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2006-04-27 05:49:14 PM  
No way that contoller is gonna be loved by gamers. Teh gayness.
 
2006-04-27 05:49:35 PM  
That's what you do when you're having fun... You refer yourself and some other people. Wheeeee!!!


\obscure>
 
2006-04-27 05:50:36 PM  
Mac-Abre
WOW! MAGIC! You just turned the Wii controller into an old school NES controller with a few extra buttons!


It still looks like a boxy piece of uncomfortable shiat no matter which way you flip it. It looks tiny, and boxy, and fugly. Are they too cheap to shape it so it will be comfortable to hold? I just don't get it. It looks like crap. And by that I mean that aestheticallyit looks like crap and it also looks like it would be crap to play with.
 
2006-04-27 05:51:17 PM  
rpm wins for playing the god of war card. Great game.
SiriuslyBlack proves my point about the microsoft console.

brynthian
I didn't intend to say you thought it sucked. And while I agree that more games are better, I like having mulitple systems for that reason. I don't want to play shoddy games and I like to pick and choose. There are a couple xbox games I'd like to play but there's no reason other than money that they aren't cross platform.

The reason I am most excited about the rev is the launch list, at least 20 games +all gc titles +the back catalog of old classics. I will be able to play tons of content, none of which will include Barbie Horse Adventure.
 
2006-04-27 05:51:30 PM  
www.vinod.com

"And the game just go "Wiiii, Wiiii.....!"

/also obvious
 
2006-04-27 05:52:40 PM  
Nice Hedberg reference, rockneedsasavior.
 
2006-04-27 05:52:40 PM  
Someone at marketing was smoking Wiid
and shared it with the execs who approved.
 
2006-04-27 05:53:08 PM  
Wait 'til this hits the worldchans.

"Muda muda!

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!"
 
2006-04-27 05:54:13 PM  
Yeah, I messed up my quotation marks, but so would Bubb Rubb.

/lame excuse
 
2006-04-27 05:54:40 PM  
But then I thought about it for a bit. And I realized that the Wii is actually not that bad of a name. Like they said, it will be easily understood in many different languages (except those that don't have a 'w' sound; Sweden I'm talking to you). And it is... "unique" as Nintendo so eloquently put it.

This just in, Nintendo bribed Sweden to put the 'w' into their language so that they could sell their new console in that country."
 
rpm
2006-04-27 05:56:36 PM  
dbaggins: many degrees of control.


Revolution^wWii has tilt, roll, yaw, acceleration in addition to the controls you see. That wipes the PS2 one.
 
2006-04-27 05:56:37 PM  
When Halo began development, it was a real time strategy game that would have been released on Apple and Windows PCs. However, during its many years of development, it changed into a third person shooter and then to a first person shooter. Halo was then converted for development for the Xbox game console.

Lots of info on it at wikipedia, including the acquisition and the fact that even though MS owns bungie they have little to do with development since on paper they are only the publisher and Bungie is still development.

It's at least a technicality but it's subjective and I consider Bungie the 1st party.
 
2006-04-27 05:57:19 PM  
nintendo's marketing department should be taken out back and whacked with a stick. The name is bad enough... but if its pronounced "we" or why not spell it "we"?


When the console is debuted at e3 in two weeks I will smack the guy from nintendo with a rolled up newspaper and say "bad".
 
2006-04-27 05:59:01 PM  
I don't see how anyone could possibly get excited about the back-catalogue feature of the Wii. I mean, it's nice, but it's already so easy to get any of those old games that you want online and without having to invest $200+. And since those games aren't being produced or distributed (until Wii comes out later this year), you had a perfectly good (moral) excuse.
 
2006-04-27 05:59:16 PM  
I have never owned a console game system, nor do I ever plan to have anything to do with the industry in any way.

But I have spent the last 20 years in marketing, so I do know a little something about that.

Wii is an extraordinarily bad name for this product.

That is all.

/master of the obvious has spoken
 
2006-04-27 06:01:06 PM  
2006-04-27 05:31:43 PM brynthian

Your Colecovision didn't have gyro sensors or the ability to tell where at the screen it was pointed. It also didn't have the ability to have attachments plugged into it to extent the functions it provided or the ability to fit into controller shells that completely change how you hold and use the controller.

In mentioning the library of games you managed to disprove your own point (especially since the sequal to KH is on GBA). You seem to be able to list multiple first part games series from Nintendo but only a single specific series from a 3rd party developer when discussing the other systems. Why is this an issue? 3rd party developers can put their games where ever they want to. Sometime the games are exclusive, sometimes cross platform, and sometimes they get ported at a later date. 1st party games series attract a core audience that want to play those games with those characters and they know which system they will have to purchase in order to play those games.

Nintendo has the benefit of a good sized library of 1st party titles you can't play anywhere else, 3rd party developers who are making exclusive games for the Wii with at least one being a launch title (Red Steel, something completely new BTW), and a massive library of thousands upon thousands of older games that many younger gamers have never had the chance to play and many older games love the idea of being able to play again.

You may think that you won't like the controllers and be correct. Then again you might try one out and decide that you love them. The point is you can't say for sure either way yet. One thing is certain. Nintendo will automaticlly win the casual gamer market by having the lowest price point of the 3 major systems and the largest game library. I can't say that there will be millions of People with a Wii and no PS3 or Xbox 360, but I can tell you that lots of people have said they will get a Wii in addition to any other consoles they buy.
 
2006-04-27 06:02:08 PM  
Tch. You'll be the ones who'll have to explain why you don't have a Wii.

/Get it? Eh? Eh?
 
2006-04-27 06:02:41 PM  
Wii takes a chunk out of the stock price.

I'm actually surprised that it only dropped 2% today. Maybe the name change was announced late in the Japanese trading day?
 
2006-04-27 06:03:26 PM  
wii.com, and wii.net seem to be taken?

yep, by Willamette Industries, Inc. something affiliated with Weyerhauser lumber. Weeeeee! So no stand alone domain. How poooooooooorlii thought ouuuuuuuuuuuut.
 
2006-04-27 06:04:17 PM  
rpm
PS2 - God of War

XBox - dunno. The only first party MS games the come to mind are sports ones.


Halo doesn't count?
 
2006-04-27 06:04:40 PM  
Epyn: here's no force on earth that would convince me to buy kids an xbox or ps3 for $400-500. WTF is that, these consoles are not consoles anymore. $200 bucks for a standalone game playing system is where it's at.

And that's why despite the new name it will do well. Parents will see the 4-500.00 price tag for xbox/ps3 and then look at the cheap Nintendo and won't look back.
 
2006-04-27 06:05:00 PM  
Actually... I think I can see where they're coming from.

For the linguaphiles, +0.02 USD on this one... the name may sound stupid to us Brits, 'merricuns, Canadians, etc, but we've got to remember that Nintendo is Japanese. It's a relatively understandable sound in Japanese, where "wa" is one of the most common syllables.

On the other hand, it's not immediately pronouncible. It needs to be constructed out of vowels, one of them dragged; "ウィイ," which would be read "uii" or "uee" in Roman characters. I imagine Nintendo planned this to make the name stand out.

Now, here's the beauty of the name in translation:

In Japanese, the "i" character (in katakana, the secondary alphabet for foreign sounds) is identical to the kanji and radical for "human" or "person." The name's pronounciation in Japanese requires two of these "i" sound characters, and one of them is actually shortened in height when written properly. Thus, reading the word "Wii" in Japanese characters presents a secondary image to natives of the language; two people of different heights (refering to an adult and a child, presumably) standing together at the lead character, which abstractly represents the console itself.

And the kicker, when written in Roman characters, the name does the exact same thing, with the lowercase "i" characters representing two people (look at the official logoform), standing before the majiscule "W."

Now, if only it didn't sound so f*cking stupid in English.

/sorry for the lecture
//graphic design/Japanese double major + nerd
///three weeks until graduation WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
2006-04-27 06:05:03 PM  
The controller is actually pretty innovative. For instance, if you were playing a FPS, the hand of the character on the screen reacts to the movements of your own hand.

/here's a better pic of the controller
//now with left hand analog stick goodness

www.myuploadsite.com
 
2006-04-27 06:06:39 PM  
You aren't investing 200 in an emulator you are buying a full console with out of the box free support for the gamecube library, not some damn limited list.
It will support new titles with totally new gameplay control aspects and if that isn't enough for 200 goddamn dollars (1 month gas cost for the guy next to me), you get a service you can connect to for like ten bucks a month for unlimited access to every nintendo game ever made; including many 3rd party classics even on the sega genesis. If you want you can pay a minute fee to download your selected titles for good and store it locally or on an sd card or whatnot.

You are seriously suggesting that pirating all those old games is something everyone should consider as the better alternative. WTH...
 
2006-04-27 06:07:16 PM  
Stupid tag? Needs a "cool" tag because you can download older games from the 8 bit to the N64. Submitter must be having sex with his Xbox. I fear the new controllers though.
 
2006-04-27 06:09:38 PM  
parkerlewis
Don't be afraid, every system will have at least a third party one in no time. None of the people who I've read about who have reviewed it said it was anything other than goddamn great.

Easy to use, intuitive, faster to learn to use than any controller they have ever used. I have no doubt that I can muster the dexterity to use something other than a keyboard or defacto standard controller.
 
2006-04-27 06:09:59 PM  
Brilliant. Absolutely Brilliant.

The name is so ludicrous, people can't help themselves from talking about it. For the short term, everyone will make fun of the name. And by the time the jokes get old, everyone will have heard of the Wii, or the Wii Wii, or the Wiid Nintendo was smoking when they thought up that name. Brilliant.
 
2006-04-27 06:10:06 PM  
"Johnny, why do you have your bedroom door locked?"
"Playing with my Wii, ma!"
 
2006-04-27 06:11:18 PM  
Easily the worst name for a system evar. I thought Xbox 360 was bad...

Why does everybody talk about graphics? Face it, they're on their way out. Once the PS3 and 360 are done clusterfarking over their superior polygon counts people will realize that the only reason anybody wanted those polygon counts was to see farther out into the distance (i.e. no isometric fog), not so some idiot character's face has a couple hundred virtual muscles you're not aware of because you're busy shooting them. Prerendered videos solve any graphical woes.

It's going to cost too much to make a game with all the graphical details this kind of power implies. Nintendo is the last chance to save the industry before it collapses or people start paying $100 for each game. The controller's a ploy, and while it's goofy, it'll do the trick. They can always fall back on regular controllers. Nintendo's only goal right now is to survive until their day comes.
 
2006-04-27 06:11:26 PM  
I really was hoping that Nintendo would be coming back this time. The system is supposed to be affordable compared to the I need to sell my car and give bj's in a back alley to pay for the 360 and PS3. It also plays tons of classic games as well.

But what do they do? Name it the absolute worst thing imaginable. Why not name it the Shait. At least that would be cool cuase it's the shait!

/I really don't wanna buy something called the Wii
//I don't think I am alone on this
///fark you nintendo. you ruined both yourself and took a dump on my fond memories of your great games
 
2006-04-27 06:13:41 PM  
Whee! Another reason not to buy the system!!!
 
2006-04-27 06:14:41 PM  
brynthian

This is one of the stupidest names ever. . . The Revolution was fine and respectable. . .

Nintendo is on it's way out of the console market. This
new system will be the last nail in their coffin. The
controls for this system are awkward and not very
comfortable, the games once again aren't backwards
compatable, and they think color of the controller is more
inportant than game quality. . .

/I used to love Nintendo. . .


So you have played enough of the Wii to know how the controls work? Or have you just not been listening when every single developer who has tried is proclaimed it the best controller ever made? And what do you mean the games are not backwards compatible? As in they can't be played on the GCN? Umm... duh? Neither can Xbox, PS3, or ANY OTHER CONSOLE EVER. And if you meant you can't play older games on it, that is just ignorant, and you should just stop now. And no other first party makes as quality games as Nintendo does. Sony first party games are third rate and Microsoft... well, they only have like 3 first party games anyway, even if they are pretty good. You must be forgetting MS and Sony have much more cash to throw into the ring than N, and N is putting up a bigger fight comparably.
 
2006-04-27 06:15:06 PM  
I loved super smash bros so much on n64 (which i'd never owned) that I bought a gamecube for the new smash bros. I hated the new version and never bought another gamecube game except for super monkey ball. So after wasting ~400 on the damn system, controllers and two games, I began to hate nintendo. Needless to say, I will never purchase this new system. And WTF is with the controller??? It's designer should retire to a fire if you know what I mean.

The only console games worth playing IMO:
1. NHL 2001. newer versions are teh suxors
2. Tiger Woods 04 and 05. 06 = teh ghey
3. Anything that starts with "grand theft auto"
4. Anything that starts with "halo"

/that is all.
 
2006-04-27 06:15:13 PM  
Howie_Feltersnatch

I'm still not feelin' this controller, no matter how much people talk it up.

Honestly, when playing a videogame I'm not going to want my arm getting tired from holding it up.
 
2006-04-27 06:15:26 PM  
Wii is a great name!

sounds like a citrus flavored japanese candy! yum

wii wii wii!! it's not an xbox or ps3

nintendo's not for meathead gamers
it's wii wii wii for evewiiboddy

oh wii.. je t'aime.. je t'aime.. je t'aime..
(mois non plus)
oh wii, je t'aime!
 
2006-04-27 06:16:01 PM  
Ah, bottom-of-the-thread flaming. God forbid we research before complaining.

Regarding the controllers, though:

There is an analog left stick included with the Revolution (I'm not calling it that new thing), which is attached (it was shown above) to the controller. The Metroid developers demanded it, supposedly.

The controller is said to be quite pleasant to hold, or so the game reviewers say. Game magazine reviewers have had several opportunities to try out the controller, and I've seen no bad impressions of it.

Gamecube controllers are compatible with the Revolution. Four ports are built in. The controller is also pretty well suited for the Virtual Console, which allows download (for a price, which sucks but makes sense, as long as it's cheap) play of much of the Nintendo's back catalog, as well as games from Sega (who partnered for the Virtual Console with Nintendo recently) and some other console I never played.

So, ignoring the phallic nature, it promises to be a solid controller, and much more approachable to non-gamers, which is kind of the point for Nintendo.
 
2006-04-27 06:16:39 PM  
2006-04-27 06:06:39 PM Epyn [TotalFark]

You are seriously suggesting that pirating all those old games is something everyone should consider as the better alternative. WTH...


Sure, why not. Obviously there will probably be some obscure hard-to-find games that Nintendo offers for download that might take some effort to find and pirate, but otherwise, it's just as easy to emulate it for free. Well, maybe a $20 investment for a controller.

I mean, the Wii overall sounds like a great package, especially if it does come out for just $200. But the whole back-catalogue feature isn't one of the things that makes it a good package. It seems rather bass-ackwards to get excited over it. Of course, Nintendo has good reason to get excited over it, because they'll make some extra dough without much work by selling those things to a lot of suckers, but as a consumer, I just see it as a useless addon, around which there is way too much undeserved hype.
 
2006-04-27 06:18:36 PM  


I loved super smash bros so much on n64 (which i'd never owned) that I bought a gamecube for the new smash bros. I hated the new version and never bought another gamecube game except for super monkey ball. So after wasting ~400 on the damn system, controllers and two games, I began to hate nintendo. Needless to say, I will never purchase this new system. And WTF is with the controller??? It's designer should retire to a fire if you know what I mean.

The only console games worth playing IMO:
1. NHL 2001. newer versions are teh suxors
2. Tiger Woods 04 and 05. 06 = teh ghey
3. Anything that starts with "grand theft auto"
4. Anything that starts with "halo"

/that is all.

Oh. You just don't like videogames. Gotcha.

 
2006-04-27 06:19:23 PM  
Heck, we don't need petitions and all that crap to change their name. Just a few major developers saying. "F** NO!, I will not put .... exclusivly for the Wii, on my packaging".
 
2006-04-27 06:20:55 PM  
I want two! So i can have my friends come over and play with my wii wii!
 
2006-04-27 06:21:42 PM  
I, for one, welcome our new Wii wielding overlords.

/Nintendo fan girl
 
2006-04-27 06:22:22 PM  
Dear God. I was about to come rip submitter a new one for misspelling "whee". Oh, well.

/awful name.
//I like Nintendo, though.
 
2006-04-27 06:23:27 PM  
The best, first, party game for Gamecube is Super Monkey Ball. The best, later made party game is Pac-Man Vs.
 
2006-04-27 06:24:07 PM  
Doggie McNugget: 'wee wii?


No, no, I OK.
 
2006-04-27 06:24:13 PM  
LVLLN
The same reason i don't suggest most people solder PS2 ports into their computer, most people don't have time and patience to go through their system settings to get nintendo 64 emulators to run. NES and SNES is easy as pie, but nintendo has provided a great alternative to being a techie and pirate to play their old games.

I will likely continue to use my pc for those games as well, just like presumably you, but it is a great selling point. There are some titles that may get reworked, like goldeneye. Also, I can promise it is a great selling point for the kinds of people who don't hang out here. Both of my sister's love the concept as both loved classic nintendo and will want to play life force or something on it. Neither could keep an emulator running.
 
2006-04-27 06:28:05 PM  
I can understand why Nintendo would like the name Wii for it's Japanese customers. It's not a particularly ridiculous word for the Japanese, though I'm not aware if it has any actual meaning in Japanese.

I hope Nintendo of America fixes this and renames it the Revolution. I thought that was a pretty good name. I would actually tell people "yeah, I'm playing my revolution." I will not, on the other hand, tell anyone, ever, that I am "playing my Wii." I'll say "I'm playing nintendo" instead.

Maybe that's what they want...it could all be an elaborate plot to bring back their original branding.

I kind of understand why they wanted to change the name. Revolution was a good name, but it wasn't a great name. It was fairly average and flat...but it would have done the trick. Giving the system a ridiculous name generates buzz, stimulates media hype and gets info out there about the system. I don't buy this crap about the "global marketing scheme" presented by this new name. They knew it wouldn't go over well and would get their names in the paper.

Question is whether they will then admit it was stupid and change it back. I'm holding out hope that E3 will see the north american release changed back to "Revolution" or something not quite as lame as Wii. They can save face by keeping Wii as their Japanese release title. I can't speak for what Europe might prefer.
 
2006-04-27 06:28:13 PM  
But, yeah, I can see this as a marketing disaster equivalent to the one Ford suffered when they tried to sell their "Nova" in Mexico... No va? Idiots.

spread urban myths much?

http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp

so.. you were saying.. as marketing disasters go????....

nova != no va much the same way hotdog != hot dog (warm pooch)
 
2006-04-27 06:28:20 PM  
 
2006-04-27 06:31:09 PM  
Epyn: Oh yea...
"Red Steel exclusivly for the Wii".


HAHAHAHAHHA
 
2006-04-27 06:31:09 PM  
Felgraf: Nintendo has a history of taking risks and innovating. Sometimes it doesn't pay off, sometimes it revolutionizes the industry. We need companies like nintendo: Otherwise, the industry will grow stagnant, stale, and repetitive.

I have no idea what you are talking about game creators are innovative and full of ideas:

images.ea.com
images.ea.com
www.fingerhut.com
www.areashop.de
 
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