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(ABC 5 Boston)   Woman claims she was helping teens by offering them a safe place to drink   ( divider line
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2006-04-22 09:35:19 PM  
There is one of these moms at every high school.
2006-04-22 10:08:57 PM  
the 'cool' mom
only 'cool' if you think underage drinking's cool!

/i do
2006-04-22 10:09:08 PM  
Why did I know she'd be fat? Why does the news always have you click 'enlarge' on pictures of fat women?

2006-04-22 10:09:55 PM  
/i do
2006-04-22 10:10:08 PM  
Absolutely ridiculous... this deserves the HERO tag.
2006-04-22 10:10:16 PM  
screw the dumbass tag. the hero tag definitely applies better...she's supervising so the kids don't do anything dumb.
2006-04-22 10:10:33 PM  
i do the same thing. only i'm in college. and so is everyone else who comes here.
2006-04-22 10:10:48 PM  
cadz86 beat me to it
2006-04-22 10:11:27 PM  
Like a modern day Mother Teresa.
2006-04-22 10:12:36 PM  
Actually she is helping the teens.

WOuld you rather have the teens driving drunk or sleeping it off at a house?
2006-04-22 10:13:32 PM  
notmyrealemail: There is one of these moms at every high school.


/hello Mrs. Charles
//thanks again
2006-04-22 10:16:03 PM  
hero indeed.
2006-04-22 10:16:20 PM  

"Gilford Police said nearly 24 minors showed up at Sue Hanlon's home."

So not only is she hosting a party, but I assume she was ok with buying enough booze for 24 kids. She would've gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those, er, meddling kids.

2006-04-22 10:17:25 PM  
Hanlon, 40, argued that teens will drink no matter what so she can't see why they she shouldn't provide them with a safe place to do it.

There was always that one cool mom with whom one could smoke pot, play spades, drink or fark. Fun times.
2006-04-22 10:19:54 PM  
submitter: Woman claims she was helping teens by offering them a safe place to drink and an uncomfortable place to have sex
2006-04-22 10:20:19 PM  
Good for her; our kids are getting stupid. I'm sorry, but if by the time one is a teenager (presumably in high school) one cannot make a simple decision about one's own state of mind, then one should perhaps think of reincarnating within another species on the next go around.
People who do the things that that lady did provide an environment of controlled exploration. Our society is particularly paternalistic. European countries have far fewer drunk driving incidents - granted this is not the only factor, but the paternalism does play a part.

If we treat people like adults then they will grow up to be adults. If we treat them like children, they will grow up to be children.
2006-04-22 10:20:39 PM  
Our "cool mom" back in the day had lost 3 loved ones in seperate drunk driving accidents. She kept the keys, we brought sleeping bags, girls took cabs or had rides home arranged. People will shake their heads and say it's irresponsible, but without Mrs. Coop we still would've been drinking somewhere and driving home at the end of the night. BTW, her son is now in his last 6 weeks of med school.
Many 15-18 year old high school kids drink. Get over it.
2006-04-22 10:25:53 PM  
Damn, Mindy Cohn has really let herself go.
2006-04-22 10:26:56 PM  
Some women always rationalize their deeds.

It's why they think they never do wrong or lie.
2006-04-22 10:27:11 PM  
"Good for her;"

/I didn't mean good for her getting busted
//wish i had had a cool mom in high school
2006-04-22 10:30:30 PM  
I think half the problem the other side (notice that means I'm all for a safe place to drink) has is that it encourages under age drinking by essentially giving a veil where their parents may not find out and possibly providing them with alcohol, as well as a role model. Admittedly anyone underage who hasn't drank and has actually wanted to is a loser since it is incredibly easy, so I'd feel the effect of encouragement, oppurtunity, and resources is rather slim, I can almost see where others may be coming from.

Not to mention it is illegal, should be 18, not 16 though, one responsibility at a time when they can be done together.

I just don't think that drinking of that age would go up too much in reality, sure it would be documented more, but the fact is, most people 18-20 don't have much in the way of cash, they'll buy a load of watered down crap.
2006-04-22 10:30:51 PM  
My stepdad used to do the same thing before he married my mom. Everyone turns in their car keys, we get wasted, he goes somewhere else... but knew exactly what went on. I'm going to have to agree with what this mom did... even though I wouldn't do it myself.
2006-04-22 10:31:58 PM  
I second the "HERO" tag. Being shy, I would have never touched a woman's breast, or licked a pussy if not for the "cool mom".
2006-04-22 10:35:14 PM  
Only thing is it was safe for the teens, but after the cops showed up, sounds like it wasn't exactly safe for her.

2006-04-22 10:37:32 PM  
Frankly, a decently well-planned "safe house" situation which people can crash at or get a ride home from is a far better situation than a bunch of kids out in the woods starting bonfires with no access to first aid or emergency services should something bad happen, who will likely be driving home afterwards due to fear over being caught by the "authorities" and punished.

But the fact of the matter is, punishment does not decrease the number of incidents - because punishment can be avoided. It instead motivates greater secrecy and a more-antagonistic perception of general society, leaving the people who want to do something simply by their own choices having to "fight" with the authorities simply to do so.
2006-04-22 10:39:56 PM  
People wonder what's wrong with kids these days. It's lame-ass parents like this one.

The fact that she allowed kids to use alcohol in her home was tantamount to buying it for them and watching them drink it. Her behavior sends a message that not only does she expect them to drink, they can always do so at her home, and she's buying. Kids don't need any more 'cool' moms. They need someone who has the farking nerve to say no and not try to be their friend. She's probably also the type of parent whose kids tell her to shut the hell up, which is why I don't teach high school anymore. If they have no respect for parents, they sure as hell aren't going to respect teachers or their future bosses (if they can stay employed).

Hope she enjoys jail. And keep those damned kids off my lawn!

/sounding more and more like a cranky old person every day
2006-04-22 10:40:45 PM  
I think this woman was pretty responsible, it's not like the kids wouldn't have done it somewhere else, and then probably ended up driving drunk. At least she was keeping them off the roads. My mom let me drink in high school, she didn't care, and I never really had a desire to go out and get wasted constantly because alcohol wasn't this big, forbidden mystery. When you put things out in the open and actually TEACH your kids and let them experience things for themselves under your supervision, they will more often than not realize that they don't really want to do those things because there's no rebellion to it. How cool is it to drink with, or in front of, your mom? Some people are too uptight about things, and this is why we have such problems with alcohol, sex and drugs.

On a side note, they raised the legal smoking age in VA to 19. Is anyone else's state doing this, was it a federally mandated thing, or is it just us? Just more stupidity from the idiots who run our governments...thank god I'm 24!

/likes my cigarettes
//I actually HOPE they kill me. Soon.
2006-04-22 10:42:21 PM  
I find it interesting that the places in the world where responsible drinking is encourage from a younger age have the fewest problems with alcohol problem in adults. I think the drinking age should be 16 and they could even throw in the requirement that a parent or guardian is present. It better for kids to learn to binge drink when their parents are around than at college where your best hope is your idiot friends can keep you alive and are smart and sober enough to call 911 if there is a real problem.
2006-04-22 10:42:42 PM  
I'm under the legal drinking age so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...

People are going to drink underage no matter what. So there might as well be a place they can do it safely. Alcohol is easy to get and easy to hide.
2006-04-22 10:47:47 PM  
Aaaahhh, Colleen...
Not only did you clean up the stems and seeds, but you looked oh so hot doing it. I will never forget that thong.
2006-04-22 10:53:02 PM  
HickPrincess: The fact that she allowed kids to use alcohol in her home was tantamount to buying it for them and watching them drink it.

How many people die of alcohol poisoning in a bar, or get seriously injured there?

How many people get injured or die of alcohol poisoning at a party in an unsupervised environment filled with people who know they legally have no responsibility for their actions?

The fact that there was a property owner with legal responsibility there and the experience to know what is too dangerous made the atmosphere a far safer one. Sure, people would be getting drunk there. Who cares? "Drunk" is not a damaging condition until you have an accident, get alcohol poisoning, or drive into a tree. And the presence of a legally-responsible adult almost certainly helped prevent all of those things from happening.

The "all or nothing" attitude people take to alcohol in America is one of the largest contributors to the "alcohol problem" in this country. You're either stone-cold sober or smashed off your tits according to the majority view of society, and so people don't provide an acceptable middle-ground for getting safely under the influence without doing something dangerous or stupid.

You know what my friends do when drunk? Tell stupid jokes and watch bad movies for the inherent comedy factor of ridiculous plotting, or just stand around conversing. That's because we're not retarded. So not everyone needs to be treated as if they are going to start fights, rip holes in the walls, or set fires once drunk.

Treat people with some modicum of respect and expected responsibility, and you'll enable people to enjoy themselves while significantly reducing the chance of danger to everyone involved.
2006-04-22 11:04:24 PM  
VARoyalty, are you farking serious? I moved to MD in 2002 and was sad I was leaving a relatively hands-off state for one where the state government just isn't happy unless they're regulating the hell out of every single thing. Looks like I left just before VA started sucking -- first the anti-gay law and now that... Wasn't it pretty recently that VA limited cigarettes to 16 in the first place?

Meanwhile in MD I can't carry a gun, but I don't have to pay property taxes on my car or get it inspected annually any more (which I wouldn't mind actually -- some of the cars driving around Baltimore are visibly unsafe and a truck belched flames on the street in front of me a couple months ago), and they've been e-filing state taxes for years here.
2006-04-22 11:06:17 PM  
so ~3 or 4 people saying she should be in jail and the rest saying she deserves the hero tag.

/wait until they find out she's been sleeping with a 16 or 17 year old guy
2006-04-22 11:06:44 PM  
I'm all for safe places to drink. I especially wish my roommates and their boyfriends had a safe place to drink that wasn't in the hallway outside my room.

/Trapped in her room as you read this for fear of being hit in the face by a rogue beer bottle.
2006-04-22 11:06:46 PM  
Actually this is exactly the same logic as providing teens with abortions and free condoms. And our society seems to have no problem with either of these two things.
2006-04-22 11:07:15 PM  
My mom was the 'cool mom' and because of it I had no interest in drinking in high school.

Now I'm a semi-responsible adult/minor with a security clearance.

It worked out well for me.
2006-04-22 11:11:00 PM  
lol33ta: /Trapped in her room as you read this for fear of being hit in the face by a rogue beer bottle.

The solution is speakers, a maxed out volume knob, and an MP3 of bagpipes, J-pop, or polka. Or J-pop's version of polka featuring a bagpipe solo, if you just hate them all by now.
2006-04-22 11:11:49 PM  
HickPrincess: People wonder what's wrong with kids these days. It's lame-ass parents like this one.

Awwwww... So wrong. So very wrong.
2006-04-22 11:13:02 PM  
Semper Gumby: Now I'm a semi-responsible adult/minor with a security clearance.

What's your sign? Come here often?
2006-04-22 11:13:29 PM  
ThrobblefootSpectre: Actually this is exactly the same logic as providing teens with abortions and free condoms. And our society seems to have no problem with either of these two things.

Not where I live. Here in "sex is the gateway to Satan" Alabama, you have as good a chance of finding either as you would a pharoah's tomb in your backyard.
2006-04-22 11:16:18 PM  

...wait until they find out she's been sleeping with a 16 or 17 year old guy..

I envy them. I never had a chance to sleep with the "cool mom"; she just gave me the encouragement that I needed to ask some goddess to dance with me. I touched her waist, as we moved back and forth to that Sinead O'Conner song "Nothing Compares to You".
2006-04-22 11:16:25 PM  
I didn't know a cool mom, except for Jimmy's who basiclly gave up on her children after one of them burned their house down when she didn't have insurance. She only yelled a few times when the entire house stunk of marijuna. Oh, yeah, there was also the chick whose mom was too out of it from heroin to give a rat's ass what we did.

But here is the point, if I was a teenage boy again, I wouldn't hit it. Well, maybe if she got me drunk I would.
2006-04-22 11:19:40 PM  
Thank God in Australia underage drinking isn't a problem on private property..

My mate had a party last week, got crashed, his mum and a few other people called police. They rocked up, sorted out the troublemakers, called an ambulance for someone who got beaten up, and left. As it should be.
2006-04-22 11:21:12 PM  
She was helping.
2006-04-22 11:27:37 PM  
little_wing: Thank God in Australia underage drinking isn't a problem on private property..

I also like your drug laws. Melbourne is like a cooler Boston.
2006-04-22 11:28:27 PM  
NewportBarGuy: I also like your drug laws. Melbourne is like a cooler Boston.

San Francisco is like a cooler Sydney.
2006-04-22 11:29:13 PM  
Arrests like this piss me off, because of a whole variety of reasons. First of all is the inherent idiocy of telling teenagers it's perfectly OK for them to be called on to get killed by a society that still considers them children, since it won't let them drink. Either raise the draft age to 21 or lower the drinking age to 18.

Second, it means I can't teach my hypothetical future kids about responsible drinking by having a couple of beers with them at home without worrying about cops (who frankly have better things to do) busting down my door. What's next? Will it become illegal to have alcohol in a home with a minor, because it increases the possibility of them drinking illegally? Why am I supposed to care if my 17-year-old kid wants to have a beer while watching football on TV? I'd rather he do something less passive and brain-idle, like have a beer while working on his homework, but if he's not flunking out let him have his football.

Third, as previously pointed out, this woman probably is responsible for at least one real drunk-driving crash not happening -- real, as opposed to a MADD-defined "crash involving alcohol" where a designated driver taking a friend home hit a deer that jumped in front of his car. The menu, which the news article mentions oh-so-breathlessly as though it were obvious evidence of bad intent, probably was aimed more at keeping things sane -- "No, you can't have a Long Island iced tea. Stick to what's on the menu."

Fourth, either this woman is the dumbest person on earth, or she'd be watching those kids like a hawk -- nothing is more likely to lead to massive property damage than unsupervised high-schoolers getting drunk. Personally I'm guessing it would be the latter.

And last, we can all thank AA for the current American dysfunction with regard to drinking. AA's "cold turkey forever, or you're a drunk" approach to alcoholism has been linked to even worse binging behavior in relapsing alcoholics, increased arrest rates, and increased cost of medical care for AA participants. Programs that rely on controlling the amount and frequency rather than putting so much weight on never drinking at all have much better results.
2006-04-22 11:29:50 PM  
little_wing: San Francisco is like a cooler Sydney.

heh... Well played. I was neigh too fond of Sydney.
2006-04-22 11:40:43 PM  
lol33ta, assuming these are college roommates on campus: if they've descended to the bottle-throwing level of asshattery, it really is time to pick up the phone and call campus security. They're a danger to themselves and to random people who may step on glass later. Don't threaten, just do it.

If the campus cops don't get there in 10 minutes, call the local PD. They'll get pissed at the campus cops if they have to come do their jobs (they've probably had to before) and next time the campus cops will be more likely to actually get shiat done.

/wife lived across the hall from annoying drunkass fratboys her last year of college
//called campus safety a dozen times
///fratboys threatened to get tough
////never did shiat though
//pussies always talk big
2006-04-22 11:40:46 PM  
crypt0z0ic: I would have never touched a woman's breast, or licked a pussy if not for the "cool mom".

Whoa... can I meet your mom?
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