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(JSOnline)   The story of how the "dirty bomber" was captured.   (jsonline.com) divider line 46
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2002-06-11 09:46:48 AM  
Suuuure he was going to detonate a dirty bomb. *wag* *wag*
 
2002-06-11 10:26:17 AM  
Well, I'm just glad to see that our intelligence community was really on the ball with this guy. Kudos to them.
 
2002-06-11 02:23:41 PM  
Newsflash: From now on, every crackpot with a half baked plan to do something dangerous will be arrested, even if there is no way in hell your plan could ever come to fruition. You have been warned.
 
2002-06-11 02:26:16 PM  
Not to say this asshat wasn't planning something but...

...doesn't this all sound a lot like the dossier of Lee Harvey Oswald?
 
2002-06-11 02:26:42 PM  
Is it just me, or does the phrase "dirty bomber" sound like a German scheisse film with Cartman's mom?

Probably just me.
 
2002-06-11 02:26:58 PM  
Speaking of "dirty bomb's" I gotta go drop a deuce because my stomach is getting warm.
 
2002-06-11 02:27:25 PM  
Well, I'm just glad that they decided to hold onto him for a month before revealing him, especially when the Administration was being hammered as being careless.
 
2002-06-11 02:28:59 PM  
I'm wondering why they didn't trail him longer after he hit the States.
 
2002-06-11 02:32:29 PM  
I dropped a dirty bomb this morning.

Don't go in the bathroom for 'bout an hour.
 
2002-06-11 02:40:44 PM  
Well I guess we know his name isn't Jose Einstein?
 
2002-06-11 02:40:44 PM  
Here's a quote straight from the article:

Padilla was described by one former neighbor in Chicago as ``so quiet, so nice.'' Nicknamed ``Pucho'' as a teen-ager, he enjoyed basketball and video games with his friends.

Padilla was convicted at 15 as a juvenile of aggravated battery, armed robbery and attempted armed robbery. A law enforcement official said he was in custody there between November 1985 and May 1988.


Nice and quiet my arse!
 
2002-06-11 02:41:34 PM  
i hope they dont arrest the OTHER Jose Padilla, or i'll be pissed. that guy has great chill house music.
 
2002-06-11 02:43:38 PM  
So this "dirty bomb", does it blow pr0n all over the place or what?
 
Ash
2002-06-11 02:45:00 PM  
Lets give the dirty bomber a shower. A mustard gas shower.
 
2002-06-11 02:45:48 PM  
Does anyone else get the idea that al Queda set this guy up as a decoy?
 
2002-06-11 02:52:05 PM  
Does anyone else get the idea Bush set this guy up as a scapegoat.
 
2002-06-11 02:52:53 PM  
**YAWN**
 
2002-06-11 02:53:14 PM  
Officials said the plot got only as far as the planning stage and they said there was no indication Padilla had access to nuclear materials. Undersecretary of State John Bollton indicated Padilla was carrying plans for the attack when he was picked up in Chicago.
 
2002-06-11 02:56:26 PM  
The investigation went like this:

Ashcroft - 'Prez' we need to do something, people are thinking we weren't on our toes in Sept.

GWB - 'Yeah and my ratings are dropping.'

Ashcroft - 'Let's find some dirty Arab and toss him in the clink for about a zillion years.'

GWB -'John, what an excellent idea'.
 
2002-06-11 02:59:14 PM  
No, seriously. It strikes me as a little farfetched that these people in captivity would voluntarily give up their guys.
 
2002-06-11 03:00:44 PM  
So now any US citizen can be arrested, er, "detained" without any rights for any reason for any length of time. I don't see how this could go wrong.
 
Ash
2002-06-11 03:03:17 PM  
Oddly enough Darkmayo, at the time of the unibombers capture I was fairly certain that the FBI picked some bum to take the rap. They had no idea who the unibomber was and he was hitting the papers pretty hard around that time, so they grabbed some schmuck to take off the heat. I was pretty sure the bombings would pick up again soon after and they'd call it copycat attacks. Looks like I was wrong ;). While I have no doubt that our government is filled with thieves and lairs, perhaps they aren't as stupid as we believe them to be and this guy (like the unibomber) was actually up to no good.
 
2002-06-11 03:04:49 PM  
Boojieboy, that was my thinking, too.

Also I doubt they would have trusted an American to carry out such a plan (I imagine that a dirty bomb, if they could get their hands on one, ain't cheap).
 
2002-06-11 03:07:16 PM  
HAHA voluntarily.. he was tortured and drugged and all sorts of neat things where done to him.. Not that I care
 
2002-06-11 03:07:59 PM  
Beside, Al Queda knew/knows the wisdom of having redundant systems in place. Just like 9-11: multiple hijackings, even if one is foiled, others will succeed.
 
2002-06-11 03:09:57 PM  
May 8, people. Dude was captured May 8.

Over a month ago.

And we're hearing about it now.

It's what we call a fifth or sixth attempt to distract the people from the problems with Bush.
 
2002-06-11 03:10:07 PM  
And I don't think that these guys are going to fold under the types of torture that our interrogators are allowed to use. I.E. no rough stuff, just sleep deprivation, rough shaking a la the Mossad, cold, etc. The Al Queda guys were trained to withstand these things.
 
2002-06-11 03:10:56 PM  
Ash:

Actually, despite all the efforts of the FBI, the Unibomber was only caught after he was turned in by his own brother.
 
2002-06-11 03:14:25 PM  
They were taking Cipro before you heard about Anthrax:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/1060.shtml
 
Ash
2002-06-11 03:16:26 PM  
That's true Number_twenty3.. I forgot that part. I had a conspiracy theory laid out for that (hey, I was in school at the time with nothing better to do ;) ) and never got back to it because the bombings stopped and screwed my theory. Ok maybe they are as stupid as we think they are. Let that man out of the camp! ;)
 
2002-06-11 03:23:43 PM  
If nothing else, the Al Quaida would have to be complete idiots to actually use this guy in an operation.

(1) American citizen
(2) multiple felon
(3) converts to Islam in prison
(4) has travelled in Pakistan region

Like he's not going to stick out like a sore thumb?
 
dio
2002-06-11 03:29:07 PM  
During WWII, the German spies were caught and executed before they were able to do anything. They were turned in by one of the spies who had seconds thoughts. Even he was executed. Why should this guy be any different? Get whatever info he might have, take him outside, shoot him, and send a bill for the bullet to the frozen bank accounts.
 
maz
2002-06-11 03:31:47 PM  
Padilla was described by one former neighbor in Chicago as ``so quiet, so nice.''

Isn't this how most serial killers are described by their former neighbors? Dahmer comes to mind...
 
2002-06-11 03:39:38 PM  
Boojieboy:

I'll bet this is another reason they are holding these guys in Cuba. The torture is less a legal issue there. I too was wondering exactly how they got Zubaydeh to give up his boy. Odds of it being kosher are pretty slim.
Glad they got him, of course, but I think they ought to own up to the torture.
 
2002-06-11 03:56:34 PM  
Dirty Bomb.. Is that anything like a Dirty Sanchez.. or a Rusty Trombone?
 
ESH
2002-06-11 05:08:46 PM  
'Dirty Bomb' ... Somehow, the news folks need to change that name. I was switching between FOX NEWS and CNN most of the morning and all these anchors saying that stupid word over and over started to sound really dumb. Dirty Dumb.
 
ESH
2002-06-11 05:17:51 PM  
God, that even sounds retarded. What was I thinking?
 
2002-06-11 05:34:33 PM  
... Is anyone else somewhat frightened that though he is a US citizen, he's been transfered to the Department of Defense and is being held as an enemy soldier? (I'm pretty sure that's right. It may not be in this article, though). ... What about basic rights? And all of you who will say "Well, he's a potential terrorist, he doesn't deserve rights"... WTF?? He hasn't been found guilty of anything yet! That's like saying an accused rapist doesn't deserve a right to a trial, or that his testimony shouldn't be believed because he's a rapist.
What the hell happened to innocent until proven guilty?
 
2002-06-11 06:55:05 PM  
Read Ex Parte Quirinhttp://www.law.uchicago.edu/tribunals/docs/usvcox.pdf Some of the German sabateurs were US citizens and yet were summarily tried by a military tribunal. Durtzy Sanchez can still petition the court for habeus corpus so it's not like this will have been a unilateral decision on the part of the President to detain him. They don't even plan on trying him by this method..just detaining him until the thread of the dirty bomb has passed.
 
2002-06-11 06:56:39 PM  
Cataholic:

Did you say Dirty Sanchez?
 
2002-06-11 07:05:58 PM  
I tried to. My typing sucks tonight.
 
2002-06-11 07:14:41 PM  
06-11-02 03:04:49 PM Gator8387
Boojieboy, that was my thinking, too.

Also I doubt they would have trusted an American to carry out such a plan (I imagine that a dirty bomb, if they could get their hands on one, ain't cheap).


Gator, I think that the fact that he is an American citizen is the reason they wanted to use him. Our intelligence agencies are much more on the ball in post 9/11 world (at least I like to think so, no additional domestic attacks since), any Arab who tries to come into this country will definitely get the ole shakedown. An American citizen might have better luck sneaking into the country undetected.
 
2002-06-11 08:20:06 PM  
"During WWII, the German spies were caught and executed before they were able to do anything."

During WWII we had a declared War against Germany.

Congress has declared war on noone and nothing presently.
 
2002-06-11 08:52:24 PM  
1. What evidence do you paranoid fvcks have that says a man planning this kind of attack wasn't caught?

2. Why should the US release info that they've caught a terrorist right away? The government has to process, determine possible contacts, interrogate the prisoner, etc. Why should the general public be let in on top secret information like that? No matter when they released this information, you'd still be saying it's a Bush cover-up.

Oh, and if you turn this into another "The United States committed terrorism in WWII! Congress hasn't declared war!" thread, I will do things to you. Bad things that neither of us will like.
 
2002-06-11 08:59:32 PM  
ahahahahahaha
 
2002-06-12 10:01:24 AM  
Jose "Pucho" Padilla.

To quote Fb-, "Those damn Arabs...."
 
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