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(SanDiegoUnionTribune)   Still no explanation for the April 4th boom heard in San Diego. Or the one in Mississippi on the 7th. Or the one in Maine two months ago. Tinfoil, anyone?   (signonsandiego.com) divider line 146
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2006-04-24 11:12:42 AM
Aurora. Well, not really - I think Aurora no longer exists - but the modern equivalent of Aurora. It's flown over where I live as well, several times. Always too high to get more than a two pixel blob on a photo, even with a 200mm lens. It crosses from horizon to horizon in about 20 seconds and the contrail dissapates in about three seconds. It does some kind of multiple sonic boom but I can never count how many there are, it's so fast. Flies over every few months.

Gotta get a longer lens...
 
2006-04-24 11:13:04 AM
muninsfire: Was your event in the morning?


I believe so because I seem to remember it didn't make sense to hear noise like that early on. There are traffic back ups by me late in the afternoon (used to be - now it's almost constant) - so I thought something blew up on the highway (like a tanker truck overturned and exploded). But there was no smoke, and my husband didn't see or hear of anything blowing up (he works like 7 miles away).
 
2006-04-24 11:19:27 AM
faethe

Interesting...were there any especially bad thunderstorms that afternoon or whatnot?

/Oh, and by the way, next D&D game's scheduled for Thursday, if you wanted to sit in. Ambush by hobgoblins in a swampy area.
 
2006-04-24 11:27:07 AM
muninsfire: /Oh, and by the way, next D&D game's scheduled for Thursday, if you wanted to sit in. Ambush by hobgoblins in a swampy area.


send me some mail - Okey dokey - I am supposed to get a 3.5 character together for a local game I have going on too - so meh. Gues I have to learn 3.5 :)

Interesting...were there any especially bad thunderstorms that afternoon or whatnot?

Not that I remember, but like I said - that's a daily thing for sure.
 
2006-04-24 11:29:16 AM
If it takes three days to get from San Diego to Mississippi, then I'm not impressed.

/yes, I realize separate incidents
//trying to be clever...honest.
 
2006-04-24 11:32:21 AM
I don't understand why the air force plays dumb. Just tell everyone "Yeah, we were doing some training with M-16's and had one of them go supersonic. Its part of normal testing and training." and everyone will go away. Even if that's not what you are doing, it gives everyone a very plausible explanation and everyone quickly forgets about it. By telling everyone you have no idea what it is, it just gets that much more attention thrown their way.
 
2006-04-24 11:33:09 AM
I remember when that happened.
Me and my ma were all like..
..'Earthquake?'
'Earthquake?'..
..'Earthquake?'
It was deffinatley a shaker.
 
2006-04-24 11:33:35 AM
The noise you hear is the sound of freedom
i21.photobucket.com
Return to your normally scheduled existence, citizen.
 
2006-04-24 11:34:41 AM
U see, God sometimes overindulges on pistachios, which causes his colon to distend, which causes him to release sporadic pockets of boom!
 
2006-04-24 11:34:53 AM
Unless I'm missing something, events seem to be occurring all in coastal states, too... don't see any examples from mid-continent...
 
2006-04-24 11:36:58 AM
faethe: send me some mail - Okey dokey - I am supposed to get a 3.5 character together for a local game I have going on too - so meh. Gues I have to learn 3.5 :)

What's your email?

FunkyColdMedinosaur: If it takes three days to get from San Diego to Mississippi, then I'm not impressed.

Hey, there you go--it's a time machine!
 
2006-04-24 11:40:39 AM
amindtat: Boom! Here comes the Boom!
Ready or not, here comes the boys from the South
Boom! Here comes the Boom!
Ready or not, How you like me now?


Now I must go old school on ya..

Boom sha lock lock boom, all right now
Boom sha lock lock boom, a little louder
Boom sha lock lock boom, everybody
Boom sha lock lock boom, all right now

Breaker, breaker, here comes the caper
Straight with the taper, the lyric skyscraper
Hit ya like a lyrical murderer
I know ya think I have, but yo, I never heard of ya
 
2006-04-24 11:51:00 AM
It's a DeLorean with a hover conversion.
 
2006-04-24 12:15:44 PM
I hear booms all the time here in Nashville. It used to freak me out, until I realized it was just blasting for highway construction.
 
2006-04-24 12:15:55 PM
Howie_Feltersnatch: H.A.A.R.P.?


N.O.P.E.

rdu_voyager: /The real meaning of "Don't ask, don't tell."

Heh. Someone told me something like that once when I was 'overly curious' about something NOMDB.

"Did I volunteer any information on that?"
"No, sir"
"Well, that's the true definition of DADT, if I don't tell, you don't ask"
 
2006-04-24 12:23:35 PM
I'm still going with a sonic boom, probably from a very high flying aircraft. The SR-71 is technichly "retired" but I found two parked on the ramp at Edwards Air Force Base on Google Earth. Also I bet there is a plane out there that replaced the SR-71 - which was designed in the 60's.

I put this in the same category as all the "UFO" Alien "chain of pearls" lights that were seen from Vegas a few years ago. Turned out to be flares dropped from a C-130 for the illumination of night maneuvers in the desert. Or the reports of UFOs around Groom Lake, probably just new aircraft.

When we were testing the P-80 (first US jet fighter) the pilot got dressed up in a gorilla suit and found other planes to fly with just so he could freak out the pilots. Because everyone KNEW that a plane had to have a propeller, any other form of mysterious propulsion was "other worldly."
 
2006-04-24 12:34:23 PM
img503.imageshack.us
/perp?
//imageshack loved me long time
///slashy
 
2006-04-24 12:36:53 PM
jonathanpatt: It does some kind of multiple sonic boom but I can never count how many there are, it's so fast. Flies over every few months.


Congrats, you saw something real.

/you're hearing one of the engines
 
2006-04-24 12:52:26 PM
i blame bush
 
2006-04-24 12:52:52 PM
from a WECT.com article about the one in Wilmington:

One theory is a natural phenomena called Seneca Guns. It's never been fully explained but people along the coast have talked about it for centuries. Some say the sound originates when chunks of the continental shelf drop into the Atlantic Ocean.

link to full article
 
2006-04-24 12:53:38 PM
I heard it. It was a sonic boom.
 
2006-04-24 12:54:33 PM
I heard this while driving on I-15 in Rancho Bernardo, and it was not a sonic boom. At first I thought something had hit my car, but since a bunch of other cars hit their brakes in front of me I figured it must have been an earthquake if everyone heard it. (It didn't really sound like something hitting a car, but since the car shook too, it was just an instinctual reaction.)

Once I checked the USGS web site, my next guess was that it was Doc Brown & his Delorean, but the sound was heard by people over about a 40 mile range. Plus, it wasn't three booms.

There are two large Marine bases in the area, plus a bunch of Naval stations. There's a number for MCAS Miramar that residents nearby can call with noise complaints, but they've always sounded somewhat honest about loud noises they make. They call it artillery or live fire training usually.

I have no idea what I heard, but it wasn't like any earthquake or sonic boom I've heard before.
 
2006-04-24 12:58:33 PM
Anyone else in San Diego or elsewhere have the same experience?:

I'm in Mira Mesa, all of 3 miles or so from the base. Ever since the boom I haven't noticed it, but for a while there it seemed like every night I was up around 2-4 am and listening I'd hear what sounded like a large plane a few miles away, though there was absolutely no difference in the intensity of the noise from start to finish, once over 5 minutes. And then, as abruptly as it would start, it would STOP. Sometimes it would start up again, sometimes no. My husband's a Marine and can't give me a good explanation. Idears?
 
2006-04-24 12:59:03 PM
If a plane had been traveling over San Diego County at supersonic speeds, the Federal Aviation Administration would have picked it up on radar, said Cheryl Jones, the FAA's San Diego-based liaison to the Marine Corps.

Naive, much? Does anyone honestly believe the fastest plane on earth (supposedly the SR-71) was designed in 1961? The US has the best-funded military on earth and they haven't upgraded since the Kennedy administration? I think even my grandpa even got rid of his Studabaker in the late 80's.

/also, quotation marks are obsolete in these dangerous times of rogue booms.
 
2006-04-24 01:00:32 PM
I was in Clairemont Mesa. You could actually feel the differential in air pressure and it made the front door rattle like someone was yanking on the handle. I've heard lots of sonic booms and I know what they feel like.

About every month something similar happens, however, the one on the 4th was the strongest. This has been on the news before here, this is the first time the national press picked it up.

I would guess aircraft are being tested out to sea (permissible past the 30 mile limit), and depending on the atmospherics can be felt in varying degrees.
 
2006-04-24 01:00:49 PM
jimbo44311: If a plane had been traveling over San Diego County at supersonic speeds, the Federal Aviation Administration would have picked it up on radar, said Cheryl Jones, the FAA's San Diego-based liaison to the Marine Corps.

Not all that likely, actually, these days--they're replacing the old radar sets all over the place with a different kind, that only really looks at transponders. More efficient, but if someone's not got a working transponder [ or has turned it off.... ] then you won't see 'em on radar.

/They're doing that at the airport my dad works at.
//He thinks it's not a good idea.
///Can't watch the trucks on the interstate anymore.
 
2006-04-24 01:02:35 PM
punkybrew82
Those are rebuilt engines being flogged at MCAS. Sometimes five nights a week. For some reason they test them in the middle of the night. I'm not kidding.
 
2006-04-24 01:06:38 PM
robogun : "flogged"? I may be married to a Marine, but I'm a civilian here...
 
2006-04-24 01:07:40 PM
I know who it was...


Maverick: Requesting permission for flyby.

Air Boss Johnson: That's a negative ghostrider, the pattern is full.



WHOOOOSH!
 
2006-04-24 01:08:53 PM
robogun: punkybrew82
Those are rebuilt engines being flogged at MCAS. Sometimes five nights a week. For some reason they test them in the middle of the night. I'm not kidding.


There was a segment on one of the local news stations about this a few weeks ago. I thought they had some waiver to the city's noise rules so they basically can do whatever they want.
 
2006-04-24 01:10:57 PM
davidphogan
heard this while driving on I-15 in Rancho Bernardo, and it was not a sonic boom. At first I thought something had hit my car, but since a bunch of other cars hit their brakes in front of me I figured it must have been an earthquake if everyone heard it. (It didn't really sound like something hitting a car, but since the car shook too, it was just an instinctual reaction.)


If there were a directed sound wave of some sort, which wouldn't surprise me at all coming from a military base, it would produce the effect you describe. There is a new weapon that is being tested that directs sound waves at enemy combatants, knocking them over so that they're unable to fight. It is non-lethal but effective. Possibly you stumbled across some testing of this technology, though you will never get the military to confirm this. They just deny and leave everyone to wonder.

My good friend is an electrical engineer who buys military surplus. He has a great deal of knowledge about electronics and a fair working knowledge of weapons. Not only does he tell me there are many things going on that would curl all our hair, he has visited military bases that he later learned to do not appear on any maps. We were looking at an underground bunker for sale in a western state. He had gone to a military base there and was searching for it on the map. He checked three maps -- no base is recorded. One he visited appears to be tiny, but the grunts who were assigned to accompany him told him that the base was all "under these mountains around us."

So if the military won't acknowledge that they have secret bases in the U.S., do you think they're going to tell us about weapons testing or even accidental explosions or crashes they caused? Not likely.
 
2006-04-24 01:24:07 PM
munisfire, that was i quote from the article. i was making fun of how naive it was. i agree w/ you
 
2006-04-24 01:24:51 PM
My theories:
1) Shock waves from the bursting housing bubble
2) Mexicans + TNT = "build a wall, it won't matter"
3) Some bizarre effect of global warming
 
2006-04-24 01:25:13 PM
Plotted here:

img212.imageshack.us

Nothing jumps out, though there are three distinct locations.
 
2006-04-24 01:28:21 PM
ChrisPC: I hear booms all the time here in Nashville. It used to freak me out, until I realized it was just blasting for highway construction.

You are probably the closest. More than likley, it was a bunch of Combat Eng's playing with cratering charges. And they went over the allowed amount per shoot. The concussion wave can travel upwards for several thousand feet then move hortizontialy for a couple of miles before coming back down to the ground, totally avoiding the space in between.
/not that I would know anything thing about this sort of thing
 
2006-04-24 01:29:38 PM
joshanorton

Judging from the clustering on that map, I'm going to guess this is a Navy project.

Other SD Farkers/-ettes: did you notice the firefighter training they've had at Miramar over the last week or so in the morning? They keep lighting one of the jets on fire just south of the main runways.
 
2006-04-24 01:32:05 PM
2006-04-24 01:28:21 PM mr lawson


ChrisPC: I hear booms all the time here in Nashville. It used to freak me out, until I realized it was just blasting for highway construction.
-.-.--.-.--.-
You are probably the closest. More than likley, it was a bunch of Combat Eng's playing with cratering charges. And they went over the allowed amount per shoot. The concussion wave can travel upwards for several thousand feet then move hortizontialy for a couple of miles before coming back down to the ground, totally avoiding the space in between.
/not that I would know anything thing about this sort of thing


If that was the case, the seismographs at Caltech would have picked it up. This is something happening in the air, not blasting the ground.
 
2006-04-24 01:33:57 PM
something similar happened in central florida in the late 90's. we were used to the double sonic booms of the space shuttle and that wasn't it. earthquake was ruled out. local media speculated on "military research" or an underground sink hole. the incident was only about 1 second. it was a single boom. the ground moved exactly like an elevator suddently starting down then stopping. almost like a quick bounce. NASA and all the other usual suspects denied any experiments. i like the theory of the underground sink hole.
 
2006-04-24 01:38:40 PM
I grew up in the Antelope Valley, California, before the noise ordinances went into effect. We got plenty of sonic booms and some of them would rattle your front door, all right. Boom-BOOM!! (rattle rattle). I used to run out of math class on Tuesdays when the SR-71 would fly over Quartz Hill High School with its little T-38 chaseplane. Nothing else made a sound like the SR-71.

In my opinion this was a sonic boom. Many F.A.A. radars do indeed look for transponders, not planes, and a sonic boom is the simplest answer. Sonic Weapon? They wouldn't test that right next to a city. They'd do it way out in the boonies -- there are lots of bases in California and Nevada that would do.
 
2006-04-24 01:40:01 PM
HickPrincess: So if the military won't acknowledge that they have secret bases in the U.S., do you think they're going to tell us about weapons testing or even accidental explosions or crashes they caused? Not likely.


They can't fly experimental aircraft over population centers. There was a test question on the LSAT a few years ago (no, I do NOT have my JD) that went into this - about who is liable for damages if an experimental aircraft crashes in a population center (as in, does the pilot have liability, does the goverment, does the state?). There's varying degrees of 'experimental' - and it's my understanding that they go through various stages of clearence, which determines where they can fly, and not. The reason for this, in most cases (obviously) is safety, and second, contamination. Some of the shiat flying around has weird stuff in it (I guess) and if it gets loose in the wrong environment it can cause a lot of damage (hence Orlando going spazz over plutonium fired sattelites being launched from the Cape, etc.). The sonic boom thing, too. It's my understanding that military aircraft that produce those mega ass knarly booms are NOT supposed to fly over urban areas, cause that messes stuff up for domestic air traffic, your house, etc etc. I'm thinking it's not because it's secret, although for sure that might have something to do with it. It's a liability/safety issue that gets haggled between states and the Federal goverment.

At any rate, whatever the fark it is, it's annoying, and I wish to hell they would NOT do it where a lot of people live. The shiat someone posted above about a boom causing everyone to slam on their brakes on a highway is a great analogy. I can image what would happen if that went down on I-4 in Orlando at rish hour.
 
2006-04-24 01:44:21 PM
Bonzo_1116: Judging from the clustering on that map, I'm going to guess this is a Navy project.


Central Command is like 80 miles away from me, too. I have no idea on earth what weirdness goes on in there. I do know there is a naval base over on that coast by Gulf Breeze. Gulf Breeze is known for a plague of UFO's that follow people around. I shiat you not - no one knows what the hell these things are, but they stop, blink flashy lights at you, follow you down the road, then leave. Lots of color pictures (mabye one of you all could google Gulf Breeze and see what I mean?). It got to be such a serious pain in the ass that Gulf Breeze confronted the Naval Base about it, who naturally said they have no idea what the fark it is. The UFO's were bothering people on the beach too. OK - like I am positive it's not a little green dude in an extraterrestrial Sea-doo or something, but whatever it is DOES apparently annoy the shiat out of people.
 
2006-04-24 01:50:16 PM
Right you are, faethe. They aren't supposed to fly over population centers, but they certainly fly near them. Besides, to whom are they accountable? Is the governor of Illinois going to look up from his desk full of bribes money from shady state contractors friends to call the White House or Pentagon to complain about noisy experimental aircraft? I kinda doubt it. I know such laws do exist, but the enforcement may well fall into a real gray area.

The big gossip was that TWA flight 800 was blown up by some idiot Army kid with a heat-seeking missile and the military/government didn't want to admit it. I don't really know, and I am most certainly not the type of person who believes most conspiracy theories, but I believe we are often kept in the dark. Maybe it's best that way. I like to sleep nights.

As far as sonic booms, I got so used to them I never looked up. My city friends would come to the boonies to visit and think it was World War III, which was fun. And if we had an occasional boomer and were told what they were, the next time fighter jets have to scramble to intercept something, people like my neighbors wouldn't be wetting their pants and thinking it was the end of the world.


/good luck on getting your JD
//LSAT scares me!!!
 
2006-04-24 01:50:42 PM
What is described in the article sounds like a sonic boom to me. I grew up in the Air Force (dad was a pilot) and have heard/experienced them numerous times.

Also, the correlation of these "mysterious noises" always happening on a clear day makes sense - because no one is going to fly that fast in bad weather, thus no sonic booms in bad weather. I doubt the AF would even let them. It doubly makes sense if they are testing new aircraft, because why would they bother flying test crafts in bad weather?
 
2006-04-24 01:51:34 PM
The booms are the result of the Flying Spaghetti Monster hiding fossils to trick the non-believers into believing that evolution baloney. There is bound to be a little noise when his noodly appendage is rearranging the Earth's crust.
 
2006-04-24 01:52:52 PM
Hrmm. Based on the clustering [ Anyone else find it odd it's all below a certain latitude? ] the next ones will probably be in the LA area.

.....sweet, I live in LA county.
 
2006-04-24 01:53:05 PM
my dynamics professor was talking about how dense fluids and non dense fluids forcefully kept in a high entropy state can achieve equilibrium quite violently. Perhpas this was the case with the air?
 
2006-04-24 01:53:31 PM
"The earth actually moved," she said. "You could feel it. If it moved my bed, it moved the earth."

I believe a certain Ms. Judi Mitchell, Lakeside hospital worker, accidentally let slip a few of the more intimate details of our rendezvous the previous evening. And they say a lady never tells.

/and a tip of the hat to you as well, M'lady.
 
2006-04-24 01:57:28 PM
I think I remember that one in Pensacola in 2003. I was in class when it happened, shook the whole building. But of course, didn't think too much of it because NAS isn't too far away from the University. When you live near bases, you tend to ignore most loud noises like that.

Another time I heard a loud bang when I was driving. I thought my tire had popped, but when I pulled over, nothing was wrong. Turned out that day was when Eglin AFB was testing a MOAB.
 
2006-04-24 01:58:18 PM
Have I just not paid any attention to local news this month? I live in the state capital and I didn't hear anything about a mystery sonic boom? It's not like there's anything else going on here in Mississippi to knock if off the front page......
 
2006-04-24 01:58:48 PM
muninsfire
Louisiana has a lot of military installations

/just messin' with ya
 
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