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(MSNBC)   Writers of new movie about Flight 93 fabricated some details for dramatic effect. For instance, there were actually no snakes on the plane and Sam Jackson was not involved   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 30
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2006-04-28 11:18:05 AM  
I beg to differ. There were indeed snakes on Flight 93... with boxcutters.
 
2006-04-28 11:24:41 AM  
More like [Obvious]
 
2006-04-28 12:13:41 PM  
I would assume that the general idea that the plane was brought down by islamic fundie farkwads is still true. Or has that been rewritten?
 
2006-04-28 12:38:05 PM  
I'd say that this is a good time to do it. They appear to have done it in a respectful way, and it's best to record it, even dramatically, while it's still fresh.
 
2006-04-28 12:40:59 PM  
what....do they land....

/isle seat
//kosher meal
///hot towel
 
2006-04-28 12:44:21 PM  
reverendfitty: kosher meal


That's one flight where kosher won't be served...
 
2006-04-28 01:08:40 PM  
"Took a guess at some stuff because everybody involved is dead now" != "fabricated some details", asshat.
 
2006-04-28 01:20:28 PM  
Got-damn!!!
 
2006-04-28 01:25:07 PM  
playblu"Took a guess at some stuff because everybody involved is dead now" != "fabricated some details", asshat.

True, but unless the movie itself shows numerous different takes on the same event (a la Rashomon), it's unlikely that what's portrayed coincides with everything that actually occurred.
 
2006-04-28 01:32:07 PM  
Umm, so what? You can't expect it to be exactly what happened. It's still a movie.

There is no way I want to see this movie. Not now, probably not ever. I'm disturbed enough already.
 
2006-04-28 01:38:10 PM  
cryinoutloud: Umm, so what? You can't expect it to be exactly what happened. It's still a movie.

FTA:
"Many of the victims' immediate relatives have endorsed the movie, saying it fairly represents their final hours. David Beamer, whose son Todd Beamer was killed, told the Associated Press this week: 'Our personal reaction was one of relief, because they got it right. When it comes to September 11 and United Flight 93, we don't need another movie. This one got it.'"

The impression I get is that people will take the film's depiction as gospel. Granted, whether somebody believes a movie dramatization to be the truth or not really doesn't amount to much.

There is no way I want to see this movie. Not now, probably not ever. I'm disturbed enough already.

I'm not sure what purpose it served anyone to make this movie; I won't be seeing it either.
 
2006-04-28 01:42:32 PM  
This whole movie disgusts me even if they had to "take a guess on some stuff". Nothing like Hollywood bastardizing a moment in history....

//Anyone see Pearl Harbor?
 
2006-04-28 01:42:53 PM  
I saw an advanced screening of the movie, and I have to agree.

I don't think the last words that one passenger said was, "We have to protect the president! Our sacrifice means the rest of the world can be liberated!"

And I don't think the first words out of the terrorist leader was, "If you don't want to die, you will all vote for Democrats when we land!"
 
2006-04-28 01:48:38 PM  
Ric Romano: Turns out what's in movies, isn't all true
 
2006-04-28 02:16:30 PM  
The Fact of the matter is, we aren't clear what the fark happened on Flight 93.
We have a rough idea from the handfull of skyphone calls, and Air Traffic Control recordings...but the ATC recordings don't cover what happened in the Pasenger Cabin, and there are no recordings of the phone calls the Family Members recieved...hence, and this may sound harsh...those accounts are Anecdoteal at best...we don't even know for certain that the Hijackers used Box Cutters for certain.

Thus, 98% of this Film is pretty much just MADE UP.

Personally, I have ZERO intention of seeing this movie.
I don't need some slicked up Hollywood fairy tale to remind me about 9-11-2001, anymore than I need a Politician beating me over the head with it. I can recall clearly where I was, and what I was doing, and how it went down, and how I felt, and still feel about those events.

This may be "tastefull"...but its still propaganda...and for Profit no less.

You guys do realize that the Familys of the the passengers of Flight 93 who are portrayed in this movie were paid a fee, don't you?
My sympathies for their collective losses...but once they accept money, I have to take what they say about "United93" with a grain or two of salt.
 
2006-04-28 02:39:33 PM  
Stratohead

You guys do realize that the Familys of the the passengers of Flight 93 who are portrayed in this movie were paid a fee, don't you?

Good. No matter what happened, they should get something.

Are you proposing that the creators of the movie should get even more money rather than the family members?
 
2006-04-28 02:48:32 PM  
fabricated some details for dramatic effect

Shocked. Shocked. SHOCKED!!!
 
2006-04-28 02:58:39 PM  
root88
Are you proposing that the creators of the movie should get even more money rather than the family members?
.............................

I didn't propose anything in my post above. Hence the lack of prepositions.

I was saying that the familys recieved componsation (pro-them), which makes me take what they say about this film with a Grain of Salt.
 
2006-04-28 03:10:57 PM  
If you make a movie about 9/11 and it turns out to be a bomb, can you be prosecuted under the Homeland Security Act?
 
2006-04-28 03:25:22 PM  
Stratohead

"This may be "tastefull"...but its still propaganda...and for Profit no less."

What do you think movies are?
 
2006-04-28 03:42:26 PM  
So this is not the movie where the plane is shot dowm leaving a 8 mile debris trail. Got it. So that makes it propaganda. Are they releasing this on 9-11-06 as well.
 
2006-04-28 03:43:03 PM  
I'll only believe it if the plane gets shot down by the military at the end. We all know they shot it down and just refuse to admit it.

/doesn't believe in all the stupid conspiracies
//does believe that they shot down the plane, which would have been the right thing to do at the time.
 
2006-04-28 03:46:24 PM  
mattman2323: //Anyone see Pearl Harbor?

Unfortunately, yes.

/Tora, Tora, Tora was great, though.
 
2006-04-28 03:56:21 PM  
EdgeRunner
FTW!

A bill for 1 new monitor is in the mail.

Also:
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2006-04-28 04:03:36 PM  
I learned that people in Hawaii play baseball with the sun high in the sky at 8am by watching Pearl Harbor with Ben Assfleck.

Farking horrible movie, Tora! Tora! Tora is far superior and will always be the penultimate Pearl Harbor film.
 
2006-04-28 04:18:57 PM  
It's why this movie should never have been made. There are still too many unanswered questions about what happened that day and the families of the passengers would freak out if the movie depicts anyone on board as anything less than a plaster saint.

I'm proud of what those folks did; I hope in the same situation I'd have the courage to do it myself. However ,the story is fine by itself without having to be "hollywood"-ized. An event like this shouldn't be reduced to a piece of profit-making entertainment.

And just for the record, I am by no means a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. I had relatives who were in the pentagon when the pane hit, and I've seen the hole with my own two eyes.

BUT it's NOT clear that the plane was Crashed by the terrorists in the cockpit. There is some credible evidence that suggests that the F-16's trailing it were given a 'shoot to kill" order by Dick Cheney instead. (and without knowledge of what was happening onboard, that might well have been the right decision)

Somehow I doubt the movie will explore this very far (or even ask the question why in hell a competent commander in chief would delegate a decision like that to is VP)
 
2006-04-28 04:55:57 PM  
this is the second thread im gonna post this in today:

i love the smell of propaganda in the morning
 
2006-04-28 05:00:17 PM  
9/11 was a liberal conspiracy, and a major part of the Homosexual Agenda.
 
2006-04-29 03:04:25 AM  
After watching 9/11 Loose Change - which I realize is all conspiracy theory, (BUT if any *piece* of that film is true means big trouble for the gov't) I hope they cover things like, why there was no significant plane debris, and just a fifteen foot long ditch that "looked like someone backed a dump truck up to and unloaded scrap metal into," and though they "identified bodies" the M.E. on the scene said there were none and he was done with the crash site in 20 minutes (paraphrasing). 9/11 just has too many unanswered questions. I have no trouble believing the gov't was involved to the point of orchestrating things. They told lies to get us into WWII, WWI, the Spanish-American War, so why would now be different? I mean *rreally*.

/color me seditious
 
2006-04-29 11:37:27 AM  
I think it's plausible that we shot down the plane.

Just like I think it's very plausible that back a few years ago, that one plane off Long Island went down because of a hand-held missile, and that was covered up.

I don't think there's a conspiracy theory to explain either, but I do think both might fall under some government official's version of national security and be whitewashed for the public's "benefit."

Regardless, those people on board were definitely heroes that day, and regardless, you could not drag me to see this film.
 
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