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(hammeroftruth.com)   Libertarian Party nominee Loretta Nall is the only candidate for governor in Alabama who publicly admits she does not wear panties. She is also the founder of the U.S. Marijuana Party   ( hammeroftruth.com) divider line
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2006-04-26 07:11:07 AM  
Alabama?
 
2006-04-26 07:20:30 AM  
I read the panty story and it was amazing! I love this chick.

She doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of ever holding elected office which is a pity. She'd be awesome.

/Would vote for the lady without panties anyday!
 
2006-04-26 07:27:07 AM  
...and this is why libertarians rarely get into positions above the county level.

as a party, they don't field politicians for political office. yah, it'd be great if that was considered a good thing, but when it comes down to it...it doesn't win elections.
 
2006-04-26 07:36:33 AM  
heap is right....damn him, but he is right.
 
2006-04-26 07:43:34 AM  
i'd vote for her on the strength of that headline alone!
 
2006-04-26 07:45:50 AM  
We all whine about a common sense party, then ridicule the only one we have.
 
2006-04-26 07:49:05 AM  
heap: ...and this is why libertarians rarely get into positions above the county level.

No I imagine people not knowing the libertarian party exists and the republicans and democrats immorally enforcing their position through gerry mandering and other exclusionary tactics has more to do with it.
 
2006-04-26 07:49:30 AM  
Libertarians have a lot of good ideas but even more insane ones. OTOH, I'd vote for a dope smoking-pantyless female governor any day!
 
2006-04-26 07:52:40 AM  
"Now that you and the rest of Alabama have been introduced to the twins perhaps you would like to meet the rest of me. I'll don my burka so y'all won't be offended and then perhaps we can discuss the other planks in my platform since you only covered one."

I'm in love
 
2006-04-26 07:58:58 AM  
Gothnet - Libertarians have a lot of good ideas but even more insane ones.

That's the double-edged sword of personal freedom, but I'd vote for someone like her over the anti-privacy, power/control freaks that usually seek office every time.
 
2006-04-26 08:02:37 AM  
Great Caesar's Toast: No I imagine people not knowing the libertarian party exists and the republicans and democrats immorally enforcing their position through gerry mandering and other exclusionary tactics has more to do with it.

having worked within the libertarian party at a local level, and having seen the outright goofballs at a national convention....no, really. it's the unpolished presentation that ends up shooting the ideology in the foot before anybody even hears it.

i aint saying election reform (especially at the federal/presidential level, w/ regard to primaries and funding) wouldn't help a hell of a lot, but...the percieved nutbags aren't helping either.

i once saw a speech at a national convention (00) containing a lot of elements i agreed with in both the fiscal and social elements - an ideological roundup of ideas and concepts very elequently put, and succinct enough that it might have actually made an impression on those that would have heard it - but it was given by a man wearing a tu-tu. a pink tu-tu. damned if i remember his name, or what he was running for, but of anything available...that's one of the better summary examples of the parties problems at the national level that i can think of.

people *want* to vote for a car salesman. give them one, and put the ugly freaks behind the scenes telling the salesman what to do, fer chrissakes.
 
2006-04-26 08:13:56 AM  
heap: people *want* to vote for a car salesman. give them one, and put the ugly freaks behind the scenes telling the salesman what to do, fer chrissakes.

It's like you thinking having your candidate known only for not wearing panties is a bad thing...

// that's crazy talk
 
2006-04-26 08:15:23 AM  
PottyMcNugg: We all whine about a common sense party, then ridicule the only one we have.

Just because they're different doesn't mean they're not whackjobs
 
2006-04-26 08:17:40 AM  
KyngNothing: It's like you thinking having your candidate known only for not wearing panties is a bad thing...

crazy, indeed. you'd think fresh air cooch would be a hell of a vote getter, but politics doesn't always make sense.
 
2006-04-26 08:19:41 AM  
*tear of joy*

If only we could take down the authoritarian Republicans and Democrats.
 
2006-04-26 08:24:18 AM  
*slams head against desk* such a *SLAM!* good party *SLAM!* such stupid *SLAM!* people *collopses*
 
2006-04-26 08:26:42 AM  
heap: having worked within the libertarian party at a local level, and having seen the outright goofballs at a national convention....no, really. it's the unpolished presentation that ends up shooting the ideology in the foot before anybody even hears it.

True. I mean, I'll take the Libs over the Dems or the current Reps any day, but why the hell are they opening speeches with drug legalization now, when there are so many other relevant topics to hit. Shiat, if I were directing policy, I'd make sure every candidate started with, "Unlike the Dems and Reps, our party vehemently opposes the Patriot Act, and would never support a candidate who voted for it."
 
2006-04-26 08:34:10 AM  
sloth_dc

well...that's the problem with putting the people that actually believe in their ideology out front to sell the ideology - they want it all, no matter if taking a stance on a potentially trivial item shoots them in the foot politically.

at the county level, this works great - the people voting have likely never heard any of the candidates speak or actually seen them beyond the picture in the local paper. name recognition and party affiliation can carry a lotta weight there. i've seen a locally well recognized last name and advertising that pounded this home put ideological zealots in local office on several occasion. at a national level, it isn't a matter of what that person can do - or even what their espoused ideological boundaries are, it's a matter of how that person is percieved.

at a party level, they don't field candidates. they accept them as they stroll in. this is great for the folks behind the scenes, but it just doesn't work for actually getting people to pull the lever for you.
 
2006-04-26 08:37:19 AM  
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With all due respect to her and what she's trying to accomplish, I want to mate with her. What. A. Cutie.
 
2006-04-26 08:52:49 AM  
KyngNothing
Just because they're different doesn't mean they're not whackjobs

I'm not sure what to think about this lady. She hasn't earned my vote yet (not that I vote in Alabama anyway), but she doesn't strike me as off her rocker or anything either. A little naivity in a governor might be a good thing.

/just bitter about Taft
//most corrupt state government evar
///not really but its quite bad
 
2006-04-26 08:57:19 AM  
I would vote for her before any republican.
 
2006-04-26 09:06:34 AM  
Theobold Holsopple

Damn. She looks rather young. How old is she, in her early 30's?
/Beats the hell out of the old guy with one foot in grave look that you normally see in governers
 
2006-04-26 09:13:35 AM  
God Bless America!
 
2006-04-26 09:13:53 AM  
"people *want* to vote for a car salesman. give them one, and put the ugly freaks behind the scenes telling the salesman what to do, fer chrissakes."

Hey, it worked for Dubya...
 
2006-04-26 09:18:41 AM  
Theobold Holsopple: With all due respect to her and what she's trying to accomplish, I want to mate with her. What. A. Cutie.

Huh? She'd devour you with her huge face.
 
2006-04-26 09:20:27 AM  
/just bitter about Taft

If you're talking about Bob, I'm with you.

But the candidates coming up, limp noodles both. If there was a libertarian candidate, I'd be voting for them.
 
2006-04-26 09:21:13 AM  
Kurmudgeon: Hey, it worked for Dubya...

there really is no better example.

i seriously doubt anyone w/ more than two brain cells to rub together is under the impression this man is making policy or setting ideological boundaries as they apply w/in the governmental office he occupies. he's the salesman.

the fact that libertarians don't groom/seek politicians for office is an absolute point in their favor in my book, but it's also the reason they'll be an 'also-ran' so long as they do it.

they need to swallow some shiatburger, go buy a clinton/bush clone and win a governorship.
 
2006-04-26 09:21:55 AM  
LyleDAL: I read the panty story and it was amazing! I love this chick.

And her mother doesn't wear them either. Now that's hot more than I ever wanted to know.
 
2006-04-26 09:24:32 AM  
I'd stump it.
 
2006-04-26 09:28:26 AM  
Nevermind, we do, and he doesn't sound like a nutbag.

But they're not talking about him in the press.
 
2006-04-26 09:31:37 AM  
secretagentwang

She'd devour you with her huge face.

And you can bet your bippy I'd enthusiastically reciprocate. It's what any gentleman would do.
 
2006-04-26 09:54:36 AM  
she's also a retard
 
2006-04-26 09:59:27 AM  
I'd vote it!
 
2006-04-26 10:31:05 AM  
A Libertarian is a republican that wants to be an anarchist
 
2006-04-26 10:47:06 AM  
At least she's hotter than Mary Carey.
 
2006-04-26 10:56:44 AM  
vote libertarian... when u really want to fark the world up
 
2006-04-26 11:30:23 AM  
This is why you never win elections, Libertarians, despite the fact that you have an ideology that is most closely aligned with the sentiments of the people of America.

STOP RUNNING NUT JOBS FOR OFFICE. Put on a suit, take a shower, brush your hair and maybe the world will take you seriously. Quit picking Unabomber wannabes as your figureheads. You might go places.
 
2006-04-26 12:01:13 PM  
If the Libertarians want people to notice them in 2008 they'll convince Ventura to run.
Seriously.
 
2006-04-26 12:25:26 PM  
Theobold Holsopple: What. A. Cutie.


hurr hurr stampa stampa....
 
2006-04-26 12:28:14 PM  
Harry Pooter

On some issues like drug legalization, they are closely aligned with the sentiments of the people. On some they are way to the right. They want to abolish Social Security, get rid of Public Education, scrap the Environmental Protection Agency, etc. In short turn the country over to the rich for rape and plunder and the elderly eat cat food in freezing tenements. No thanks.
 
2006-04-26 12:32:39 PM  
to show a vote, all members rise!

/the vote carries.

// all rise for the governor...

/// Finally a Governor Alabama can be proud to stand behind.
 
2006-04-26 12:47:09 PM  
FreudulentSplit
If you're talking about Bob, I'm with you.

That's the one!

But the candidates coming up, limp noodles both. If there was a libertarian candidate, I'd be voting for them.

The hilarious thing is watching the Columbus Dispatch cover this election as if it were a competition solely between the two Republican candidates.
 
2006-04-26 12:59:38 PM  
Void Where Prohibited:

On some issues like drug legalization, they are closely aligned with the sentiments of the people. On some they are way to the right. They want to abolish Social Security, get rid of Public Education, scrap the Environmental Protection Agency, etc. In short turn the country over to the rich for rape and plunder and the elderly eat cat food in freezing tenements. No thanks.

Not true. Turn the country back over to the people...let the people be responsible for their own lives. None of these socialist policies have worked.

Social Security-A disaster. A pyramid scheme.
Public Education? Look at how the country has performed since the federal government got involved. It's a state-community issue.
EPA-Not for outlawing the EPA and environmental rules. But since the U.S. government is the largest polluter in the nation, shrinking the size of government would be a good thing.
 
2006-04-26 01:00:52 PM  
Rev. Skarekroe:

If the Libertarians want people to notice them in 2008 they'll convince Ventura to run.
Seriously.


I've been saying that for a couple of years. He's got the name recognition and he speaks common sense. He's the best chance they have...
 
2006-04-26 01:07:10 PM  
The first thing the libertarians need to due is boot all the extremists out of the party. Get rid of all the psuedo-anarchists, the militant atheists, and wannabe intellectuals.

Then the half dozen or so that are left need to find someone who's actually presentable and can speak in public with out sounding like a farking nut job and run him for office in a state other than Alaska.
 
2006-04-26 01:24:32 PM  
"2006-04-26 12:59:38 PM slayer199

Void Where Prohibited:

On some issues like drug legalization, they are closely aligned with the sentiments of the people. On some they are way to the right. They want to abolish Social Security, get rid of Public Education, scrap the Environmental Protection Agency, etc. In short turn the country over to the rich for rape and plunder and the elderly eat cat food in freezing tenements. No thanks.

Not true. Turn the country back over to the people...let the people be responsible for their own lives. None of these socialist policies have worked.

Social Security-A disaster. A pyramid scheme.
Public Education? Look at how the country has performed since the federal government got involved. It's a state-community issue.
EPA-Not for outlawing the EPA and environmental rules. But since the U.S. government is the largest polluter in the nation, shrinking the size of government would be a good thing."

Most people would disagree with you. I would say 90% of the population is in favor of government run education, and an equal number is in favor of Social Security. 90% of the population is also in favor of things like the government funding road construction and parks and libraries and a bunch of other things that Libertarians are against.

I am a Libertarian Democrat. I am in favor of public schools, enviromental laws, a minimum wage, safety rules for the workplace and for items sold to the public (such as motor vehicles), government built and maintained roads, public transportation, and military defense (as opposed to military offense, which is what we have now-I would shrink the size of the military by a whole lot). I am also in favor of socialized/government run medicine and a signficant safety net (welfare, unemployment insurance, etc.). I am also in favor of a reasonable level of taxation to pay for all this, with the rich paying a higher percentage of thier income than the poor. These are all Democratic ideas, some very liberal Democratic ideas, or even Socialist (although Socialism implies public ownership of major industries, which I would be against).

Other than the above paragraph, and preventing people from hurting or killing other or taking other people's stuff and punishing those who break these laws, the government should stay out of people's lives. Regulation for regulation's sake, or to favor one company or industry or group over another, or to ban things for "moral" reasons, are all horrible ideas. So is having an activist foreign policy (I'm in favor of an isolationist one, with a military large enough to prevent invasion of the US's territory and no larger). We certainly should have no permanent foreign military bases anywhere. These are Libertarian ideas.
 
2006-04-26 01:26:25 PM  
A Libertarian is a republican that wants to be an anarchist

And I'll ask: What's wrong with that?

What's wrong with letting people defend themselves?
What's wrong with letting people do what they want, as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else?
What's wrong with wanting to limit government so that people can go home with over half their pay?
 
2006-04-26 01:29:34 PM  
"2006-04-26 12:01:13 PM Rev. Skarekroe

If the Libertarians want people to notice them in 2008 they'll convince Ventura to run.
Seriously."

This would be a very good idea. Unfortuantly, they are extremists, in that they have some set ideas on an unreasonably small size of government, and probably won't let people who 90% agree with them (such as Ventura) be nominated.
 
2006-04-26 01:31:26 PM  
Slayer199

Public Education? Look at how the country has performed since the federal government got involved. It's a state-community issue.

So are you against Public Education, or just against Federal involvement? You seem to be allowing yourself some wiggle-room by talking about "state-community". The official LP position is the complete separation of education and State. Get your position straight.


EPA-Not for outlawing the EPA and environmental rules. But since the U.S. government is the largest polluter in the nation, shrinking the size of government would be a good thing.


Link to a source?? By the way, are you advocating that we should reduce pollution according to its total contribution? By that logic, since vehicles produce about half of all air pollution, we should mandate a reduction in the number of vehicles, right?
 
2006-04-26 01:35:22 PM  
2006-04-26 01:31:26 PM Void Where Prohibited

Exactly. Those extremist positions are the reasons the Libertarians will never have a chance. They don't seem to actually care about moderating thier positions somewhat to allow them to be elected. So they whine from the sidelines like dumbasses.
 
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