kind of achievement? They spend $74 million dollars more than the Red Sox, and they're second on the payroll list! Shouldn't they win, like, all the time?

Isn't it more of a story that they spend all this money, can have any player they want, and haven't won a World Series in five seasons?
 
2006-05-10 09:52:47 AM
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"his next start, he goes 7+ innings, strikes out 8+, and allows no more than two runs. Bank on it."

What about any of his starts this year would lead someone to believe that he will have his good stuff on his next start. I'd say he's showing his age. How long can you contort a 7-foot frame into a 95 mph pitching motion and stay healthy?
 
2006-05-10 09:57:33 AM
Wintermute: Oh wow, congrats, your team won *a* game. Let me know when the victory parades start.


actually two, as in this year Red Sox 2, Yankees 0

no parades yet, but we're felling pretty good up here depite the weather, thanks for the positive thoughts
 
2006-05-10 10:21:28 AM
i'm a yankee fan, was at the game, watched in horror.

look.

when bernie williams gets himself ejected, you know something's going terribly terribly wrong.
 
2006-05-10 10:26:45 AM
Nice job, priestrape, with the condescending post, assuming fans don't know the difference between what a player is actually worth and what an organization can afford to pay him. Don't forget, the Sawks have a history of losing to discount budget teams in the playoffs, as well.

Also, everyone leaves after a blowout like that except the drunkest of the diehards.

Five years isn't that long to go without a title. It should be pointed out that, in the modern era, their stretch winning 4 out of 5 looks that much more impressive, don't you think?

michaelgvh, huh? I don't own Wintermute.com, whatever that is. Yes, I know he's getting old, but he still has shown he can dominate at times. Is it that far of a reach to think he won't recover from his latest slump, really?

swanky, the season is quite young so far, I thought you guys didn't count chickens pre-hatch?
 
2006-05-10 10:32:08 AM
Wintermute

Five years isn't that long to go without a title.

Considering they outspend their closest rival by $70 million? Yes - it's an eternity. They can have any player they want every year, and they still don't win.

It should be pointed out that, in the modern era, their stretch winning 4 out of 5 looks that much more impressive, don't you think?

No, I don't. I'll say it again: The Yankees outspend most teams by over $100 million, and they outspend their closest rival by $70 million. Ergo, it is not that much of an accomplishment when...gasp...all that extra money makes you better than other teams. If anything, it's a disgrace that they don't win more often.
 
2006-05-10 10:45:42 AM
So, lessee, the gap between the two east coast spendthrifts is $8 million more than the A's entire payroll? And those teams, combined, pay out more than 5 times what the A's pay? And Oakland took 2 out of three from them Yankers to open the season?

Was there ever a better name for a Yank GM than Cashman? What is that guy doing?

In summary: Beaneball! Give our Billy that bankroll and his teams would go undefeated.
 
2006-05-10 10:46:44 AM
priestrape
No, I don't. I'll say it again: The Yankees outspend most teams by over $100 million, and they outspend their closest rival by $70 million. Ergo, it is not that much of an accomplishment when...gasp...all that extra money makes you better than other teams. If anything, it's a disgrace that they don't win more often.

geez, I'm a mets fan, and even I can admit that when they were winning world championships the yanks weren't outspending teams by $100 million. did they have one of the highest paryolls? yup. but if I'm not mistaken, their spending during the first years of their run was comparable, if not less than, other teams.

those yanks from 96-01 were completely about chemistry (and mariano rivera). I would say that probably only that '98 team was truly "the best" in baseball, but all of their world series teams played like champions when championships were on the line.

I think 2002 was really the first year their payroll began increasing to cartoon-like levels. they began collecting talent as opposed to building a team, and though they've made it to october each time, you've seen the results.

/can't believe I just defended the yanks
 
2006-05-10 10:48:14 AM
Cardinal
In summary: Beaneball! Give our Billy that bankroll and his teams would go undefeated.

just like glen sather, right?
 
2006-05-10 10:49:07 AM
priestrape

They can have any player they want every year, and they still don't win.

If they could have any player they wanted, they could just pick and choose from last year's all-star teams every year, right? That's why they have Pujols at first, Brian Roberts at second, Bonds, Guerrero, and Ichiro in the outfield, and Barry Zito, Clemens, Pedro, Tim Hudson, and Chris Carpenter in the rotation.

Oh, wait...

..all that extra money makes you better than other teams.

AFAIK, they really started power-spending AFTER their title run. Unless you have statistics to prove your point?

This is all moot anyway, the fact that you're blaming the Yankees for the flawed non-capped system used by the MLB shows that you're being completely intellectually dishonest. If you want to discuss how much better a salary cap would be for the game, I'd love to.
 
2006-05-10 10:53:32 AM
I'm not blaming the Yankess for anything, Wintermute. I'm just saying it's laughable that they've been such a flop after spending a billion dollars since the turn of the century.

I like the system.
 
2006-05-10 10:57:23 AM
Not winning titles = flop?

How did you guys live with yourselves last century?

:)

/yes, I know NY needs a better GM
 
2006-05-10 10:58:58 AM
Jesus Christ, Wintermute. Do I have to repeat myself again?

Yes...not winning titles, when you outspend most teams by $100 million, is laughable. How can you not see that?
 
2006-05-10 11:04:42 AM
Despite the protestations of that used car salesdoofus who runs The Game, the Yanks are Exhibit A for why baseball doesn't need a salary cap. Small market teams Can win the title, and Hating the Yankees puts fannies in seats all around the league. It is undeniably electric at the old yard when they come to town.

Even beyond the Yanks, there hasn't been much of a correlation between payroll and team success in recent years. I haven't run the Bill James numbers, but payroll has not been a good predictor of W/L records. Cf. the A's, Twins, Indians and Marlins.
 
2006-05-10 11:05:03 AM
Because the money itself isn't an issue, it's who it's being spent on that pisses me off sometimes. Which has long been my point. They're paying Pavano ridiculous sums of money to be injured, last year Kevin Brown and Wright were in the same situation, and the little guys came through - Chacon, Small, Cano, all three unheard of, underpaid, practically saved the season.

It's the players, not the money.
 
2006-05-10 11:08:47 AM
It's the players, not the money.

True...as the Yankees have proven...but only to a certain extent.

You can spend loads of money and still not be good enough to win.

But you can't spend at the very bottom of the league, and still win. Only Billy Beane has consistently come close.
 
2006-05-10 11:09:48 AM
haplo: Not knowing much hawky, I have no idea--but I see your point.

I do know the A's have a system, and they work it. When we get our new $outh Bay stadium and can loosen the strings a bit, it'll be interesting to see how that translates into W's and L's.
 
2006-05-10 11:15:44 AM
I just get sick of the payroll getting mentioned in tandem with NY's "drought", by people who don't realize that we farking KNOW our GM/Owner combo needs a bit more brains than brawn. But, I think many Yankee fans would agree with you.

The whole "we're more critical of our own team than anyone else" syndrome isn't really confined to NYC, if you browse Syracuse fan boards you see some really hot shiat as far as that goes. Hell, people were calling for Boeheim's resignation after losing to A&M this past March.
 
2006-05-10 11:26:42 AM
It's the statistical random factor in baseball that makes it so intriguing--and exasperating. When a great player fails 2-out-of-3-times, and a mediocre player fares only slightly worse, you just can't easily predict what will happen.

I think that accounts for the Yankees' drought, and the A's' as well: in a 162-game season, The System will work, whether it's buying the best talent or playing Moneyball.

The playoffs, however, are a complete crapshoot. Getting there is still key--sets up its own larger sample, but you just can't tell what will happen, and everybody starts out with a 1/8 chance.
 
2006-05-10 11:27:32 AM
new-york-mets.visit-new-york-city.com
 
2006-05-10 12:38:43 PM
Cue the Whambulance, its a Yankees, Red Sox Thread.
 
2006-05-10 01:06:49 PM
Right now the Sox taking Lowell along w/ Beckett is starting to look like a blessing in disguise. He's leading the league in doubles and hitting .339 at the "bargain" price of 9 million. How is his 25 million dollar a season counterpart doing over there in NY ... ? Hitting .259 and committing 2 errors in one game against their fiercest competitors. A-Rod for MVP! He plays defense!

The Sox have a more potent offense than NY (again) and their pitching is better this year than last while NY's hasn't improved a lick. Boston is taking the A.L. East this season.

/rabid Red Sox fan
//mention Big Papi's average
///then look at his power numbers
 
2006-05-10 01:26:24 PM
The Drawing Board

Just the facts:

The Yankees are 5th in team ERA, and lead Boston in nearly every offensive category.

Oh, and Giambi's power numbers are slightly better than Papi's.
 
2006-05-10 02:14:12 PM
"The Yankees are 5th in team ERA, and lead Boston in nearly every offensive category.

Oh, and Giambi's power numbers are slightly better than Papi's."

Yet the egg-suckers still find a way to lose, impressive.
 
2006-05-10 02:30:19 PM
At least NY hasn't dropped 5 of 8 to Toronto.

/lol
 
2006-05-10 02:33:42 PM
-Wintermute

Top to bottom the Red Sox order is more potent than NY, stats schmats. The Sox haven't had their leadoff hitter, Ortiz is slumping, and Manny is just heating up. The all mighty stats will change.

The Yanks could be first in team ERA for all I care, their pitching hasnt placed them a cut above the rest of the league. The Red Sox, on the other hand, improved their pitching in the off season. They picked up Beckett, Schilling got healthy, and they now have a reliable closer in Papelbon. All NY did was get a little bit older.

I'll admit that Giambi is having a great year thus far. His body seems to have finally adapted to not having the benefit of steroids. Now is has the honor of being an overpaid (20 mil this year) productive member of the Yankees.

Just look at the standings, pay real close attention to them because the 1 game lead Boston has right now is about to start growing.
 
2006-05-10 02:57:16 PM
Heh, but of course, statistics can't measure "potency". How naive of me to forget.

Bottom line, the Yankees are pitching and hitting better than the Bosox so far.

Giambi's leading the team in power numbers, how's he underpaid?

Last year around this time, NY was 15 games under .500 - and still won the division, thanks in part to the pitching of three guys nobody had ever heard of before, guys who replaced the battered rotation and performed better than the regulars. So the Sox can go as much as three games up? Big deal.
 
2006-05-10 03:12:18 PM
I said Giambi's overpaid, but no matter.

The Yankees TIED for first in the A.L. East. The tie-breaker is a technicality.

The big deal is this: The Red Sox have a one-two punch in the starting rotation and an effective closer which they didnt have in '05 yet they still tied the Yankees for the top spot in the East. Last time the Sox had a one-two punch in the rotation and an effective closer was 2004. Care to recap what happened that season for me?

This year is different. The Sox aren't any where near as vulnerable as they were in 2005.
 
2006-05-10 03:51:43 PM
Overpaid. Yeah. shiat, I'm tired...

New York's pitching staff last year was Johnson, Mussina, and beyond that, guys like Wang, Chacon, and Small who were filling in for the constantly injured and overpaid Brown, Pavano, and Wright. I'm still amazed that NY was even able to come back after what they went through.

Last year, Boston had the best offense in the majors, Foulke was shaky and Timlin was mediocre, but they didn't really need them most of the year because they were too busy destroying other teams' pitching.

As far as the 2004 club, you forget that the Sox had a MUCH better bullpen. Myers, Timlin, Kim, Mendoza, and Foulke. They also had five starters with more wins than losses, with a highest ERA of five and a half, and a very healthy offense. If you look closely there are plenty of differences, so don't get too excited. Schilling's getting old, too, and he's off to a good start, but don't be surprised if he levels off.
 
2006-05-10 04:23:32 PM
I was amazed that NY came back last year as well. They have been digging themselves in deeper holes it seems every season. Then unexpected heroes save the day. You alluded to NY's front office being terrible and I couldn't agree more. The teams they have put together recently are not even close to the same dynamic they had during their last Golden Era. NY needs to find another approach to building a team instead of buying the shiny item at the check-out counter.

I subscribe to you that this year the Sox will yet again have the best offense in the majors. Francona has too many weapons and a variety of line-ups he can throw at opposing pitchers. Just look at what the bottom half of the line up has produced over the last 4 or 5 games.

The Sox 2004 club did have a better bullpen, however this year's staff is certainly better than '05's. Timlin is back to top form, Foulke is coming around, and Papelbon is a beast. I hate Tavares and granted they are lacking a lefty I am still confident that the Boy Wonder will come up something to fill that hole.

It is possible for Schilling to level off but I think it is more likely that Johnson gets hurt. That thin 6' 10" frame is more likely to break down than Schillings, IMO.

Either way it is going to be another great season. My biased admittedly biased opinion is that the Sox have the tools this year to take the A.L. East crown.
 
2006-05-10 04:31:21 PM
Winter

Kim and Mendoza? They didn't play in the postseason and either sucked or were hurt for most of that year. Other than the two guys you mentioned, I believe Embree was the only one who was on the roster for the whole year.
For most of the year, the rest of the pitchers rode the Pawtucket to Boston shuttle.
 
2006-05-10 04:41:02 PM
Trading Arroyo for a slightly above average outfielder was quite the bonehead move, though. That right there could mean the difference between taking the AL East and having to fight to get the wildcard.

As for the Yankees, I don't know. I hate throwing out predictions this early, but with the exception of Small and Sturtze, that bullpen has been tight. They're better than they were last night, by magnitudes. Should be an interesting race, to say the least.
 
2006-05-10 11:27:08 PM
I was at that game, sitting up in the nosebleeds. Holy crap was that a crazy game....
 
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