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2006-04-24 02:30:40 PM
The Icelander

Since when is it acceptable to be an asshat? Since when is it okay to ignore someone who's being an asshat?


It isn't. I'm trying, but you're making it difficult by being an asshat. Get over yourself and your outrage.
 
2006-04-24 02:31:13 PM
I know everyone else has already said this

but I'll repeat

this is a repeat

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1928917
(pops)
 
2006-04-24 02:32:35 PM
this is a repeat
 
2006-04-24 02:33:18 PM
Hey, I've seen this before. I think this is a repeat.
 
2006-04-24 02:34:14 PM
2006-04-24 02:06:15 PM NormallyTechnos

The Icelander: So because these asshats think I should hear their music or their stupid loud car, I should change my behavior.

"Learned ones avoid the people who are stupid because they know their efforts will be futile." (with apologies for murdering the Rig Veda)

As much as I think it would be amusing to watch someone try, it's not going to happen. You're not very likely to win many converts among the people who piss you off by biatching about it.

So, you can either continue to be annoyed by it, or change your own behavior.


Nice response. "I'm going to piss you off...repeatedly...so you need to go away now because I won't stop." I used to live across the street in Tampa from a guy who shared that same outlook on life.

He was doing some kind of work on his Camaro that had an outrageously loud stereo and had same cranked up with the doors open while he worked. It could wake the dead and the "music" he was playing was basically profanity with a deep bass beat. Prick went inside the house to have lunch and left the damned thing on.

I'm working on my computer inside when I happen to look up to see my neighbor from 2 doors down the street walk over to this guy's car and place his hand on it. A loud bang ensued, the stereo went quiet and the aforementioned neighbor continued to walk down the street.

Prick comes back out a few moments later and fiddles with the stereo and never was able to get it to come back on.

Wasn't until 3-4 days later that I happened to run into the neighbor and asked what he did. Seems he borrowed his wife's stun gun and touched the prongs to the aerial on the Camaro. Said he always wondered what 50,000 volts would do to a stereo.

Don't know how true it is but I do know it was very loud, followed by brief momentary pop and then extended quiet...

...and justice...sweet justice.
 
2006-04-24 02:35:28 PM
REPIZZETE!
 
2006-04-24 02:40:43 PM
AMurderOfLawyersInOvercoats: I hate to say it, but I actually had fun at a drag strip in Ohio. In the middle of nowehere, Ohio, they have a 30,000 person arena. I'm not entirely sure why, but the jet cars were loud, but not too bad. On the other hand, you could actually feel the funny cars. They seemed just about as loud as the jet cars, but you could also feel it deep inside your ears. Perhaps something to do with sound frequency or something like that.
 
2006-04-24 02:41:32 PM
Civil_War2_Time

Re: your NHRA post. No shiat man. I went to Joliet IL to see The Route 66 Nationals several years ago. It was loud enough to blur my vision. Nothing like it before or since. Of course I can't hear as well since.
 
2006-04-24 02:54:26 PM
Just so its stated explicitly:

The link is farked.

/constant 0Hz tone
 
2006-04-24 02:54:46 PM
You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your 180 horsepower motor. Where can you go from there? Where?
 
2006-04-24 02:56:25 PM

StinkyFiddlewinks-

Um, it's from the '50's. 331 cu.in., not a big block, and lasts forever(industrial engine, built to operate in a preset RPM range). Your 4-banger, in your car, won't.

 
2006-04-24 02:56:53 PM
Hotblack Desiato and DISASTER AREA are unimpressed
 
2006-04-24 02:58:41 PM
Civil_War2_Time

My 6 year old said the Top Fuels were so loud "it shook his hair".

/don't worry. He had big ole ear muff hearing protection. He loved them so much he wore them all the way home in the car.
 
2006-04-24 02:59:13 PM
TimBilly

This thread is a repeat.

 
2006-04-24 03:00:29 PM
KevinOfOz: I hate to say it, but I actually had fun at a drag strip in Ohio.

I'm sure you did, Cletus.
 
2006-04-24 03:04:01 PM
craig328 - fabulous! now, i need to figure out how to attach one to the front of my car and be able to shoot it at other cars.
 
2006-04-24 03:07:12 PM
To all of those bashing meshman's notion of the decibel scale - You should recheck your definitions. Though an increase of 11db means more than a 10x increase in power, the perception of increase in volume is linear. For example: 110dB would take 10x the power to produce (using the same sound source) than 100 dB, but the perceived increase in volume is a mere 10%. So he is in fact correct that 11dB is no big deal from a listener's point of view. The whole reason we use the decibel scale is to provide a linear measurement that coincides with what we hear... not how much power we are using.
 
2006-04-24 03:07:14 PM
2006-04-24 03:04:01 PM musicmanboston [TotalFark]

craig328 - fabulous! now, i need to figure out how to attach one to the front of my car and be able to shoot it at other cars.



LOL! I can't tell you how many times I've had that same thought. Perhaps something like the cops have...those taser guns that shoot the needles hooked to the receiver with a pair of charged wires...instead of the needles you use a more powerful version of the flexy fridge magnets...

...ah yes, we could build it and call it the "A-Hole-No-Mo-inator"...or something catchy. :D
 
2006-04-24 03:10:36 PM
AMurderOfLawyersInOvercoats - Nice generalizations re: NHRA fans, touchhole.

A good portion of the crew chiefs and car builders running in the nitro classes hold an engineering or a chemistry degree. Go find something else to make vague comments about.

submitter - three months ago called, and they want their story back, please. Thanks.
 
2006-04-24 03:12:16 PM
This one goes to eleven...
 
2006-04-24 03:13:18 PM
The Icelander: Force is the only thing that these folks recognize. So force is the only route to change their behavior.

"The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations."

It's rude not to tip your waiter. It isn't, however, illegal. While morally acceptable for him to go key your car while you're in the can, if you catch him, he will probably be getting off work early for a ride in the back of a police car. That's destruction of property.

So really? What exactly are you going to do to stop the legion of kids with loud stereos or rusted out exhaust? Are you going to carry around bottle of Karo and a funnel just so you can follow them home and kill their cars? Or are you advocating force because you haven't tried to tell the fellow with a teardrop tattooed on his cheek that he's playing heavy-metal too loud and to please stop?

craig328: Nice response. "I'm going to piss you off...repeatedly...so you need to go away now because I won't stop." I used to live across the street in Tampa from a guy who shared that same outlook on life.

No, you missed the point. The point was more along the lines of "Stupid people are the least likely to take any useful advice. So either deal with the fact there are stupid people and take steps which ensure they don't annoy you, (like my weak comedic attempt at suggesting earplugs) or stop protesting."

Things like loud stereos, guys waking you up by burning their tires in front of your house at 3am can be dealt with suprisingly effectivly by calling a cop.
 
2006-04-24 03:16:22 PM
Farked?

/could just be my firewall
 
2006-04-24 03:18:10 PM
SoberIRL: As a studio guy, I'd very much like a sample of this, though most mics couldn't handle the load, and I can only imagine what sound pressure levels that things produces.

I imagine it produces 138db.

If you really were a studio guy, you'd know that 138db IS a measure of sound pressure.
 
2006-04-24 03:19:14 PM
KevinOfOz: AMurderOfLawyersInOvercoats: I hate to say it, but I actually had fun at a drag strip in Ohio. In the middle of nowehere, Ohio, they have a 30,000 person arena. I'm not entirely sure why, but the jet cars were loud, but not too bad. On the other hand, you could actually feel the funny cars. They seemed just about as loud as the jet cars, but you could also feel it deep inside your ears. Perhaps something to do with sound frequency or something like that.

I won a couple of tickets to a "fastest street rod" contest a few years ago at that strip. Had a great time. Sub 8 second Nova won. Nothing else came close to touching it.
 
2006-04-24 03:25:47 PM
2006-04-24 03:13:18 PM NormallyTechnos

The Icelander: Force is the only thing that these folks recognize. So force is the only route to change their behavior.

"The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations."

It's rude not to tip your waiter. It isn't, however, illegal. While morally acceptable for him to go key your car while you're in the can, if you catch him, he will probably be getting off work early for a ride in the back of a police car. That's destruction of property.

So really? What exactly are you going to do to stop the legion of kids with loud stereos or rusted out exhaust? Are you going to carry around bottle of Karo and a funnel just so you can follow them home and kill their cars? Or are you advocating force because you haven't tried to tell the fellow with a teardrop tattooed on his cheek that he's playing heavy-metal too loud and to please stop?

craig328: Nice response. "I'm going to piss you off...repeatedly...so you need to go away now because I won't stop." I used to live across the street in Tampa from a guy who shared that same outlook on life.

No, you missed the point. The point was more along the lines of "Stupid people are the least likely to take any useful advice. So either deal with the fact there are stupid people and take steps which ensure they don't annoy you, (like my weak comedic attempt at suggesting earplugs) or stop protesting."

Things like loud stereos, guys waking you up by burning their tires in front of your house at 3am can be dealt with suprisingly effectivly by calling a cop.



Keying someone's car is morally acceptable? If that was in conjunction with the not tipping the waiter thing you might want to check back in with reality from time to time. A tip is just that...a gratuity in recognition of good service. Keying someone's car in response to not receiving a tip (either because the service they provided sucked or because the tipper had no additional funds to tip with) is wrong and can't be justified morally or any other way.

I won't speak for anyone else here but to my mind the issue is one of courtesy to other people. The Golden Rule has been jettisoned by the current and prior generation and the degeneration of society is one of the effects of it.

Yes, I can "call a cop" but the entire point is, why should I have to have someone whose authority exceeds mine only because they carry a gun and is perceived to have been granted allowances for it's use to show up to encourage someone else to act decently?
 
2006-04-24 03:29:00 PM
Hm... Why all the hate toward the stereo people? One guy claims his freind hits 150, and so he's called...
- an idiot
- unworthy of reproduction
- a liar
- etc.

??

Seriously, it's not that hard. I've done 140 with relatively cheap equipment (sub $1000). 150's happen on conservative mics in the competition circuit, from amatuers, countless times per weekend. 160's are much more rare, but they happen too. I haven't kept up in the past few years, but at that time people were edging on 170's.
Doesn't make anyone stupid. It's a competitive environment, everyone's trying to one-up each other. I would bet 90% of them are never listened to at anywhere close to that level.

Oh, and here's the interesting part:

The people that hit those high SPL levels are NOT the ones you hear annoying people driving down the street. THOSE wanks probably couldn't hit 130, for the most part. Anyone serious enough to really set a system up properly, tune it to be competitive, spend the time with it, usually has the intelligence and respect for others to NOT kill their own hearing actually listening to 130+ db's during regular driving, NOT annoy the pe-oss out of everyone in a mile radius, and ***NOT*** broadcast the location of thousands of dollars in stereo equipment to every thief anywhere nearby.

So don't insult the intelligent competitors who actually set up some cool stuff. Insult the morons with a few subs and a few hundred watts that want everyone within 10 miles to hear their rattle-trap 87 cutlass belt out vulgarities and flatulant-sounding imitations of music. idiots...
 
2006-04-24 03:33:30 PM
Oh, but yeah - 150db at 60hz in a confined (and complimentary to that frequency) space actually is quite a bit less impressive than 138 at higher frequencies and at some distance, in open air... crazy stuff!!!
 
2006-04-24 03:36:38 PM
The planet will asplode at 200db.
 
2006-04-24 03:38:07 PM
Let me just be the first to say: I think I've read this somewhere before.
 
2006-04-24 03:49:35 PM
defiancecp

Well said. (Golf clapping)
 
2006-04-24 03:51:01 PM
Maybe... Next time maybe I'll skip the spelling errors, though :)

wtf are 'amatuers'?? :P
 
2006-04-24 04:15:55 PM
Icelander
"That thing got a hemi?
Then whoever owns it must be a selfish, childish prick who has issues with their self-worth."

Yeah, because nobody could need the power for say...hauling construction equipment, landscape equipment, construction debris, concrete, pavers, ect.

I think you are the one with issues. Get off your high horse bud...not everybody pushes pencils around a desk all day and drives a hybrid.
 
2006-04-24 04:17:01 PM
Nigel: listen... you can hear the sustain....

...."ahhhh-u-ahhhhhhh"


Reiner: but it isn't playing

Nigel: ... but if it were playin, you could hear it
 
2006-04-24 04:22:18 PM
The first thing I thought of when I saw that was Depeche Mode's "Music for the Masses" album cover.
 
2006-04-24 04:34:52 PM
craig328

Yes, I can "call a cop" but the entire point is, why should I have to have someone whose authority exceeds mine only because they carry a gun and is perceived to have been granted allowances for it's use to show up to encourage someone else to act decently?

Because it usually works?
 
2006-04-24 04:39:25 PM
wookie1: How are you only getting 180HP out of a Hemi? It should be at least double that.

Um... 1950s hemi.

And everyone making comments about having it in your car... It's larger than your car. RTFA.
 
2006-04-24 04:45:53 PM
This reminds me of the movie cliche where somebody yells really loud and the camera cuts to farther and farther locations where you can hear it. The Alps, Tahiti, outer space...

Ha-ha, I crack myself up.
 
2006-04-24 04:46:12 PM
The Icelander

In "Tipping Point," I read a story where a woman was raped and murdered while there were 28 people who heard her screams. Each person said they "didn't want to get involved"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Genovese\

The lady's name was Kitty Genovese, and the story was by in large bullshiat.

Besides that, kill yourself. You'll be much happier.

/hates biatchy "kill em all" people the way you hate loud cars
 
2006-04-24 04:49:18 PM
www.srl.org

Here's a picture of the Survival Research Labs shockwave cannon. Click pic for more.

Someone give me a free TotalFark membership.
 
2006-04-24 04:51:45 PM
Man, does that bring back memories. Growing up on base in the 50s and 60s, they used to test those things on the first of every month. It's an impressive sound and carries forever.

I keep reading how everyone in the 50s was sitting around all a-feared about nuclear war and such. My main memory is the guys in my class trying to mimic the sound of the siren and pissing off Miss Clayton.
 
2006-04-24 05:01:09 PM
Strami

To all of those bashing meshman's notion of the decibel scale - You should recheck your definitions. Though an increase of 11db means more than a 10x increase in power, the perception of increase in volume is linear. For example: 110dB would take 10x the power to produce (using the same sound source) than 100 dB, but the perceived increase in volume is a mere 10%.

Your explanation is also incorrect. A 10dB increase is perceived as a doubling in loudness.

From wikipedia (because it's handy):

"A 3 dB increase in the level of continuous noise doubles the sound power, however experimentation has determined that the response of the human ear results in a perceived doubling of loudness for approximately every 10 dB increase."
 
2006-04-24 05:26:28 PM
ersh

Sorry, but the brown note thing got busted on Mythbusters a while back.

Normally Technos

In most (if not all) of the places where I have lived, wearing earplugs while driving is illegal. It reduces your ability to hear sirens (the police car/fire truck variety).
 
2006-04-24 05:31:07 PM
Not only is the story a repeat, but most of the comments are, too.
 
2006-04-24 05:49:50 PM
StrikitRich: Not only is the story a repeat, but most of the comments are, too.

Yeah, but at least we got a brushfire with Icelander going nuts. That was cool.

It makes me feel good to think that there's a guy out there who has a psychotic issue with some random noise level that only he knows about, who feels like it's okay to harm people who unknowingly go over his arbitrary level.

Hopefully he gets back on his meds soon.
 
2006-04-24 06:01:49 PM
but but but... those V8 are 390 horsepower!
says so on TV!
 
2006-04-24 06:07:38 PM
180hp is 130,000 watts...

all sorts of strange BS listing in this page...

180hp is also 259kN of force, which would cause this to slide across the ground... gets weirder... stay tuned


oh, and we've seen this link seven times now.
 
2006-04-24 07:28:51 PM
Yeah, lots of crap on this page.

My car stereo years back in my Buick produced 142 db. with 2400 watts of power and 2 x 15" subs.

Phoenix Gold, the ultimate noice production equipment.

145db would be equivalent to standing next to the space shuttle on take off.

The change in 1db is significant.
 
2006-04-24 07:30:51 PM
Meh. 100HP electric horns are common on large oil tankers, at least thats what Mr. Kahlenberg told me.
 
2006-04-24 07:39:52 PM
I know, right now, where one of these are, still on the pole. Yes, exactly like this one. My old boss was who pointed it out to me, standing outside a building we were working at, one morning having coffee. He just recently retired and had grew up with them in the fifties and sixties.
 
2006-04-24 08:25:36 PM
Well, I want one.
 
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