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2006-05-05 02:03:05 PM
That is stupid; it would ostensibly save a lot of people from liver disease and other drinking-related illnesses.

Lawmakers need to worry about things of actual consequence, not matters of personal choice for adults.
 
2006-05-05 04:08:57 PM
All other problems solved? well they had to do something then.
 
2006-05-05 05:30:34 PM
I blame old people.

1. Old people don't like it when others get high because it scares them, like loud music and computers.
2. Old people vote more than young people.
3. Hence, politicians outlaw fun drugs and paraphenalia to get more votes.

/I think I'm joking..
 
2006-05-05 06:53:33 PM
serpent_sky: it would ostensibly save a lot of people from liver disease and other drinking-related illnesses.

How? The liver filters out toxins from the bloodstream. Inhaling alcohol is just a faster way to get it into the bloodstream. The only thing it might do is lessen the instance of dietary-tract disorders among users.

Since people can get drunker much faster, I suspect that the incidence of alcohol poisoning and death from overuse will increase.
 
2006-05-05 07:49:38 PM
Oh yeah, i'd MUCH rather have alcohol permeate my lungs, what with all the damage i've seen them do to the liver.

REAL smart, guys... ever tried smoking out of a bong with alcohol instead of water? Try it sometime, its LOADS OF FUN!!!
 
2006-05-05 07:51:29 PM
"What I need is a droid that understands
the binary language of alcohol vaporators."
www.geocities.com
 
2006-05-05 07:52:25 PM
Why do Minnesota lawmakers hate freedom?
 
2006-05-05 07:54:19 PM
They're going to ban women from frat parties?
 
2006-05-05 07:54:40 PM
Lets see that law passed in Mass & RI.
 
2006-05-05 07:55:52 PM
I think this is stupid too. But I'll tell you a secret. The fastest, best way to get drunk is to get a syringe and inject it directly into your veins. So if you can't stand drinking (you know, the old and busted way to consume alcohol), and you can't inhale it, you might as well mainline it.

Really, if you think this is stupid, inject liquor. What's the difference? Quicker and faster, isn't that the real reason behind the vaporizer?
 
2006-05-05 07:57:54 PM
Quick, everybody go out and try it before it's illegal.
 
2006-05-05 07:57:58 PM
Just another case of "let's take a harmful product with a small user base and get national attention for it by making it illegal" This vaporizer sounds like a terrible idea, but now i'm curious and have to try it... Damn You Minnasota!

/I wish they would go ahead an schedule salvia
//it would be much easier to get if it became a street drug
 
2006-05-05 07:58:07 PM
If they don't ban vaporizing alcohol someone's going to park one of these babies next to an elementary school and get 7 year old kids drunk while they try and learn handwritting.

Really what is it with you Farkers? Freedom comes with responsibility.
 
2006-05-05 07:59:17 PM
ubermensch

I don't think anybody's ever acquired HIV or Hep-C from sharing an inhaler.
 
2006-05-05 07:59:27 PM
This is the dumbest idea ever. Why would anyone want to inhale alcohol? It gets me drunker faster. Whoopti-frickin-doo! So would an alcohol enema. Me, I like the taste, and I know what it does to me when I drink it, and how much I drink.

The article's author is stupid, too.

"And the law wouldn't prohibit the ingestion of vaporized alcohol; if so, flaming brandy and cognac would have to be outlawed."

Right because the alcohol isn't oxidized, it's vaporized. And as everyone knows you're supposed to inhale the fumes from your cherries jubilee. Farktard!

/Get off my lawn!
 
2006-05-05 07:59:49 PM
Scooby's'pawn: How? The liver filters out toxins from the bloodstream. Inhaling alcohol is just a faster way to get it into the bloodstream. The only thing it might do is lessen the instance of dietary-tract disorders among users.

Theoretically, vaporized alcohol contains fewer of the other toxins found in liquor, toxins that result from the production methods (charred barrels, etc)
 
2006-05-05 08:01:18 PM
What's the big deal? If drinking alcohol doesn't get it into your bloodstream fast enough why screw around with inhaling it? Hook up an IV, pop a vein, and set the drip to whatever you want it to be.

Meanwhile, I'll be sitting back drinking a Dirty Bastard Scotch Ale (or, even better, a homebrewed beer) watching what transpires. When you drop over dead from alcohol poisoning I'll be the first to toast to your stupidity.

/I like the taste of alcohol
//I Don't understand why people would want to inhale their alcohol.
 
2006-05-05 08:02:26 PM
it would ostensibly save a lot of people from liver disease and other drinking-related illnesses.

NO it would NOT. It's a deliverly method! Alcohol is still metabolized by the liver now matter how it enters the body. It might reduce stomic ulcers perhaps.

Reguardless it should not be banned outright. Without knowing anything about it this strikes me as a way of "freebasing" alcohol much like doing a like a coke for an instant high. It may in fact make alcohol more addictive however I could also reduce drunk driving since the alcohol may leave your system much faster. It's certainly a novel idea.
 
2006-05-05 08:02:45 PM
Bluegill
It gets me drunker faster. Whoopti-frickin-doo! So would an alcohol enema.

Last time I checked, bars weren't too keen on you dropping your shorts and pouring a martini in your ass. Last time I checked. (I'll check again when the restraining order expires.)

Me, I like the taste, and I know what it does to me when I drink it, and how much I drink.

Sooo...you like it, therefore everybody likes it?
 
2006-05-05 08:03:58 PM
Alcohol and pure oxygen. To hell with the drunkenness question, lets just pray they're not smoking. Talk about rocket fuel.
 
2006-05-05 08:05:00 PM
The fastest way to get drunk outside of vapors and injecting...

Buttshots!!!!! Woot!!!
 
2006-05-05 08:06:36 PM
So are the lawmakers acting too soon? Perhaps -- but no faster than the vaporized alcohol does.

"He thought he was a wit, and he was half right."
-- Henri Arnold
 
2006-05-05 08:07:13 PM
http://www.awolusa.com/

Turns out that it actually takes 20 minutes to inhale 1/2 a normal shot of alcohol... The machine does mix the vaporized alcohol with oxygen, which is basically like combining an oxygen bar with a normal bar... This device isn't nearly at irresponsible as this article makes it sound...

at $299/unit, i don't see myself trying this any time soon...
 
2006-05-05 08:07:23 PM
The Evil Home Brewer: What's the big deal? If drinking alcohol doesn't get it into your bloodstream fast enough why screw around with inhaling it? Hook up an IV, pop a vein, and set the drip to whatever you want it to be.

Because there are far more hazards involved with IV drug usage?

Some people might not like the taste of alcohol. Why limit them?
 
Jaq
2006-05-05 08:08:03 PM
lelio:

you're joking, right?
 
2006-05-05 08:08:34 PM
bubbaprog

Not really. The method of delivery is different, through the nasal passages/lungs, but it's still in your bloodstream and the liver will process it and remove it.

Reverend Otis

i'd MUCH rather have alcohol permeate my lungs

If you drink alcohol you already do but in a reverse order. Alcohol in your bloodstream from drinking will pass into your lungs when you exhale. It's the basis for how breathalizers work.

Speaking of, these things will totally screw the results on a breathalizer.
 
2006-05-05 08:08:49 PM
"Despite its quick-acting properties, Spirit Partners claims the device poses no "greater risks ... than consuming alcohol in the traditional way." State Rep. Morrie Lanning, R-Moorhead, who sponsored the House bill, doesn't argue that it does, releasing a statement acknowledging, "Very little scientific research has been done on the dangers of inhaling alcohol." And the law wouldn't prohibit the ingestion of vaporized alcohol; if so, flaming brandy and cognac would have to be outlawed. But it would put a damper on a device, like so much marijuana paraphernalia, that has the sole purpose of getting people high quickly."


The definition of a prude is someone who is afraid that somewhere, someone else may be having fun.
 
2006-05-05 08:10:07 PM
When vaporizers are outlawed, only outlaws will have
vaporizes.
 
2006-05-05 08:10:37 PM
Kiler Speaking of, these things will totally screw the results on a breathalizer.

What would happen if you took a "shot" of vaporized alcohol and then immediately took a breathalizer? Would it show a BAC of 1.0?
 
2006-05-05 08:22:21 PM
I propose we ban chugging. It gets you high fast, and alcohol isn't intended to be an intoxicant! It's legal for medical purposes only!
 
2006-05-05 08:23:38 PM
i'm sure there are legal guidelines covering things like this alcohol delivery system, and if there aren't then this rush to write some may be unfounded.

who would write regulation like this, the atf?
do they regulate alcohol like medication?
or maybe the fda? or is it wide open?

otherwise, the same drunkenness rules apply, so what difference could it make?

/duluth article, lol write a law! write a law!
 
2006-05-05 08:45:59 PM
Flarn

Turn on your sarcasm recognition device.

Relax, don't worry, have (drink) a homebrew.
 
2006-05-05 08:50:23 PM
Ha. Its all legal in Mexico, but they're phasing Prohibition back in - in Minnesota.
Ha. Land of the free..
 
2006-05-05 08:51:17 PM
wwwhhhhhhyyyyyyy?????
 
2006-05-05 09:01:56 PM
People need a machine to inhale alcohol?
 
2006-05-05 09:11:23 PM
Why do we do these things? We ban drugs, regulate alcohol and tobacco so heavily, impose 'sin taxes' on things, and even have legislation on the table to regulate the games we play... how is this what the forefathers envisioned? Government getting into the business of regulating how people get drunk... government deciding that people in a bar shouldn't have more than two beers, lest they be intoxicated in a bar... This is one of the many places where conservatism and liberalism should meet, where we could have less government, and more freedom. Yet instead of talking about values, parenting as the role of parents, and letting people do what they want, so long as it doesn't hurt others...

Minnesota's leaders, like so many others will simply fall in line because they are afraid they will look like they support the activity in question, and not just the freedom. These are not the politicians we are looking for, they are representatives of cowardess, so unable to convey a cogent point about standing up for freedom that they would withhold the freedom rather than even try to stand for something. Ya know, the majority of our forefathers were making apple jacks at home, and probably huffed up more alcohol in a day than one of these machines could deliver in a week... wherever they got their courage from, I sure wish the politicians of today would get some too.
 
2006-05-05 09:38:55 PM
Torc I was wondering why I kept finding olives in my ass.
 
2006-05-05 09:43:43 PM
Kinda funny actually that they are trying to do this. Here is a tip for you guys,

The machine that you use to vaporize alcohol is identical to the machine that you use to inhale asthma medication. It's called a breathing machine by some. Additionally, if you go to the pet store and buy an air filter pump, hook it up to an (wait for it) ATOMIZER that you can buy from the drug store for, oh I dont know 2 bucks then fill the atomizer with vodka, you have an alcohol inhaler (dumbasses)
 
2006-05-05 09:56:56 PM
When vaporizing alcohol is outlawed, only outlaws will vaporize alcohol.
 
2006-05-05 10:01:21 PM
Actually the way to get toasted without drinking is to fill an enema bag with say 6-7 shots of your choice and insert......then it is "bottoms up" expell after say 10 minutes and you will be absolutely looped.....Try outlawing grannies enema bag....the shiat will fly let me tell ya!
 
2006-05-05 10:14:18 PM
So, if you use one of these gadgets do you have to grind up the roofies first?
 
2006-05-05 10:16:47 PM
geosprint
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Please tell me your kidding... PLEAZZZZZZ
 
2006-05-05 10:32:40 PM
There's a shadow just behind me
Shrouding every step I take
Making every promise empty
Pointing every finger at me
Waiting like a stalking buttler
Who upon the finger rests
Murder now, the pattern called "must we"
Just because the son has come

Jesus,wont you farking whistle ?
Something but the past and done
Jesus, wont you farking whistle
Something but the past and done

Why can't we not be sober?
I just want to start this over
And why can't we drink forever?
I just want to start this over

I am just a worthless liar
I am just an imbecile
I will only complicate you
Trust in me and fall as well
I will find a centre in you
I will chew it up and leave
I will work to elevate you
Just enough to bring you down

Mother Mary, won't you whisper?
Something but what's past and done
Mother Mary, won't you whisper?
Something but what's past and done

Why can't we not be sober?
I just want to start this over
And why can't we sleep forever?
I just want to start this over
And why?

I am just a worthless liar
I am just an imbecile
I will only complicate you
Trust in me and fall as well
I will find a centre in you
I will chew it up and leave

Trust me
Trust me
Trust me
Trust me
Trust me

Why can't we not be sober?
I just want to start things over
And why can't we sleep forever?
I just want to start this over
And why?

I want it when I want it
I want it when I want it
I want it when I want it
I want it when I want it
 
2006-05-05 11:35:08 PM
The Kennedys have been using this form of intoxication for years. They would take a vodka sauna tent on camping trips. This came out when Michael Kennedy, now dead, was caught banging his kids'14 year old babysitter, who was along on said trips and was allowed in the sauna.
 
2006-05-05 11:35:43 PM
Um, you don't need to spend 300 bucks on an "AWOL" machine.

Just get a friggin nebulizer, they're like 50 bucks at Walgreens, same damn thing. Funny thing is, I live across the hall from Pawlenty's nephew. He's the biggest drunk ever.
 
2006-05-05 11:36:43 PM
geosprint: Actually the way to get toasted without drinking is to fill an enema bag with say 6-7 shots of your choice and insert

Be careful that you don't end up like this guy.
 
MSD
2006-05-06 12:28:07 AM
If you can't vaporize it, just drop a chunk of dry ice into a bottle of everclear and inhale the fog. I forget the exact science behind it, but the alcohol molecules adhere to the cooled vapor; end result: get drunk fast.
 
2006-05-06 12:47:34 AM
Bluegill

Feh, olives? The toothpicks are a lot worse.
 
2006-05-06 08:28:54 AM
Donald_McRonald The definition of a prude is someone who is afraid that somewhere, someone else may be having fun.

I agree with you in principle.

However, when I lived just off a rich brats' college campus, many of these fun people would invade my space with no regard for rights. Urinating and vomiting in my yard, blasting my space with noise till dawn, breaking whiskey bottles in my driveway, etc.

The catchphrase goes: "Do what you want if it harms no other." This should be drilled into them on the first day.

I'd rather live under a bridge than near a college, Never again. Better the kids be mellowed out by pot than made into animals by alcohol overdose.

The wierd thing is, alcohol is legal. Why should a delivery system for it not be? It's insane.

Wouldn't just heating booze in a pan do the same thing? I wonder what would happen if I put scotch in my CPAP machine's humidifier.
 
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