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2006-05-05 09:53:22 AM
Christian extremists are only the way they are in America because they already run the place. If they really were as powerless and marginalized as they like to say they are, they likely would resort to more forceful tactics.

Well, in Europe they are busy hacking off the heads of those with opposing viewpoints. Same in Asia. I think you might be on to something there. The natural state of the Christian is a wild-eyed honey eating maniac who lives in the wilderness but loves to dunk people in water.
 
2006-05-05 09:53:24 AM
IT'S A WORK OF FICTION LET IT GO CATHOLIC FREAKS
 
2006-05-05 09:53:25 AM
Theaetetus: Skarkroe:
http://www.elevation.cc

You know, as much as I disagree with your message, that's a dang spiffy site.


That IS a spiffy site.
Also, I was going to jump on Skarkroe for swiping my handle, but then I saw that he registered it here way before I did.

Dammit.
 
2006-05-05 09:53:27 AM
RandomExcess: It is possible to wait for the reaction of the devout before persecuting Christians for "muslim outrage"?

Dude? Seriously. It's called a 'sense of humour'.

You see, the joke is funny because of that very reference which you misunderstood.

If you seriously believe you're being 'persecuted' then I suggest you ship out to Africa or something where you can get some real persecution in.

It's humour. Not hate.

Jesus made jokes, too.
 
2006-05-05 09:54:03 AM
I do hope seventypercent is joking. Dude, that's just sick. This judgmental holier-than-thou crap is why I and loads of other people decide that religion sucks and that it turns lots of people into bad people.

Who should cast the first stone, BTW? Oh, you all don't read the New Testament so you wouldn't know. Judgmental bastards. Just do whatever your preacher says.

And if you were joking, that was not exaggerated (sp?) enough to come across. People for real say those sorts of things, and worse.
 
2006-05-05 09:54:40 AM
You guys do know that man created god, don't you?
 
2006-05-05 09:54:48 AM
darkyn

You are pleased by the thought of someone's eternal suffering? That doesn't sound very Christian to me.

Gloating over the wicked isn't a sin. They even have a special gallery in heaven for spitting on the damned.
 
2006-05-05 09:55:03 AM
ArcadianRefugee: Then just hate the idiots who don't understand what it means when a book is found in the 'fiction' section.
John Stewart! I knew I would find your fark id!

NutznGum: So, you think a book that you've ignored is stupid? How would you know?
Uhh, you dont think the points of the movie have been publicised enough?

Cant Christians just be annoyed that this work of fiction has been taken so seriously? As fark likes to point out, many Christians are a little slow. Others of us get annoyed when people who dont understand ideas like "logic" and "fiction" let 8th grade book club of the week paperbacks confuse them.

Id love to see this movie, but won't give them the money ever since Brown tried to say the conclusions were all true.


/read the book
//enjoyed it.
///Angels and Demons is better.
////Some people in here are REALLY angry at God.
 
2006-05-05 09:55:28 AM
Hey, Christians don't use car bombs and behead people...they use warplanes and the electric chair. duh.

New Christian slogan: 'Hey, at least we don't use car bombs!'
 
2006-05-05 09:55:33 AM
I_C_Weener: Christian extremists are only the way they are in America because they already run the place. If they really were as powerless and marginalized as they like to say they are, they likely would resort to more forceful tactics.

Well, in Europe they are busy hacking off the heads of those with opposing viewpoints.


What? You mean recently? How 'bout a link?
 
2006-05-05 09:55:39 AM
Again, I am a Christian, but you have to realize that this is the kind of stuff that turns non-Christians off to finding a relationship with Jesus Christ.

There you go again, assuming all non-Christians give a crispy crap about a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ".

How condescendingly trite.
 
2006-05-05 09:55:47 AM
muninsfire

Jesus made jokes, too.

[disbelieving]
Really? Give me an example.
[/disbelieving]

Did he say 'try the veal' afterwards?
 
2006-05-05 09:55:51 AM
Well, there's an irony.

The words within a book of fiction against another book with words of fiction.

Dumbasses.
 
2006-05-05 09:55:51 AM
Meh, they didn't like "The Last Temptation of Christ" either, and that movie was a hoot.
 
2006-05-05 09:56:14 AM
I used to have an annoying fundie coworker that was always spouting off about how evil da DaVinci Code is, or how immoral the entertainment industry is, or who's going to hell, or how awful Muslims are, blah blah blah. I put this poster up in my office, and she doesn't bother me anymore.

lookon.pl
 
2006-05-05 09:56:40 AM
muninsfire

Jesus made jokes, too

Jesus walks into an inn puts 3 nails on the counter and asks, "Can you put me up for the night?"

/that joke slayed them back in 227 AD.
 
2006-05-05 09:57:15 AM
Lady J: [disbelieving]
Really? Give me an example.
[/disbelieving]


"Lord, you've turned water into wine, that's amazing!"
"Thank you, Matthew. Now I'm going to turn it into pee."
 
2006-05-05 09:57:22 AM
PhysicsJunky: The faithful should probably read it for free from a public library or such.


Thats a well said perspective. Kudos!
 
2006-05-05 09:57:25 AM
Jesus made jokes, too.

I especially loved the one where he turned the water into urine. It cracked me up every time. And the one about the Rabbi, Bhuddist and the married woman....forget about it.
 
2006-05-05 09:57:48 AM
You just have to wonder, If this is a work of fiction why is everyone getting their panties in a knot over it?

Does the church think their followers are that dumb? (Insert joke about takeing the bible litteraly here, or joke on they must be for listening to the church)

I for one and still seeking morpheus and hopeing he will free me from the matrix. I am sick of being some machines battery.
 
2006-05-05 09:58:04 AM
I think this more a media created controversy than anything else. I mean it's one dude from the vatican office that's calling for a boycott and no one else.
 
2006-05-05 09:59:21 AM
No "Voting Enabled"?!? I was expecting to be able to vote for Rosie O'Donut going on the new weight loss plan.
 
2006-05-05 09:59:34 AM
Beat ya by 10 seconds, Weener.
 
2006-05-05 09:59:57 AM
First: It was only a story, a mystery a kind of who done it, after awhile it got kind of boring anyway.

Second: It's only a movie. Tom hanks, Hollywood, you know film, a readers digest version of the (IMHO) a rather boring book after all

Third: A lot of christens don't go to the movies, a lot of christens don't speak English (i.e. South America. So the great majority of them don't give a fark what holy-wood is up too.

Forth: This whole big stink is really a publicity stunt, placeboes for the great unwashed masses
 
2006-05-05 10:00:09 AM
Rev. Skarekroe Please re-read with the sarcasm meter on. Apparently Occam believes that American Christians don't use violence because they control the country. I gave the example where Christians are more marginalized and still don't use violence (well not since the Reformation, unless you count Ireland). Any attempt to paint the average Christian a violent fanatic is ridiculous.

Average muslims, its a little easier. Average Bhuddist...well, there was Grasshopper.
 
2006-05-05 10:00:26 AM
What did Jesus say as he was being crucified?



"Ahhhhhhhhhhh...!"
 
2006-05-05 10:00:27 AM
IT'S A MOVIE!

Everything you see in a film is a reflection of reality and not reality in itself. The fact that people feel threatened by a FICTIONAL FILM speaks scores about how absolutely easy it is to control their perception of reality through media. It's no wonder that religious fanatics, easily influenced by religious texts, are crying out over a film that threatens to go against what they were taught since childhood.

People need to realize that everything they watch is fabricated, a mere creation of the person filming the footage.
 
2006-05-05 10:02:24 AM
popinjay: People need to realize that everything they watch is fabricated, a mere creation of the person filming the footage.

www.commondreams.org

/sorry, couldn't resist
 
2006-05-05 10:02:24 AM
I_C_Weener: Well, in Europe they are busy hacking off the heads of those with opposing viewpoints. Same in Asia. I think you might be on to something there. The natural state of the Christian is a wild-eyed honey eating maniac who lives in the wilderness but loves to dunk people in water.

I'm not casting any aspirsions toward Christianity. My point is that highly marginalized radical groups gravitate toward violence because that's the only means left to them to make themselves heard.

This applied to any radical group - religious, political, Trekkies, etc.

We don't see that behavior in American Christians because they control the dialogue in this country. Nor do we see it in Europe because European Christianity doesn't have the same fundamentalist flavor it does here.
 
2006-05-05 10:03:16 AM
Lady J: Really? Give me an example.

It's in the New Testament. Find the line where he says, "Thou art Peter; and upon this rock I shall build my church".

It's a pun in the original language, you see: the name "Peter" in Greek is Petros, which is remarkably similar to the word for rock, in Greek.

So yeah, the J-man was known to crack a pun at least once--probably more often; I can't imagine he didn't have a sense of humour.

And no, he didn't say "Try the veal"; he just said "bite me."

/I can't stand people who can't take a religious joke or two.
//Seriously, the bible's full of fun word-play.
///And hell--if you believe that God created everything, he *had* to have had a fun sense of humour. C.f. the platypus...well, hell, most Australian animals.

LegacyDL: Jesus walks into an inn puts 3 nails on the counter and asks, "Can you put me up for the night?"

See my above answer. Though I think he'd stay away from inns, on account of a bad experience with three older men as a child.
 
2006-05-05 10:03:56 AM
seventypercent: The thing that gives me the biggest amount of solace is the knowledge that the people involved with this film -- every last one of them -- will face an eternity of unimaginable pain, butchery, and torture. For me, that's enough. Sure, there's always the temptation to exact some more Earthly revenge on this people, but we have to put our faith in God and in His ability to exact vengeance on those who attack His son.

OK, I'll chime in. What I don't understand is why people who profess to be so secure in their religion are up in arms over a fictional movie. Christ, it is entertainment and the best kind because it is something that everyone has a connection to. If it makes you question your faith so much that you want to see the torture of the people who made the movie then one has to wonder how much faith you have. Clearly people that are get threatened by a movie are weak in their faith and on shaky spiritual ground. God doesn't care about a movie... God cares about people in Darfur.

\Yes, I know that seventypercent is trolling.
 
2006-05-05 10:03:59 AM
May is a great month for movies in 2006.

5/05 Mission Impossible III (directed by J.J. Abrams)
5/12 Poseidon (Based on one of the BEST MOVIES EVAR!)
5/19 The Da Vinci Code (OOH NOES!! Teh Bibel is written by...MAN!!)
5/26 X-Men: The Last Stand (The next chapter in arguably the best comic book movie series)

See you at the movies...

/ Good riddance United 93
 
2006-05-05 10:04:04 AM
"A Christian evangelical company in the U.S. has released a 10-DVD version of the New Testament as a "Christian response" to The Da Vinci Code and is urging churches to buy the series as a start for discussions in their congregations."

MAN! Am I missing out on a perfectly great money machine or what?

/does that say 10-DVDs?
//smacks forhead for not thinking of this first
 
2006-05-05 10:04:17 AM
.....oh, shiat, did I turn this into a religious joke thread by mistake?

......

"When in Rome", after all.

Why did all the ladies love Jesus?
 
2006-05-05 10:04:28 AM
thelunatick
You just have to wonder, If this is a work of fiction why is everyone getting their panties in a knot over it?

Well, I for one found it to be wooden, have a bad pace, bad dialogue and to be rehashing old news as if there were a plot to it. It also picks on albinos.

And I don't wear panties, but I do bunch them up on occasion.

Gospel by William Barnhardt is much better of a religious conspiracy history fiction novel. Plus, it makes fun of televengelists and Catholics.

Holy Blood Holy Grail was awesome up until the second 2/3 of the book which were pure speculation. That speculation was used for DaVinci Code.

Leonardo is laughing at us now.
 
2006-05-05 10:04:56 AM
Fiction? I'll give you fiction...

www.anicca.net
 
2006-05-05 10:05:02 AM
muninsfire

It's in the New Testament. Find the line where he says, "Thou art Peter; and upon this rock I shall build my church".

It's a pun in the original language, you see: the name "Peter" in Greek is Petros, which is remarkably similar to the word for rock, in Greek.


Well, I suppose I'll give you that, although it is reaching. Do you think Jesus had a sense of humour about gay people?

'My son, art thou an arse bandit?'
 
2006-05-05 10:05:48 AM
Theaetetus
Beat ya by 10 seconds, Weener.

Curse you! He also liked to reanimate corpses at funerals, just to see what the reaction of the heirs was.
 
2006-05-05 10:05:51 AM
2006-05-05 09:55:03 AM DrCocktosten

NutznGum: So, you think a book that you've ignored is stupid? How would you know?

Uhh, you dont think the points of the movie have been publicised enough?


Said Pat Robertson as he condemned 'Brokeback Mountain' and all those who had seen it as evil perverts.
 
2006-05-05 10:06:30 AM
muninsfire: Why did all the ladies love Jesus?

He's always got wood.

/aisle seat please.
 
2006-05-05 10:06:32 AM
munisfire: ///And hell--if you believe that God created everything, he *had* to have had a fun sense of humour. C.f. the platypus...well, hell, most Australian animals.

You learn something new every day... I mean, platypus, pretty strange, right? Got webbed feet, a bill, fur, a paddle-tail, gives milk, lays eggs... Pretty whacky, right?

The male also has a poisonous stinger that can take out a person. WTF?!
 
2006-05-05 10:06:36 AM
ArcadianRefugee

Then just hate the idiots who don't understand what it means when a book is found in the 'fiction' section.


If James Frey can be sold as non-fiction...
 
2006-05-05 10:07:10 AM
If you think this book sucked, DO NOT read Digital Fortress. To a computer programmer, it was like reading the script to 'The Net', but much, much worse.

This guy does NOT do very good research before writing his books, which many people in academia have pointed out elsewhere.

With regards to this book (The Da Vinci Code) being fiction, I think most people criticize it because the author states, both at the beginning of the book, and in TV interviews, that the story is made up, but the facts are true.

Smart people from both Christian and Non-Christian sides have debunked most of the claims made in the book.
 
2006-05-05 10:07:10 AM
DrCocktosten: Some people in here are REALLY angry at God.


That would be like being angry at Mickey Mouse. I'm angry with fundamentalist christians who are tring to hijack my way of life.
 
2006-05-05 10:07:12 AM
muninsfire
Worst. Pun. Ever.

I bet Satan has waaaaaay better gags than that.
 
2006-05-05 10:07:37 AM
i1.tinypic.com
 
2006-05-05 10:07:49 AM
If I was a Templar, I would use Psychic Storm, then Hallucinate on my enemies.
 
2006-05-05 10:08:32 AM
Lady J: Well, I suppose I'll give you that, although it is reaching. Do you think Jesus had a sense of humour about gay people?

'My son, art thou an arse bandit?'


It's actually fairly well established [ at least by every priest I've ever talked to ] that he was intending to make the pun there. Of course, damn near every priest I've met has laughed at one particular joke....

/It's very sacreligious.
//I don't think Jesus really *cared* about gay people.
///He did say to "love thy neighbour as thyself"...so perhaps he was advocating reacharounds?
 
2006-05-05 10:08:33 AM
Lady J I hate this dumb book for the fact that so many thick people think it's true.

Blame Dan Brown for that mess... there's a line in the beginning that states that all the information in the book is true.... he does that with all his books.
 
2006-05-05 10:08:43 AM
Jesus is golfing with Moses caddying on a PGA course, early in the morning so to avoid being mobbed by other golfers. Jesus asks Moses what to use for the next hole. Moses says, "You'll need a wood for this one, Jesus, you've got to launch it 300 yards between these water hazards". Jesus says that Tiger Woods would use a 9 iron and Moses hands it to him.

Sure enough, Jesus slices it into the water, and tells Moses to part the waters so he can play through. Moses groans but does it.

Next hole, Moses suggests a 5 iron for the next hole, but Jesus impatiently says:"No, no, no! Tiger Woods would use a wood, here.". Moses says "whatever, you're the son of God" and hands him the club.. Jesus pops the ball on the side of the club and the ball shoots into another water hazard.

Jesus tells Moses to part these waters so he can again play through. A visibly pissed off Moses says "No way, JC, you haven't taken my advice all morning, get your own damn ball". So Jesus is walking on the water, looking down to see if he can find his ball.

At this moment, a pair of golfers comes up behind them and watch in amazement as Jesus walks back and forth on the water hazard. One of the golfers says "Holy cow! Who does that guy think he is, Jesus Christ?"

Moses angrily retorts, "Hell no, Tiger Woods"
 
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